Skip to comments.Boeing wins $2bn contract to rewing A-10s
Posted on 07/05/2007 2:40:09 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Boeing has won a $2 billion contract to build new wings for the US Air Force's Fairchild A-10 ground-attack aircraft, after beating rival bids from contractors including Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman.
Announced on 29 June, the deal calls for the delivery of 242 replacement wing kits for installation by the USAF's Ogden Air Logistics Center at Hill AFB, Utah, with the work to extend the life of the A-10 fleet by at least 20 years.
More than 700 A-10s were introduced from 1976 and, despite regular threats of retirement, the type remains one of the air force's most effective close-air support platforms.
Lockheed is performing a wider precision engagement upgrade to the aircraft, and the resulting A-10C configuration will have new avionics equipment and an expanded range of air-to-surface weapons.
Boeing has yet to select its fabrication contractors for the rewinging project, which will begin with an 18-month engineering phase and is scheduled for completion by September 2018.
Boeing Macon will put the wing kits together for installation by the air force depot. The replacement design is based on the "thick" wing fitted to late production examples of the A-10.
Meanwhile, the USAF has awarded Korean Air a contract worth $16 million to continue service-life extension work on its A-10s until 2009. The company has previously modified 180 of the type at its Gimhae facility in South Korea.
Tell his mommy it wasn't worth it...
I am quite familiar with federal contracts.
I responded to the copyright issue.
And to think they were on the chopping block in 1990. Wow
General government contract law - if the Gov pays me to design an airplane, I have commercial rights to the design (I can sell it to US Air, eg, subject to export control), but the government has unlimited use rights for their own purposes - they can hire anyone they want to build copies for government use.
Awesome sites to say the least! Sometimes they even ventured over to the Nevada Test Site for some real fun!
Love the van, Nully...LOL!!
(Is it yours??)
of my best sellers!
Gov’t (AF) owns the drawings so no copyright.
There was some decent video of Warthogs doing a strafing and missile run on the Transformer movie, it was actually a pretty darn good show, I took my 13 year old son to see it yesterday.
My grandfather got a ride in a B-17 a few months before he died. He was one of 4 WWII vets that took the place of men from the original crew who had already passed away.
They took off from Willow Run where the plane was built and flew to Oshkosh. We went and watched them take off. That was one proud bunch of octogenarians.
All the info I am finding online for the A-10 shows an introduction year of 1972, and a first production year of 1975.
Sure you don’t have your years crossed? It HAS been a long time...
Maybe the coolest formation of the day, right over our heads. Clockwise, from the top, the P-51 Mustang, F-15 Eagle, A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog), and the F-22 Raptor.
Notice something interesting about the Warthog. It has a fake cockpit painted on its underbelly to help disguise its orientation.
The only two seater A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog) ever made.
The Canadians do that on their fighters as well.
After 30 or so years in service it’s probably stress cracks & pitting. You either re-wing them or you G-limit them.
Here's to your Grandfather...
If I’m not mistaken, air foil shapes were developed by the NACA, forerunner to NASA. That would make the crossectional shape kinda like ‘Public Domain’ stuff. As to the actual wing design — yeah that probably would be proprietary. Who purchased Fairchild Aircraft’s assets?
“-I remember seeing A-10s returning from runs in Laos when I was stationed in Thailand in 69.-
The first production A-10A was delivered to Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Ariz., in October 1975.
Date Deployed: March 1976”
Perhaps saw A1E Sky Raiders. They were used for close ground support in both Laos and Vietnam back in the early days of the war. As the A-10, it was slow, ugly, difficult to knock out of the sky, and a fying dump truck....
That pic in the midddle shows the A-10 deploying its reverse thruster.
>>Boeing has yet to select its fabrication contractors for the rewinging project, which will begin with an 18-month engineering phase and is scheduled for completion by September 2018.<<
Probably, China will get the contract. They’ll need this technology for their military aircraft.
Good. We were going to lose the whole plane.
Some of their ground crews tend to get upset when A-10 pilots deploy their reverse thruster to slow down near the end of the runway.
I was thinking the same thing.
If you’re driving your Hog onto the runway hot ‘n high, and going long, not to worry. You have your ace in the hole with your solid impulse reverse thruster.
BS. You must have been, or still are, high on Thai Stick if you remember seeing A-10s in '69.
I certainly hope Boeing does a much better job than they did rewinging the A-6.
What’s funny is that P-51 could outrun that A-10.
Alright!!!! This is fantastic!!
The Russians seem to be pretty good at it.
With superior firepower, only if the A-10 wanted it to. The Mustang is one of the most beautiful airplanes ever created...but so is the A-10. How can ANYONE think the A-10 is ugly??? (in my best Steve Irwin) She's a beauty!
Maybe the Air Force holds the design patents....it was built to government spec’s
I think I see your point, but let’s put this in more common terms. Are you saying that if you have a 30 year old Ford Mustang, then only a Ford dealer can work on it? Are you saying that only Ford can sell you parts? If you take it to someone other than Ford, are you in breach of contract or some law because you took your car to someone else? Can you buy aftermarket parts that improve the performance? At what point is it your car and you can do with it what you will?
I am sure they are upgraded wings and you have to do to dodge a design copyright if there really is one is move around a rivet or two.
It still burns me that the Air Force tried to first replace these with F-16s (”A-16’s...what a friggin’ joke), and now with Joint Strike Fighters. The Pentagon certainly has its share of fools.
And I remember just before the Iraq War 1 how these beauties were scheduled to be SCRAPPED in order to save costs for the upcoming more advanced aircrafts.
Now they are the frontline swords as they were destined to be used against the enemies.
Who knew that blasting people as they run around on camelback through the desert was about to become a primary role of the US Air Force?
In any case, the A-10 is suited admirably for the job.
Could be — whatever the contract said.
As a consultant, certain things I produced belonged to my employer, some the customer and some myself.
We are speaking about “Registered Copyrights” here and there is a section on the Form TX, to identify the Copyright Claimants and a section for transfers.
Nice!! The keg-engines are a nice touch, and I’m sure they’re mileage boosters as well!
Unrelated, but still of interest...Why isn't the B-52 getting new engines? Seems to me that they could add range, speed reliability, and payload by converting to four, modern engines.
Yeah the enemy can’t see which side is up. They should paint one on the other end so they can’t see which way it’s going either!
It’s an old Warthog running joke to talk about how slow it is. The pilots who fly them know them all and can tell them the best.
Two jokes that I’ve heard about A-10s:
The A-10’s airspeed indicator is a pocket calendar.
The A-10 takes birdstrikes from the rear.
Of course, that is from F-16 guys whose brethren got their planes chewed to hell trying to fly the A-10’s mission. A few years back, some genius at the Pentagon decided that they could put 30mm gun pods on the F-16 and go hit tanks. It didn’t work worth a crap, the F-16 could not take the hits from ground fire and be survivable.
The Canadaians started that with their F-18s. After someone in the USAF brightened up...we started doing it as well.
And I do not know if it is the same...but I have seen an all black A-10 two seater [test aircraft] with a clear canopy, used to display geared up, precision night attack variant. Dont know whatever came of it though...