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Woman tries to save dying man, but gets stuck with bills
Austin American-Statesman ^ | Monday, July 09, 2007 | Isadora Vail

Posted on 07/09/2007 8:58:19 AM PDT by WestTexasWend

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To: Fawn
I hope that if I ever need assistance such as CPR, that at least some of the bystanders have actually participated in a training course in CPR and remember enough of it to be useful in a crisis. One of the first things you learn in a CPR course (and important to remember) is how to tell what kind of assistance is needed. The ABC's of rendering CPR are as follows:

The first thing to do is to ensure that the Airway is clear.
The second thing to do is to check for Breathing.
The third thing to do is to check Circulation.

You only administer Mouth-to-Mouth if the person is NOT BREATHING. And you only administer chest compressions if there is no blood circulation. If the person is gasping for breath, then the person is still breathing -- though with difficulty. You should try to eliminate or alleviate whatever is causing the difficulty in breathing. To simply try to force more air through an obstructed airway will not help matters and may actually cause more damage.

It doesn't take a doctor to know that. (I'm not one, but I remember enough of the CPR training that I had in middle school and high school over 25 years ago that I would at least know these basics.) If you would not have known the ABC's of CPR as I just explained them and how to apply them in an emergency, then I would recommend that you find a CPR course from your local YMCA or community center and take one ASAP and get your family members to take it along with you.

41 posted on 07/09/2007 10:46:38 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Clam Digger

Well said CD.


42 posted on 07/09/2007 10:47:45 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

How do you check circulation?


43 posted on 07/09/2007 10:59:15 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: VRWCmember

“I called 911 as I was walking up to him, and they walked me through the first steps of CPR and chest compressions,” Lee said.

Early in the story.


44 posted on 07/09/2007 10:59:27 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
It’s basic CPR training -— coughing or making noise — no CPR (other than clearing airway).

Presumably, if a person knows how to do chest compressions, they also remember that.

From the article: "I called 911 as I was walking up to him, and they walked me through the first steps of CPR and chest compressions," Lee said.

So it would seem that she got some bad advice from the 911 operator.

45 posted on 07/09/2007 10:59:56 AM PDT by whd23
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To: webstersII

Check for a pulse.
susie


46 posted on 07/09/2007 11:00:32 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: gridlock

So what is the amswer, decide if it’s better to save a life or is the expense going to be to much?


47 posted on 07/09/2007 11:03:40 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: webstersII
How do you check circulation?

Gently find the carotid artery and lightly press it with your first or first and second fingers to feel for a pulse. You can also try the veins in the wrist, but the carotid artery is much easier to detect a pulse. NEVER use your thumb to try to check for a pulse because you will feel your own pulse rather than that of the victim.

48 posted on 07/09/2007 11:05:53 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
A few years ago I took the CPR class but I knew in my heart that I would not be able to put my mouth on the mouth of a complete stranger who was in distress. I took the class to be able to help my family and friends. I am sure there are those out there who are judging me for that but I just know I couldn’t do it.
49 posted on 07/09/2007 11:06:18 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Old Professer
“I called 911 as I was walking up to him, and they walked me through the first steps of CPR and chest compressions,” Lee said.

And yet she attempted to do mouth-to-mouth breathing on someone who was already gasping for breath. This means that either she completely misunderstood what she was told by the 911 dispatcher or got very bad instructions.

50 posted on 07/09/2007 11:07:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks.


51 posted on 07/09/2007 11:08:51 AM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality!)
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To: Ditter

You’d do it if you had to when the time came. Thanks for taking the course. EVERYONE should know basic first aid and CPR. I cringe when I hear abut people taking a dirt nap because someone was too lazy or ignorant to help them.


52 posted on 07/09/2007 11:11:00 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: gridlock

I hope someone takes your ‘wisdom’ to heart next time you’re lying on the road and need CPR.

Bad woman, didn’t do as you said!


53 posted on 07/09/2007 11:12:41 AM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: gridlock
So, the question becomes, which somebody else has to pay? The local rescue squad? The Mayor's office? The Feds?

The hospitals will. Unpaid medical bills are the single largest reason for bankruptcies.

54 posted on 07/09/2007 11:13:13 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: VRWCmember

Thanks. Poorly formated, though.


55 posted on 07/09/2007 11:13:32 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: flutters
I think Vega's auto insurance should pay for her expenses.

Vega was walking when he got hit by someone driving. Why would his auto insurance pay for something that happened when he was nowhere near his car?
56 posted on 07/09/2007 11:15:02 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: VRWCmember

That’s the part we don’t know.


57 posted on 07/09/2007 11:15:07 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Xenalyte

Maybe his homeowners insurance.


58 posted on 07/09/2007 11:15:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Did she not have insurance? Labs are the place where health insurers cut back alot. I will see a $300 bill for a lab test and the insurer will only pay $22 because that is what is contracted for the test.


59 posted on 07/09/2007 11:15:58 AM PDT by applpie
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To: rljv

She wouldn’t have had medical bills at all if she hadn’t put herself out for some man lying in the road in need of CPR. Shall we create incentives to step over the man and keep walking? This is one case where the state should pay the bill. Yank the cash from some welfare queen if necessary, but no one should step over a dying man just to avoid medical expenses for helping. If you were lying on that road in need of CPR, you’d be the first to change your mind.


60 posted on 07/09/2007 11:17:24 AM PDT by Kitten Festival
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