Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson

ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

[Clara Lou]

just saying
That reminds me of "Thompson is my #2 man [but read this hit piece I found]."

[EternalVigilance]

ROFL...your imagination is fertile, I’ll give you that.

[dynoman]

Jesse Ventura for President!!!!!!

[Clara Lou]

That’s the 3rd time you’ve called me “Mary”—and have avoided answering the question. Are you mentally disabled?

[johnthebaptistmoore]

IMHO, it’s much better to get all of the negative things about Fred Thompson out there right now before Fred even officially enters the ‘08 Presidential race. Everybody will know soon enough either how well or how poorly Fred Thompson will do with his ‘08 Presidential run. There will be many angry and many upset conservatives all over the U.S. if Fred Thompson truly does poorly with his Presidential run. The bar of expectations for Fred Thompson may already be way too high to begin with, and this is what presently concerns me about Fred Thompson.

[Harrius Magnus]

B.S.

who’d you vote for in 2004? Perhaps that President who signed it into law?

[kitkat]

BUMP

[Kimberly GG]

“Do you understand that “some aspirations of citizenship” does not equal “amnesty?””

LOL...*spits coffee on keyboard*...;)

[PlainOleAmerican]

BTW - Bush has a pretty good record in this regard...

1) Weeks after taking office, he passed Connor’s Law which established that it IS a person in that womb, and a double homocide when a pregnant mother is murdered.

2) Outlawed Partial Birth abortion.

3) Appointed judges that upheld the ban on partial birth abortion when it was immediately challenged by the left.

Not bad, while fighting the WOT, saving the economy, lowering unemployment, increasing the standard of living and spending 24/7 defending himself against relentless leftist drivel...

Not so hot in some other area’s, but proved a President can make a difference here.

[L.N. Smithee]

Nobody else in the field is honestly worth discussing, whether we like to hear it or not. Discussing Hunter or Tancredo is like discussing what you’d do if you won the lottery: It’s a lot of fun fantasizing, but it’s just not going to happen.

I still contend that Hunter is either running for the '12 nomination or a VP slot. Not only is he too obscure to emerge from a pack of senators and governors, he's not running like someone who wants to win in '08.

[Graybeard58]

While Fred Thompson may not be the conservative with ideas exactly the same as mine, he has my vote. If I wanted a candidate that thinks exactly as I do, I would have to throw my own hat in the ring and I ain't runnin'.

(Not even if drafted)

[Williams]

Another crock of crap. You are now saying that all conservatives must aim at the federal level to outlaw abortion nationally, and that seeking the overturn of Roe v Wade is not good enough.

You are entitled to your opinion, but the LIE in your post is that Thompson is not a conservative because he doesn't agree with you on this.

Sorry, but it annoys me to see someone creating a litmus test that no one can pass, and using it to claim a very conservative candidate is not a conservative.

[RockinRight]

Make him DHS, VP, or Secretary of Defense.

[wardaddy]

Viguerie’s article is not without merit.

Thompson needs to keep clarifying and defending positions conservatives want to hear or he is another Bush I or II.

I hope to be happy.

Is Viguerie on record for anyone yet?

[familyop]

"Where does he stand on free trade with China?"

He "voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China." I'll post some of the facts again for all readers here (although there's much more out there). My main concern is for our defense (see facts at the bottom of this comment). Iran is building a nuclear arsenal and will proliferate, if we don't stop it.


from Thompson’s voting record on immigration with only two terms in office.
http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TN&VIPID=743

Voted in 1996 to continue chain migration

Voted to strip legal reforms from 1996 bill

Voted in favor of chain migration in 1996

Voted for a foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud measures in 2000.

As Committee member, produced H-1B doubling bill in 1998

Nearly doubled H-1B foreign high-tech workers in 1998

Voted in committee against including worker safeguards in H-1B bill in 1998

Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998

Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998

Voted to grant amnesty to close to one million illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba in 1997

In 1996, removed higher fines for businesses which hire illegal aliens

Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification in 1996

Fred Thompson:
Fred Thompson voted in favor of the "1997 McCain-Feingold overhaul of campaign finance."

Fred Thompson's record on immigration:

* Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998)
* Voted YES on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
* Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)

Duncan Hunter's record on immigration:

* Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
* Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
* Voted NO on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
* Voted NO on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
* Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)

Fred Thompson:

* Voted YES on extending free trade to Andean nations. (May 2002)
* Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001)
* Voted NO on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep 2001)
* Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China. (Sep 2000)
* Voted YES on expanding trade to the third world. (May 2000)
* Voted YES on renewing 'fast track' presidential trade authority. (Nov 1997)
* Voted YES on imposing trade sanctions on Japan for closed market. (May 1995)

Duncan Hunter:

* Voted NO on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade. (Jul 2005)
* Voted YES on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement. (Jul 2004)
* Voted NO on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement. (Jul 2003)
* Voted NO on implementing free trade agreement with Chile. (Jul 2003)
* Voted YES on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
* Voted NO on 'Fast Track' authority for trade agreements. (Sep 1998)
* Rated 24% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record. (Dec 2002)

Fred Thompson:

* Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China. (Sep 2000) [under "Free Trade"]

Duncan Hunter:

* Voted NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000) [under "Foreign Policy]

Fred Thompson is Chairman of Condoleeza Rice’s International Security Advisory Board in the State Dept. (see information below).

Duncan Hunter: Vietnam combat veteran, 173rd Airborne and 75th Army Rangers, Bronze Star, and Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee until the Democrat majority was voted in during the 2006 election. Congressman Hunter continues to work in the Armed Services Committee.

http://www.state.gov/t/isn/isab/

International Security Advisory Board (ISAB)

The Secretary of State’s International Security Advisory Board (formerly called the Arms Control and Nonproliferation Advisory Board (ACNAB)) provides the Department with independent insight and advice on all aspects of arms control, disarmament, international security, and related aspects of public diplomacy. The ISAB is sponsored and overseen by the Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security. The Board provides its recommendations directly to the Secretary of State. The Board currently has 20 members and is chartered to have up to 25. Board members are national security experts with scientific, military, diplomatic, and political backgrounds. The Board meets in a plenary session on a quarterly basis.

Updated: April 19, 2007

http://www.state.gov/t/isn/isab/c17650.htm

Board Members

— Senator Fred Thompson (Chairman)
— Dr. Michael R. Anastasio
— Dr. Kathleen Bailey
— Dr. Ashton B. Carter
— Ms. Alison B. Fortier
— Dr. William Graham
— Amb. Robert Joseph
— Mr. Mitchel B. Kugler
— Dr. Ronald F. Lehman, II
— Vice Admiral Robert R. Monroe, U.S. Navy (Ret.)
— Dr. Gordon C. Oehler
— Dr. Keith B. Payne
— Dr. Robert L. Pfaltzgraff, Jr.
— Senator Charles S. Robb
— Dr. C. Paul Robinson
— Dr. Amy Sands
— Dr. James R. Schlesinger
— Dr. William Schneider, Jr
— Dr. William Van Cleave
— Mr. R. James Woolsey

[PlainOleAmerican]

Familyop is the most famous diehard Hunter fan and Thompson flame thrower at FR.

Nobody here takes him seriously anymore...

He’s been called out so many times that it’s lost its entertainment value.

[donna]

When I call you Mary you answer to it, LOL.

You’re the one who is so angry. Explain yourself.

[brothers4thID]

Well gee whiz, I’m glad you’ve picker your guy.
First, when I said I was responding to inaccurate information I was discussing this thread and the comments made herein, not your post. You came to this thread and directed another poster to your list of supposed willing censors and a cherry picked list of votes.

All of which is within your right, but my pointing out that defaming the character of another candidate’s supporters does nothing to help your chosen candidate does not make me a “hysterical, screaming, entertainment worshiper”. (I believe the shorter way to say that is “fan”.)

I have posted many facts, here and elsewhere, along with my rhetorical ripostes at those who think they can pass off sound bites and half truths.

Enjoy your day.

[KC Burke]

I've read it all. For both parties, they all have problems. I'm going to write you in instead I guess.

Just damn.

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

Don't mistake me. I think Thompson is highly qualified man and I think this is typical of what I would expect.

I also think Duncan Hunter is a highly qualified man and I expect the same types of hit pieces on him.

Duncan Hunter has a military record. It is important to me - thats all.