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Deniers of global warming harm us (Global warming deniers bigger danger than holocaust deniers!!!)
Seattle-PI ^ | 7/10/2006 | Joel Connelly

Posted on 07/11/2007 6:07:51 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican

AS THE WORLD'S scientists near consensus on human causes of climate change, even Exxon is cutting contributions and distancing itself from the global warming denial industry.

The deniers haven't conceded defeat, and lately have found a substitute for the "sound science" they once demanded. Their new tactic is the drive-by shooting.

The objective is distraction, to be achieved by demeaning the oracles, particularly the "Goreacle," of global warming.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; algoreisnotmypope; globalwarming; globalwarmingscare; ivorytower; junkscience; neomccarthyism; orwelliannightmare; thoughtcrime; zogbyism
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
So far, however, change has proceeded at a faster pace than even pessimistic scientists predicted a few years ago.

You often see such flawed "logic" put forward by proponents of the humans-caused-the-global-warming scam, but in fact such observations pull the rug out from under their main argument. They have put all of their faith into dire predictions made by scientists, because the scientists' models and predictions portend a dire future.

When they say that climate change is proceeding even faster than even pessimistic scientists predicted a few years ago, they want us to conclude that therefore the situation should be treated with even more urgency than before.

However, a much more rational and intelligent way to interpret such "even greater than predicted" statements is to realize that they reveal the inconvenient truth that those scientists who made the original predictions have proven beyond a doubt the worthlessness of their own predictive powers.

The essence of real science is observing and analyzing a phenomenon, making hypotheses that may explain why the phenomenon occurs, and then devising tests or experiments that can generate unambiguous evidence that either supports or does not support those hypotheses. If the result of an experiment is "the result was much greater than we predicted", that is not a validation of the prediction. Rather, it is the opposite - it reveals that whatever mechanism may have been driving the results, that mechanism is not at all well understood by the person who made the prediction. It shows that the predictor's model or hypothisis is wrong, not that it is right...

Yet know-nothings like the author of this article would have us take the results of failed predictions as an urgent impetus to immediate action.

51 posted on 07/11/2007 9:00:45 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Carry_Okie

A single kingdom; who will be king?


52 posted on 07/11/2007 9:05:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: concerned about politics

Do they count the temperatures for the fires themselves into their “average” temperature? It wouldn’t surprise me.

Paul


53 posted on 07/11/2007 9:38:27 AM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: finnsheep

Ummmm..... Finn...... I hate to mention this little fact, but Argentina, South Africa and Australia are all in the southern hemisphere, thus it’s winter there.

It’s supposed to be cold in July there.

Paul


54 posted on 07/11/2007 9:40:44 AM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: Old Professer
A single kingdom; who will be king?

It is written, but first we'll get The Prince. ;-)

55 posted on 07/11/2007 11:14:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Issaquahking

You speak the unmitigated TRUTH, oh great King of the Issaquah nation!!!


56 posted on 07/11/2007 11:23:36 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: weegee
"Al Gore’s film is being shown in schools as “required” viewing without rebuttal."

THAT's a VIOLATION of CHURCH & STATE, right THERE!!! (call the cops!!!)

57 posted on 07/11/2007 11:33:16 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: Valin
"throught"

Would you mind defining this strange word for my aging mind??? (grin)

58 posted on 07/11/2007 11:41:50 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Our local deniers need only look around ... at the shrinking South Cascades Glacier and Chikamin Glacier in the Glacier Peak Wilderness, or the rapidly receding glacial tongues of Canada's Columbia Icefield -- a vital water source for the Columbia and other great North American rivers.

Or go to the Begich, Boggs Visitor Center outside of Anchorage, built to give visitors vistas of the Portage Glacier. The glacier has retreated so far that it can no longer be seen.

Funny how they never notice the glaciers that are growing.

Of course, National Geographic says that many glaciers are growing because of global warming.

How conveeeeenient.

59 posted on 07/11/2007 11:55:44 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: SierraWasp

Thanks for coming out Walt! Couldn’t help but take a good shot at those that needed it...and pinging those in the know!


60 posted on 07/11/2007 6:54:20 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Drammach
As a new and radical religion, it's only natural that they brand disbelievers and skeptics as "infidels" or "heretics". They may use different terms, but that's what, in essence, they are doing.

Proud infidel here...

Earth first! We will mine the rest of the planets later...
61 posted on 07/11/2007 7:01:22 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Carry_Okie

“A single kingdom; who will be king?”

My Rusian grandfather said that in the valley of the blind, the one-eyed man was king.


62 posted on 07/11/2007 8:25:58 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Issaquahking

Hello my FRiend,

How have you been treating the world?

Am I the only one who sees a disturbing resemblance between the article author’s picture and Michael Moore? Who would have guessed that Moore had a shaven, evil twin?


63 posted on 07/11/2007 8:29:17 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: SierraWasp

I’m glad you asked. Throught is an ancient Sanskrit word that really doesn’t have any precise precise in english. The closest we can get is the phase...”Use spell check you moron.”

Hope this hepls


64 posted on 07/11/2007 8:31:54 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Beowulf

Check it out.


65 posted on 07/11/2007 8:54:14 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
I can see Connelly hasn't changed a bit since I used to read him for a laugh in my Seattle days. Still a pumped-up little goose-stepper all for diversity as long as it isn't of opinion, and anyone who disagrees with him must either have ulterior motives or simply be eeevil. That, alas, is about the depth of political discourse in that one-party town. A pity, really.

In point of fact the issue is still very much in flux scientifically, which is one reason the eco-zealots are starting to hedge their bets by moving the party line from "global warming" to "climate change." When your Global Warming conference is postponed for snow you end up looking like the idiot you probably are; when you can fall back on "climate change" it tends to help you evade the obvious questions, at least for awhile.

It lasts until somebody has the courage to point out that climates do change; otherwise we'd still be growing wheat in Algeria and wine grapes in England. What is ironic is the plaintive insistence that it is the mean old capitalist KKKorporation Exploiters Of The Earth who are responsible for meddling in matters beyond their understanding; in fact, that very same course of action is precisely what the Greens are pushing. End carbon emission? Good luck with that. And if we could it would do what, precisely? Well, we have a computer model here and a computer model there, which bear approximately the same resemblance to the real world as a Super Mario game does to your morning commute.

What is irritating is not that True Believers such as Connelly have bought into the entire thing - stupidity ought to be painful but it isn't. What is irritating is that he preaches a stifling, politically correct orthodoxy that may not be challenged lest the challenger wind up in the lead role in an auto da fé in the name of the Goddess of Tolerance. It's self-parody, really, the cruelest parody of them all.

66 posted on 07/11/2007 8:54:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: The Electrician

The writer can do that and get accolades from the orthodoxy because this isn’t about science at all...not one bit. It’s about politics.


67 posted on 07/11/2007 8:59:50 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: concerned about politics

well said!


68 posted on 07/11/2007 9:32:33 PM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

we need more facts about this global warming cabal.......Who gets the money and how and from whom?

The liberals are fighting like like death to get global warming done and the loudest screamers are the most crooked so........where is the money ?


69 posted on 07/11/2007 9:44:54 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Valin
"Throught is an ancient Sanskrit word"

Amazing! Why are you changing the subject to something exciting like "Sanskirt?"

70 posted on 07/12/2007 11:16:04 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: Drammach

“Solution:
Eliminate about 4 Billion humans.
I figure we’re all on the list.
Well, except those in the service industries.
Someones got to serve veggie burgers to the elite surviving inheritors of the Earth.”

Here’s a possible solution to several problems:

LIBERALS - THE NEW WHITE MEAT. Perhaps the basis of a new Madison Avenue ad campaign. After all, it’s called Mad Ave for a reason.

Put a bounty on ‘em to encourage sport hunting of Liberals by those who either won’t eat Long Pig or can’t afford the arm length rubber gloves so essential to the dressing and cleaning of one of those things.

;-)


71 posted on 07/12/2007 1:03:49 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru
Not sure about the long pig thing..

However, we could package it and sell it to China as "back bacon"..

72 posted on 07/13/2007 1:37:02 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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