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LA Times Writer: Joining Military Not 'A Well-Informed Choice,' But A 'Product of Manipulation'
NewsBusters.org ^ | 15 July 2007 | Dave Pierre

Posted on 07/15/2007 3:36:47 PM PDT by infoguy

The 21-year-old nephew of Los Angeles Times columnist Steve Lopez has enlisted in the Marines, and Lopez isn't happy about it. "Don't become a pawn, I told my nephew," Lopez writes. His column is, "When the reality of Iraq hits home" (Sun., 7/15/07).

Says Lopez:

Some have argued that without a draft, enlisting in this war is a matter of choice, so what happens, happens.

But that's not necessarily true in the case of National Guard troops who have been called up. And as for soldiers as young as my nephew, I don't see enlistment as a well-informed choice but as a product of manipulation.

Not a "well-informed choice"? A "product of manipulation"? At 21 years old? Am I the only one who think this sounds a tad condescending?

So, why did Lopez's nephew join the Marines? Lopez tells us that he has written from boot camp.

"What I want for my life is to stand above the majority," [the nephew] wrote. "I believe in honor, discipline and courage…. I wish to be bigger than myself, to be a part of something more — something important and significant…. I hope that you will understand my reasons for this decision and will continue to support me."

Lopez has a justified worry that his nephew will be deployed to Iraq. Nearly everyone can sympathize with that anxiety. But Lopez claims that President Bush "misled us from the beginning" and "will keep sacrificing lives in a vain and futile attempt to save face." Bush's campaign has been one of "deceit and simplification," says Steve.

"Misled us"? "Deceit"? Ugh. It seems Lopez has bought into the "Bush lied" canard. Being from Los Angeles, Lopez should be well aware of KABC radio host Larry Elder. Lopez needs to take Elder's "'Bush lied, People Died' Challenge." (Scroll down to the lower left of the home page.) It could be that the nephew knows more about the Iraq war than Lopez does.

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(P.S. - After reading Lopez's column, I thought of this ... Back in 2005, Californians debated Proposition 73, an initiative that would require minor girls to acquire parental notification before getting an abortion. In an October 2005 column (I found it reprinted here), Lopez talked with a group of high school-aged girls, most of whom were against the initiative. One girl even insisted it was "nobody's business" (Lopez's words) if a 13 or 14 year old had an abortion by herself. Despite misinformation and relativism ruling the discussion, Lopez beamed at the end of the column that he had "much respect" for the girls. Lopez wrote that he hoped his own daughter "will be able to handle herself as responsibly as these girls have." It sounds like these teens have earned more respect from him than his own adult nephew.)


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bias; iraq; latimes; liberalmedia; losangelestimes; mediabias; msm
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To: Don Corleone

Yeah, now Stevie Boy needs to let his nephew write the next column, in his own words, with no coloration or dilution from his uncle. Let’s see what the nephew has to say about Bush’s “deceit and simplification,” “bullying,” etc., and why the nephew is so committed to enlisting, despite Little Stevie Slimeball’s protests.


41 posted on 07/15/2007 4:19:53 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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To: infoguy
"What I want for my life is to stand above the majority," [the nephew] wrote. "I believe in honor, discipline and courage…. I wish to be bigger than myself, to be a part of something more — something important and significant….

Wow! Is he Catholic? Would he like to marry my daughter when he gets back from Iraq?

42 posted on 07/15/2007 4:21:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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To: infoguy

He is 21 years and thus by law is an adult, this writer needs to go and do what Dick Cheney suggested to Pat Leahy.


43 posted on 07/15/2007 4:23:41 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: infoguy

Any chance of seeing the MSM plug this argument into the abortion issue? j/k


44 posted on 07/15/2007 4:24:54 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
he should not look down on the rest of us who made different career choices as dishonorable undisciplined cowards

I try not too ...

45 posted on 07/15/2007 4:25:50 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73 ... USS Midway Va-93 Blue Blazers)
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To: infoguy

Steve, I love my aunts and uncles dearly, and they love me dearly as well. But I wouldn’t let them do my thinking for me. Best wishes to you and the kid.


46 posted on 07/15/2007 4:28:02 PM PDT by RichInOC (The Los Angeles Times...where the men are men, and the women used to be. (No! BAD Rich!))
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I turned 18 in 1975 and there was no draft OR selective service registration. I went to register and they said “go home.” I regret not signing up, but there was no mechanism at the time. I could have enlisted out of high school, but I got accepted into college...


47 posted on 07/15/2007 4:29:01 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
not look down on the rest of us who made different career choices

I don't think that's implied, at all. A young adult might easily say something like "stand above the majority" about embarking on any course in life that he feels is demanding and worthwhile: entering medical school, becoming a missionary, being a police officer, for example.

In 20 or 30 years, I think he would agree that, no matter what career a person is in, he's "above the majority" if he consistently lives with "honor, discipline, and courage."

48 posted on 07/15/2007 4:29:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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To: yldstrk
Writers-—get used to it—just because someone made a decision YOU may not agree with does NOT mean they have been manipulated or brain washed. God gave everyone free will.

IMHO The best way to brain wash a liberal is to give him/her an enema.

49 posted on 07/15/2007 4:34:15 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Tax-chick

Steve Lopez: “What I want for my life is to squirm, as all liberals do, far below the majority — but still pontificate to them as if I’m far above. I believe in mud-slinging, easy solutions and cowardice. I wish to be full of myself, to be apart of something important and significant. I hope that you will understand my reasons for this decision and will continue to support me in this endeavor.”


50 posted on 07/15/2007 4:37:54 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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To: infoguy

IMO, this sort of thing has to be pushed by the MSM (of which the LAT is a sad example), since one iron-clad criticism of Cindy Shee Han is that her son enlisted voluntarily. Not once, but twice — both times deployed to Iraq. She maintains he was murdered by his country, but thinking people know; hey, lady. He didn’t see it as the wasteful endeavor you keep saying it is. Obviously!


51 posted on 07/15/2007 4:40:26 PM PDT by lainie
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To: RepublitarianRoger

LOL - very clever!


52 posted on 07/15/2007 4:40:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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To: infoguy

If you are a liberal, your only framework, model, or reference for the military is Vietnam, as the liberals perceived it.

The fact that this condemns them to be a loser in perpetuity is lost upon them.

How sad it must be to go through life never knowing the value of something greater than self, or victory.


53 posted on 07/15/2007 4:44:39 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (The facts of life are conservative -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Congressman Billybob

L.A. Times is in the cr*pper.

Old recycled whiny arguments from LA Times ..The Bush daughters should enlist.” Duh! It’s an all volunteer military.

Lopez is digging for dirt if he has to leave L.A. to find a news story in Hemet. Wonder if he owns a hybrid car?/sarc


54 posted on 07/15/2007 5:00:26 PM PDT by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: infoguy

bump


55 posted on 07/15/2007 5:10:32 PM PDT by lowbridge (If You’re Gonna Burn Our Flag, Wrap Yourself in It First /No Oil for Pacifists)
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions

Joining the military DOES make this kid better than the L.A. Times!


56 posted on 07/15/2007 5:40:44 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: infoguy

69% of Americans have confidence in the military.

22% of Americans have confidence in newspapers, and I expect the LAT is probably lower.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=27946


57 posted on 07/15/2007 5:53:09 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions

My My!


58 posted on 07/15/2007 5:56:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: infoguy
A direct quote from a memo sent out two days ago by the LAT publisher to his troops:

"Revenue was down 10% in the second quarter, and cash flow down a whopping 27%, making it one of the worst quarters ever experienced."

As far as I'm concerned, I hope their columnists become even more stridently left-wing. The more they do, the faster this paper will literally cease to exist.

59 posted on 07/15/2007 6:03:27 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (My voting record: Rudy '89, Rudy '93, Rudy '97, Rudy '08. (Why not piss off BOTH sides?))
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To: infoguy
It sounds like these teens have earned more respect from [Lopez] than his own adult nephew.

You don't understand.

Lopez is a liberal. And, to a liberal, having an abortion is the ultimate joyous expression of faith in the liberal ideal.

Joining the military, on the other hand, is seen as a descent into hell which, of course, is populated exclusively by conservatives.

What perverse people these liberals are...

60 posted on 07/15/2007 6:04:53 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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