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Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier [sic] Politics
Town Hall ^ | 7-20-07 | John Hawkins-Commentary

Posted on 07/19/2007 9:46:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier Politics

By John Hawkins

Friday, July 20, 2007

If you listen to the Democrats, you’ll hear that the war in Iraq was poorly planned and that Bush didn't think far enough ahead about the consequences of our actions in that country. Now that we have the benefit of hindsight, it's hard to argue with that. Bush should have done a better job of planning what came after that first "Mission Accomplished" banner when we'd defeated Saddam's armies in the field, but hadn't ended the resistance.

That being said, it's rather odd to have the very same people who have been bitterly complaining about Bush's poor planning before the war, doing no planning of consequence to deal with their choice to lose the war in Iraq to Al-Qaeda.

Why don't we hear people like John Murtha, James Webb, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi explaining to the American people why we're better off choosing to lose to Al-Qaeda today than continuing on to what may very well be victory next year? Perhaps they don't feel the need since the American people are tired of the war and since MSM outlets like the New York Times, Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times have for all intents and purposes acted like an arm of the Democratic Party when it comes to covering the war.

However, the consequences of cutting and running in Iraq or setting a timeline that pulls our troops out at a certain date would likely be catastrophic.

Consider the Iraqis who risked death to go vote at the polls. Think about the brave Iraqis who are literally fighting shoulder to shoulder with our troops to make their country safe for democracy. What would happen to them if we left before they could defend themselves? They'd likely be butchered by the hundreds of thousands, hung from lampposts, buried alive, and tortured to death in the streets. The level of violence and savagery could and very likely would ramp up to the level of genocide if we were to leave too quickly. Where's the honor and decency in that? How do we abandon millions of our friends and allies to die, perhaps only a few short months before they can defend themselves?

Moreover, how do we explain this to the troops? We sent them into a war zone where more than 3600 of them have been killed and 26,000+ soldiers have been wounded. We've extended their tours of duty, we've kept them away from their families, and we've put them through the ringer. So now, how do we get to a point, mere months from when the Iraqis may be able to handle their own security, months from when victory will likely be possible and say to them, "I know you guys have gone through hell to win this thing over the last 4+ years, but the war is unpopular, an election is right around the corner, and so we're going to have to let Al-Qaeda defeat you for the sake of politics. Hope there aren't any hard feelings after you sacrificed so much and then had a bunch of politicians snatch victory from your grasp at the very last moment just to increase their chances of getting re-elected."

Then there's the possibility that an American withdrawal could lead to a regional war. Now, to many people, that's no big deal. So what if Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria start a proxy war, take shots at each other, or rip off little chunks of Iraq?

Well, for one thing, it could mean that Iraqi oil supplies are cut off and Iranian and Saudi oil supplies are disrupted. That could cause an enormous spike in gas prices that could cost everyone reading this more at the pump and slow down economic growth.

Additionally, it could mean a huge increase in funding, training, and support for terrorist groups that are willing to fight in Iraq. For example, if America runs, but Al-Qaeda doesn't, it would hardly be a surprise if the other nations in the region were more willing to aid Al-Qaeda. The same goes for Iran. If Iran is viewed as having helped to run America out of Iraq, it could lead to more fighting with their neighbors, but it's also possible that some nations in the region would be more willing to defy us and acquiesce to their demands since we would be viewed as weak and lacking willpower. Could we see a much greater role for Hezbollah in Iraq if the U.S. were to flee? Sure. It's not even outside the realm of possibility that we could see these terrorist groups form a "state within a state" inside of Iraq without the U.S. being able to do much about it. Once we pull our troops out, we lose much of our ability to influence events on the ground.

It's also worth noting that if we pull out before the Iraqi government is ready to defend itself, it will be viewed by the world over as an enormous victory for Al-Qaeda over the United States. That will give an enormous bump to their recruiting -- encourage more nations to cooperate with them and less nations to cooperate with us -- and it may very well lead to more attacks in America as Al-Qaeda shifts its primary field of battle from Iraq to the U.S.

Furthermore, have liberals really considered the consequences of having Democrats in Washington decide to lose a war that our generals in Iraq and a significant portion of the American public still believe we can win? Five years down the line, is it really going to be healthy to have a large percentage of the American public believing, with good reason, that the Democratic Party deliberately allowed Al-Qaeda to defeat American troops because it would help the Dems politically? If you think the political atmosphere is poisonous today, just wait until Iraq erupts into genocide and madness, while Al-Qaeda is crowing about their victory over America, and everyone knows that the Democrats made it happen.

Long story short, having the United States lose a winnable war in Iraq would be a disaster all the way around and that's why I would implore Democrats in Congress to put their country ahead of petty political concerns for once, to help avert the disaster they're setting us up for in Iraq.

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Mr. Hawkins is a professional blogger who runs Conservative Grapevine and Right Wing News. He also writes a weekly column for Townhall.com and consults for the Duncan Hunter campaign.

Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.


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1 posted on 07/19/2007 9:46:08 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier Politics

They haven't done this since the 60's. I don't think they'll start now.

2 posted on 07/19/2007 9:50:48 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: smoothsailing

Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Their Politics....Do Snowbirds fly in hell?.....


3 posted on 07/19/2007 9:51:50 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: smoothsailing

Communists (which elected democrats are), cannot put country/patriotism before their god of power.


4 posted on 07/19/2007 9:53:49 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier Politics”

They haven’t and they won’t. The Democrats are working against the American people and must be held to task at the ballot box.


5 posted on 07/19/2007 9:54:07 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: smoothsailing
Thier Politics

Spell check down at Town Hall?

6 posted on 07/19/2007 9:54:24 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: smoothsailing
Drudge says Pelosi is writing a book about herself. Why the devil should we pay this woman a salary if she is writing a book on our time?

No wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket. Our elitist congress is doing everything it can do but doing what’s right for this country

7 posted on 07/19/2007 10:00:17 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: freekitty

They are also making money off our backs. I am really sick of this. Blow these idiots out of office.


8 posted on 07/19/2007 10:01:12 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: smoothsailing
We all know about the Democrats. It is the Republicans (in office) that I worry more about. At least we can count on the Democrats to be what they have been for decades. I can't, any longer, say that about many of the "Republicans". And that is the reason, while they may still get my vote on election day (lessor of two evils in many cases), it certainly hasn't been very enthusiastic!

But I no longer vote so as a registered Republican. Ended that process almost 9 years ago, after 17 election cycles of not only being a card carrying Republican, but donating money to the party and working for various campaigns, as a volunteer.

The Grand Old Party sure ain't what she used to be!

As my dear cousin and friend for life said, and I echo the emotion, "I used to be a conservative. Now I am only voting to preserve our Constitutional Republic not simply conserve it. I am a Preservative!"

But I am not holding my breath in the belief that "We the People" can much longer accomplish the task.

9 posted on 07/19/2007 10:12:30 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: smoothsailing
Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier Politics

A growing number of Democrats increasingly put politics ahead of our country as each year goes by. This process has got to be halted soon or we are lost.

10 posted on 07/19/2007 10:12:40 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: JennysCool
Spell check down at Town Hall?

LOL! I wondered about that too!

FR posting guidelines inform us to use original titles, so what can I say?

11 posted on 07/19/2007 10:12:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: smoothsailing
The RATS don’t know how to put America/Americans first. It doesn’t fit in with their agenda!
12 posted on 07/19/2007 10:14:10 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: ImpBill
Oh , come on, you sound like you're giving up.

Stop it.

This ain't the time to quit.

13 posted on 07/19/2007 10:18:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: freekitty
Drudge says Pelosi is writing a book about herself.

To get her book published, and distributed, she will have to rely on a capitalist, freemarket system.

Imagine that!

Nancy!!! So for you, it's about the bucks? Who knew?


14 posted on 07/19/2007 10:33:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: freekitty

If she’s writing a book she can’t spend that time screwing up the country any more than it is.


15 posted on 07/19/2007 10:50:19 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover; Girlene; lilycicero; All
Jaz, you're a star!

Go here and click on the "dishonest" link!

I'm off, dear freepers. 'Til tomorrow.

16 posted on 07/19/2007 11:13:48 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: smoothsailing

LOL! I’m sure no star, I only posted a thread but it’s neat, Clarice Feldman is one of my favorites.

Talk atcha tomorrow, FRiend.


17 posted on 07/19/2007 11:22:34 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: smoothsailing

bttt


18 posted on 07/19/2007 11:27:05 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." Hold a hearing on that.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Their Politics....

"Sometimes, I sing and dance in my underwear...doesn't make me Madonna, never will." /Joan Cusack, "Working Girl"

19 posted on 07/19/2007 11:28:17 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." Hold a hearing on that.)
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To: smoothsailing

“Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier Politics”

They’re DEMOCRATS for chrissakes...
A huge bloc of uneducated slave voters led by a small group of elitists.


20 posted on 07/19/2007 11:32:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE Democrat! You'll look GREAT in Burqa!)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

So the title of this article and thread were meant to be a joke, right?

Right?


21 posted on 07/19/2007 11:32:27 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: smoothsailing
They don't care. They'd love to escape responsibility for harming their country and saddle the Republicans with the burden of defeat. If the GOP wants to commit political suicide, it should obligingly accommodate the Democrats' aim of putting their political welfare above the Nation's. We should not speak of them as friends but as low born traitors out to bring to shame and wretched misery to the greatest country in the world.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

22 posted on 07/20/2007 12:08:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: smoothsailing
If you listen to the Democrats, you’ll hear that the war in Iraq was poorly planned and that Bush didn't think far enough ahead about the consequences of our actions in that country.

Of course it was poorly planned. Wars aren't usually planned for a contingency where an entire political party commits open treason. The Democrat party had objectives , excluding victory from day one...

23 posted on 07/20/2007 2:44:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: smoothsailing

“Democrats Should Put The Country Ahead of Thier Politics”
and criminals should reform but.......


24 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:31 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The Islamists plan to kill us.The Democrats and the ratmedia are helping them. Ft Dix proves it!)
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To: smoothsailing
Oh, to be sure, I am not giving up!

I still love our country!

I still love our Constitutional Republic and will do all I can do to "preserve it"!

And actually I am not giving up on the Grand Old Party. I gave up on it quite some time ago (see original post)!

Most importantly, I will not give up on God! As I know and have faith, in Him will all things be as they should be.

25 posted on 07/20/2007 10:48:50 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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