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Causes of oversleeping?
Self | 20 July 2007 | tlj18

Posted on 07/20/2007 2:09:28 PM PDT by tlj18

I have a question for you all. I'm kind of curious. I have a tendancy to sleep for very long periods of time when I don't set my alarm or sleep through my alarm. I will almost always sleep for around 12 hours without an alarm. I can get up no problem without the alarm. Normal people might sleep for 8 hours. Two nights ago I slept for about 15 hours, although I was up for 34 hours before that (that has made this whole week hard to keep track of what happened in what day :-) ). Yesterday I was up for 15 hours, then slept for 11 hours. Yeah, 34 hours is a lot, but still that amount of sleep is typical, unfortunately. I have enormous resistance to seek medical help, considering my occupation (Soldier) and my aspirations (U.S. Army Special Forces). I suppose it could be stress-related. I'm somewhat vulnerable to stress, but I will get the mission accomplished, no matter the stress level or other intervening stuff.

Any ideas?


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To: SeanOGuano

See Post 50 for my experience: it wasn’t anything like Walkingfeather, but it wasn’t a day at the beach. Plan to take AT LEAST one week off, two if you can get it (I needed the extra week.) My results were so spectacular though I would go through it again in a heartbeat. If you have very bad apnea, you’re a total zombie. It’s no way to live.


51 posted on 07/20/2007 3:21:59 PM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: justanotherfreeper

Yeah didnt have those kind of symptoms but the doctor said mine was the worst case he had ever seen and wanted to just to a Trach right away. I said forget about that. Still would do the surgery.


52 posted on 07/20/2007 3:23:23 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: justanotherfreeper

That’s good to know. The doctor looked down my throat at my first appointment and told me he didn’t see anything but flesh. He said that a normal throat would have a dark tunnel going down the esophagus.

It’s a good thing my company gives us a PTO day every month. I have 30 racked up so far so I won’t have to use vacation.


53 posted on 07/20/2007 3:26:19 PM PDT by SeanOGuano
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To: Walkingfeather
I tell people if you can get on your roof and attach jumper cables to your tonsils then jump off and then hang there for about 10 days.....

OMG! I could not imagine the pain. Although it does sounds like a good interrogation technique for WOT.

54 posted on 07/20/2007 3:30:58 PM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: SeanOGuano

Judging by the fact your Doc saw flesh, it’s possible that you may succeed with the surgery! But don’t forget that the test results may show the brain function is the KEY....therefore the operation would be moot!


55 posted on 07/20/2007 3:38:50 PM PDT by tajgirvan
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To: Revolting cat!

Billy Idol rocks!


56 posted on 07/20/2007 3:39:26 PM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Duncan Hunter for President 2008)
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To: steveo
“Time enough for sleep in the grave”-Ben Franklin.
57 posted on 07/20/2007 3:40:57 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: SeanOGuano
Check out the mouth guards first, including the new ones referenced in this thread. CPAP should only be for very severe cases.

Also, note that the laser surgery is less traumatic, but is usually not covered by insurance.

58 posted on 07/20/2007 3:50:58 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: LibWhacker

Possible, but I highly doubt it. I also sleep very well when I sleep. I rarely wake up while sleeping.


59 posted on 07/20/2007 4:20:24 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: MEGoody

I think it started around 14, 15 years old - I started sleeping more. And it’s continued. I think it is how my body is wired. Would be nice if there was some way to “re-wire” my brain, though.


60 posted on 07/20/2007 4:25:12 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: tlj18

Two nights ago I slept for about 15 hours, although I was up for 34 hours before

Yesterday I was up for 15 hours, then slept for 11 hours

Those are normal stats to me


61 posted on 07/20/2007 4:29:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: ahayes
Do you feel sleepy during the day and fall asleep very quickly?

Not really. I have to be quite tired to fall asleep quickly. But in Basic Training, I always fell asleep VERY quickly. As in a matter of seconds :-) But let's just say that my MOS is more intellectual than physically oriented, which certainly has its downsides.

62 posted on 07/20/2007 4:32:10 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: Global2010

Yeah, that’s what I do. I don’t set the alarm on Friday nights (my time to sleep). And I usually wake up around noon or later. During the week I would usually sleep around 5-6 hours. Maybe my body is just trying to get more sleep, to get rested. Sleep deprivation does build up. But it is an amazing experience.


63 posted on 07/20/2007 4:36:54 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: boomop1
Are you logged in?

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64 posted on 07/20/2007 4:39:58 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: Bruinator
He’s asleep. lol

Actually, I just woke up :-)

65 posted on 07/20/2007 4:40:28 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: tlj18

I would suggest that you are missing out on *quality* sleep, which your body tries to make up for with quantity.

Here are some ideas that might help:

1) Try sleeping with Breathe Right nasal strips on your nose for a week. You might need more oxygen while sleeping to get to a deeper level of sleep. They may also reduce snoring.

2) Get some “32” or better rated foam earplugs. Extraneous noises might be interfering with your rest.

3) Have a glass of warm milk before bed. Warmed milk has chemicals in it that promote restful sleep.

4) If you regularly snore, you may have sleep Apnea. This can be a dangerous condition and should be treated.

5) Body position while sleeping may matter to you. Become aware of how you sleep, and how restless you are when you sleep.

6) Try varying the temperature of the room you are sleeping in. Warmer or colder may give you better rest.

7) There is an over-the-counter sleep aid called Doxylamine Succinate (25mg) which is the same pill in brand name and generic. It is just the part of antihistamine that makes you drowsy. For some people it can give them a very deep sleep, and they wake up much more rested. Though for the first few uses, you may remain drowsy when you wake up in the morning. It is available in drug and grocery stores.


66 posted on 07/20/2007 4:40:29 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: tlj18

depression.


67 posted on 07/20/2007 4:43:00 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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To: agrace

No, I have healthy blood pressure.


68 posted on 07/20/2007 4:43:29 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: tlj18

I naturally sleep 12 hours a night if not awakened by an alarm.


69 posted on 07/20/2007 4:45:25 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: tlj18

Talk to your GP about getting a sleep study done. The symptoms you describe could be cause by a variety of things. In my case it was a form of parasomnia. As I’d start to drift off, my foot would begin to shake, waking me up. But I wouldn’t feel (/remember) the movement or even that I had fallen asleep. Instead, it felt like I’d just been lying there, waiting (which is why my GP originally diagnosed it simply as insomnia). Periodically throughout the night I’d wake myself up like this. But I wouldn’t remember it. All the interruptions were keeping me from getting rested, which is why I was sleeping so long (10 or 12 hours, easy). Anyway, none of this was evident until I had the study done.


70 posted on 07/20/2007 4:47:42 PM PDT by monkfan
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To: LouAvul
Yeah. I don't think the Special Forces are going to let you sleep 15 hours a day.

Somehow I think you are quite correct... :-)

I can just see it now... doing the land navigation course in SF training... take a nap but wake up 15 hours later...

You are a NO-GO, Soldier!

71 posted on 07/20/2007 4:52:53 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: tlj18

Your REM pattern is messed up. Think back to the last time you had a real dream. There is something that is keeping you “en guard”. I still go through this most nights, but it is getting better. Good Luck!


72 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:22 PM PDT by gaemes
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To: tlj18
Two nights ago I slept for about 15 hours, although I was up for 34 hours before that..

That's 7.5 hours per night. Not a problem.

73 posted on 07/20/2007 4:56:21 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: pacelvi

Amazingly, I didn’t really feel tired for most of my 34 hours of being awake. However, after about 32 hours, it started to get hard to function. It was a really great experience. But it’s normal for me to sleep than long without an alarm, even if I was only awake for 18 or 19 hours that day. Sleep isn’t bad for you, but it kind of hurts your waking world life.


74 posted on 07/20/2007 5:03:34 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: janereinheimer
That is extremely interesting. Apparently, our modern electrified age has reduced the amount of sleep that is considered normal and acceptable. Some people might say that sleeping 12 hours a day is laziness, but once you are asleep, aside from alarms, there isn't much you can do about it. I can sleep through a lot. Well, a good Soldier is said to be able to sleep whenever he can....

Just not for half the day, though.

75 posted on 07/20/2007 5:21:18 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: gaemes

I had real dreams the last two nights. I even dream in color, which is apparently unusual. It was kind of a bad dream, which my Navy instructor during this past winter in Pensacola telling me how embarrassed she was of me. She was my instructor for four months (October 2006 to February 2007), and it took me several hours to recall her name!


76 posted on 07/20/2007 5:31:58 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: mysterio

I was doing some research, and I read that the body produces melatonin (the chemical that induces sleep) for about 12 hours after you fall asleep. So, based on that fact, sleeping for 12 hours appears like it is quite natural!


77 posted on 07/20/2007 5:59:24 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: tlj18
That may be normal for you. My daughter needs a lot of sleep. She sleeps hard and doesn’t hear her alarm sometimes. She is the only kid I know who came home from high school and took a nap. I would be interested to know what you learn about this.
78 posted on 07/20/2007 6:06:05 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: tlj18

Ah...the reason I asked is because I had low BP when I was younger (it’s still lower than average but more healthy/normal as I get older), couldn’t give blood during blood drives, and was always sluggish waking up in the AM.


79 posted on 07/20/2007 7:04:25 PM PDT by agrace
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To: tlj18

Your reply is interesting. I remember my son and brothers and cousins and uncles saying the same thing about good soldiers being able to sleep anywhere. But they never said anything about “long sleepers” in the military. Unless on furlough, of course. Otherwise, that bugler crows pretty early.

Sometimes I think we don’t give ourselves “permission” to sleep until we’re ready to get up. Except maybe when we’re on vacation.

I think we all ought to pamper ourselves a bit more. It’s good for the soul.


80 posted on 07/20/2007 7:59:54 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: agrace

Well, though, I must admit that I am more of a night person than a morning person. In the morning, I may have faster reaction times, but in the evening, I can think much clearer.


81 posted on 07/20/2007 8:35:55 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: tlj18

Do you work in the Power trades?


82 posted on 07/20/2007 8:39:12 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: janereinheimer

True, although external cues (daylight, temperature changes, birds making noise, etc.) are a natural part of our sleep/wake cycle system, so I don’t know that the results one gets when they’re removed provide any reliable information about what amount of sleep is “natural”. And of course, at the turn of the century, the vast majority of people were still spending most of their day engaged in fairly vigorous manual labor of one sort of another, and quite possible needed more sleep than if they’d been leading a less physically demanding life.

One thing that is certainly natural is to sleep more in the winter (i.e. when nights are longer), and less in the summer. That is a factor that’s been pretty much wiped out by the combination of convenient electric lighting everywhere, and work and school schedules which are fixed year-round.


83 posted on 07/20/2007 9:04:54 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Little Bill

Power trades?


84 posted on 07/20/2007 9:44:07 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: Orange1998

Scared the crap out of my wife who had never seen me curl up into a fetal position because of pain...


85 posted on 07/20/2007 10:45:47 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: tlj18; Thinkin' Gal; aculeus

If you work your a@@ off for about ten hours a day this problem will subside.


86 posted on 07/20/2007 10:53:40 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: tlj18

bflr


87 posted on 07/20/2007 10:55:09 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: tlj18

OOps. Big mistake. Saw that you are a soldier. Withdraw my comment. Hope you find relief.


88 posted on 07/20/2007 10:56:16 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: tlj18
I recently moved into a new house and got this luxury queen bed with 400 count combed cotton sheets and you can't blast me awake with an F5 twister.

Make sure you sleep uncomfortably. Like where your ribs hurt and your knees jam up and your arm falls asleep . I used to be able to get up early before I fell into this despicable bliss.

89 posted on 07/20/2007 11:17:40 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake

I recently got a new pillow top mattress, firm underneath and some high count cotton sheets (1000 count from Sam’s club) FABULOUS sleeping now.


90 posted on 07/21/2007 10:27:50 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: tlj18

I always dream in color (peas in a pod, no?). Flight dreams are the best. Although I do really enjoy underwater dreams. Remember you are in control in your dreams. When you forget that they become nightmares. You might find at times that you are partially awake when you start to take control. Just relax, take control and enjoy the show. Please fell free to laugh at my analogy, but I liken it to the Matrix. You are the One.


91 posted on 07/21/2007 1:59:43 PM PDT by gaemes
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To: processing please hold
Thanks for the laugh. :)

Don't mention it. I would have responded sooner, but I just woke up.

92 posted on 07/22/2007 3:28:32 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Ditter
I went out last night with a few of my civilian friends, and two of the three said that without an alarm, they will normally sleep 12+ hours. So is probably is somewhat natural for me! As long as I have an alarm, I'm OK. Since I joined the military, I've gotten used to sleeping just 5-6 hours a night, and sometimes less (as a civilian, I would usually get at least 7 hours a night). It was easy to get away with minimal sleep during Basic Training, since you were moving around and doing stuff all the time, sluggishness would get you yelled out, put in the front leaning rest, etc.

Although, I had a generally intellectual AIT, so you got sleepier a lot more. Some people would take caffeine pills and the like. I strongly resisted energy drinks until the very end (Full Throttle was my specialty). But I quit it on the very last day of school, and won't touch it again unless I have to (I mean, really have to). If you sit down in front of a computer dispassionately for many, many hours, the sleep monster will get you. Guaranteed. Especially when concentrating on what you're doing is counterproductive (i.e., copying Morse Code)...

93 posted on 07/27/2007 1:51:52 PM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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