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No to Medicaid for the middle class
Townhall.com ^ | July 23, 2007 | Star Parker

Posted on 07/23/2007 4:57:09 AM PDT by Kaslin

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Rush was talking about this last Thursday
1 posted on 07/23/2007 4:57:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
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at the rate we’re going michael moore could have waited a few years and filmed his movie in this country.


2 posted on 07/23/2007 5:00:46 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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Consider how difficult it is to find a doctor who will take patients with low “reimbursement” (payment for work done) from CHIP and Medicaid vs. finding doctors on private insurance plans, which usually at least cover office overhead. Now, consider what happens if 50% more families switch from private employer based insurance to CHIP.

10 years ago, when I accepted Medicaid, I used to have families switch and I didn’t like seeing my payment for prenatal postnatal care and delivery dropping $400-800 for families who could afford more children because I got paid less for the same work, for the same family. For the rest of the family’s healthcare, I lost $20 dollars or so per visit.

Our State Rep pointed out that with the 3X poverty level cut-off and his 7 kids, his family came very close to qualifying, with the family allowable income at nearly $80,000 for a family of 9.


3 posted on 07/23/2007 5:07:31 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://ccgoporg.blogspot.com/)
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To: Kaslin
increasing numbers of physicians are refusing to participate in Medicaid because of inadequate compensation.

Congress will just pass a law mandating that physicians participate in Medicaid. (Then when nobody wants to go to medical school anymore, they'll just pass a law mandating that so many people are forced to go to medical school--they'll make it free to go.) Problem solved.

4 posted on 07/23/2007 5:10:31 AM PDT by randita
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Or to put it another way: Name any product or service that is delivered in a competitive free market that has not gotten cheaper over time.

Gasoline. But one reason why it has not gotten cheaper is because of the taxes levied on it and government regulations regarding its production and delivery. So it's debatable whether it's actually delivered in a free market.

5 posted on 07/23/2007 5:12:18 AM PDT by randita
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our congress: determined to defeat capitalism
the public: unaware, till too late
our congress: strip them of more tax dollars, and
for those who disobey our will, another law.
the public: it is good to know where the tyrants are.
while we the public do little or nothing.....

our congress: don't worry, someone will hire a quack

6 posted on 07/23/2007 5:20:51 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Kaslin
35 billion from a cigarette tax of $0.61. Hmmm. So if we are to raise this amount in five years, and there are about 300 million Americans, then we all must smoke about a pack a week to keep the kids healthy (those who are already smokers would need to add this to what they already smoke). If we raise the money in one year, then we must smoke about three packs per week.

Given the restrictions on where we can smoke and who cannot purchase tobacco, this may be difficult. I’d have to smoke my three packs almost entirely on the weekends (the ones I don’t have to fly on), and frankly kids or no I don’t think I could do it.

7 posted on 07/23/2007 5:27:50 AM PDT by DBrow
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read later


8 posted on 07/23/2007 5:28:54 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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Gasoline. But one reason why it has not gotten cheaper is because of the taxes levied on it and government regulations regarding its production and delivery. So it's debatable whether it's actually delivered in a free market.

What you say is true, but because gasoline is a commodity it follows the laws of supply and demand more than other goods and services.

Demand is increasing due to the rising affluence of China and India. These countries are purchacing gasoline at an increasing rate. This coupled with some of the refining capacity being cut do to hurricanes and floods supply has been restricted.

The current upward trend in gasoline prices I believe is temporary. As has been said rising prices are their own solution. As prices rise exploration and development will increase supply and prices will fall again.

9 posted on 07/23/2007 5:31:49 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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Why, in a country of abundance such as ours, where practically everything just gets cheaper and more accessible, does health care stand out in just getting more expensive?

What do education and health care have in common? The price is going up, and they are both subsidized by government.

Every time the government gets involved, the price goes up. But hey, the bureaucrats need to feed, too.

10 posted on 07/23/2007 5:32:24 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: DBrow
Since law can be written in the courts, legislature, and with the stroke of a pen, to do one's civic duty, the public will be forced to purchase three packs a day, under new law. I would not put nothing past this demonrat congress, their judges, and heaven forbid.... a hitlery.

I can see the billboards now, Help a child, Smoke three packs a day.

11 posted on 07/23/2007 5:32:29 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Kaslin
Rush was talking about this last Thursday

Nothing here about the $10 per cigar tax that he talked about.

12 posted on 07/23/2007 5:33:43 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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No, he was talking about that the bill included adults up to age 25. He gave an example for instance that if a couple age 23 and 24 have two children then all four are included


13 posted on 07/23/2007 5:37:28 AM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge is working and the li(e)berals know it)
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So it's debatable whether it's actually delivered in a free market.

It's not, beginning at the source, with OPEC.

14 posted on 07/23/2007 5:38:34 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Kaslin

It does not take too many brain cells to figure this socialist plan out. It’s by the book.

Use a group of people that are currently demonized to finance your program in order to get people on board. “After all, we can get people to go along with this because they hate the smokers and it makes them happy to see them pay. Gee, its all for the kids too.”

They know this tobacco tax will not be enough, when the money gets tight, you raise taxes to all citizens to finance it or else the poor kids will suffer.

The socialists purposely love splitting and demonizing groups of people to play against each other for their plans. They count on us being stupid.


15 posted on 07/23/2007 5:44:16 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: scan59

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16 posted on 07/23/2007 5:49:19 AM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Michael Moore and the Democrats are working together.


17 posted on 07/23/2007 5:53:40 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Those rollaway beds are symbolic of how we are going to roll away the Democrats in 2008)
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To: Kaslin

We are spending too much on entitlements already. The Democrats are taking the money of all taxpayers to buy votes for themselves. This is a form of corruption. We have a useless, self-serving political class in Washington.


18 posted on 07/23/2007 5:55:17 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Those rollaway beds are symbolic of how we are going to roll away the Democrats in 2008)
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To: randita

In nominal terms gasoline is not cheaper than it used to be, but in real terms gasoline has gotten cheaper in spite of increased government regulations and all the excise taxes imposed on it.


19 posted on 07/23/2007 6:06:42 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: popdonnelly

“Michael Moore and the Democrats are working together.”

Really???


20 posted on 07/23/2007 6:06:51 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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