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Posted on 07/24/2007 11:09:16 AM PDT by lizol
US, Poland Ignore Russian Threats
WARSAW, Poland, July 24--Poland and US remain undeterred by Russian opposition to Washington's plans to build a missile defense system in eastern Europe, the chief Polish negotiator said Tuesday.
Deputy Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski said Russia had shown a determination to block the project, most recently by suspending its participation in a key European arms control treaty.
In a phone interview with The Associated Press, Waszczykowski said the Polish President Lech Kaczynski and US President George W. Bush discussed their concerns over Russia's move during their meeting in Washington last week and resolved not to be swayed by it.
"During the meeting of Kaczynski and President Bush, we discussed what else the Russians can do to spoil the whole concept, and the straightforward answer was, well, that we will continue,'' Waszczykowski said.
"Despite Russia trying to spoil this concept, to destroy the whole idea, there is a determination and commitment on the American side to continue the project as they proposed in January of this year,'' said Waszczykowski, who accompanied Kaczynski to Washington.
Waszczykowski said that Bush and Kaczynski discussed how seriously to take Russia's decision to suspend its participation in the Treaty on Conventional Forces in Europe.
"That was part of the discussion -- how are we supposed to react? Is it only rhetoric, used just like 10 years ago during the discussion on NATO enlargement?'' said Waszczykowski, a former charge d'affaires to NATO who led Poland's negotiations on joining the alliance.
"Or is it something serious that we need to take into consideration -- do we have to take care and be afraid? So far it's too early to answer this.''
The US formally asked Poland in January to let it place 10 interceptors in Poland as part of a system aimed at a baseless claim of protecting the US and Europe from future missile attacks from neighboring countries. The system would also include a radar base in the Czech Republic.
Russia says the US anti-missile system would upset the balance of strategic forces in Europe. Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested in June that the US modify the proposal and use current or proposed radar sites in Azerbaijan and southern Russia.
That plan, Waszczykowski said, is "worth taking into consideration. But it cannot replace the whole system -- it can add additional value, but it cannot replace the original proposal.''
Poland has not yet given its final decision.
The last time Russia had a 'free hand' in Eastern Europe you murdered a couple of million people and enslaved the rest for half a century.
Trust me, Ivan. It's highly unlikely you'll get away with that a second time.
How did he get his hands on the Rove Weather-Making machine?
How did he get his hands on the Rove Weather-Making machine?<<<
Now why didn’t I think of that?
Did he buy it from Russia?
Or is Rove also KGB?
Thanks, I needed to laugh.
Was it the Bolsheviks' land to give? How did they take it back if it was never theirs in the first place? Don't you mean to say Russia took its land back? Or was it the Bolsheviks? You say the two are different things, but then you seem to confuse them, when it comes to defending Stalinist aggression against non-Russians. You need to get your story straight. Do you support what the Bolsheviks did or not? It seems that the answer is that you support what they did, as long as they did it to non-Russians.
If Russia invades America's Baltic allies, we will respond just as if Russia had invaded America itself. It will be the end of the world. What about mutually assured destruction don't you understand, Ivan? Start a war with us or our allies and you doom the whole world. That's the simple fact, and that's why you will back down. All your bluster is just bluff, and we are calling your bluff, because we know you are full of crap.
Did the Bolsheviks & Soviets take over Iceland? Singapore? No, they took over Russia.==
Over Russian Empire accually. Russia is only half of Russian Empire population and 60% of territory.
Russia was some how controlled by commies for over 75 years, which were not Russians, oh no not a Russian among the NKVD, the KGB, the Politburo, or all the Russian spies slithering all over the West were really spies from Ireland who had plastic surgery to look like Russians - please Sir, next you will assert the bloody Bolsheviks must have originated from Mars.==
I presume you must to look it closer in where those Bolshevicks cam from. I repeat you thousand time that I did NEVER tell that no Russian were amongst Bolshevick. I just tell you that Russians were the MINORITY between them. Bolshevicks consisted of the many ethnicities of Russian Empire and whole world. Even few american communists like John Reid the commie writer was amongst them. Will you blame America for that?:)
Is your statement an admission the Russians are manipulating the weather, along with their domestic news? :)==
Yeah yeah:) And New Orlean flooding it is Putin guilt too:))) Sell this sensation to the R.J Nyquist. I presume he didn’t blame Russians for that yet:)).
Are the Russians Manipulating our weather ?==
Yeah next time Russia will cause the earthquke 9.0 in Britain. Russia knows how to invioke the earth quakes too:). Beware Russophobes:))))).
Don’t you mean to say Russia took its land back? Or was it the Bolsheviks?==
Bolshevicks took it back.
Do you support what the Bolsheviks did or not?==
No I’m not. Because Bolshevicks did many territorial changes. The most of them are against the best interests of Russia. So if we reject today ALL I emphasize ALL Bolshevick territorial changes then Russia will benefit of it. Russia will get the russian territories which Bolshevicks gave Ukraine and Kazakhstan. I’m totally agree to exchange them for that smal patch of land taken form Finland in 1939. But only as the exchange I emphasize.
If it was about weather modification, which Moscow does, it would still apply.
Would you sacrifice Russian lives to defend Belarus if the west invades?==
Not to start the thermonuclier war with West. We will help them by the ordinary forces.
If Russia invades America’s Baltic allies, we will respond just as if Russia had invaded America itself. It will be the end of the world.==
I doubt it:). It will be very very irresponsible to end the world because of few baltic countries:).
What about mutually assured destruction don’t you understand, Ivan?==
I understand it well. But Russia won’t destruct America until America will do same to Russia. So Russia may occupy baltic states for 3 days and turn her thermonuclier forces into high alert and sit tight and wait for America’s move:).
Now you start WW3? I think it is like to do the voluntary suicide because if you launch then Russian launches. You will destruct your beloved country and kill your beloved family by your own move.
How it will help to those baltic states if America will do suicide? Other thought: your warheads will hit Russians towns but they are so close to those Baltic states that the fallout will land there too. How this will help Baltic states if America will commit suicide and alred dead and they will die slowly of the radiation indone by american explosions? It is as simple as it is - NOT.
So I think you will do the different. You will try to push Russian forces off Baltic states by NATO ordinary ground forces but not going nucleir. But that is exactly what Russia needs:).
Russia will turn to defense of her fortified defense lines and will grind out those ground attacking forces which had to attack her prepared lines. The attacking forces will suffer much bigger casualties the defending forces. So few years of some fights and few millions of the western soldiers dead and West will turn to the talks:). It is the Russia’ strategy:).
If it was about weather modification, which Moscow does, it would still apply.==
Russia is very mighty country and Russian sicntists ar ethe best in the world. So Russia can invoke the high magnitude earthquake too. Tremble Russophobes or Russia will unleash it on you:)))
Let me know when you have made the earth quake.
Let me know when you have made the earth quake.==
Just wait for any new earthquake and pin it on Putin. Feel free - it will be the same creadible as “he flooded Britain” sensation which accepted here wholeheartedly:).
That point is most likely true and saying that Moscow should grant these blocks of nations within the Russian Empire their independence.
The is no question the likes of John Reid & other traitors sold out to the commies.
The Evil Empire had its headquarters in Moscow, Russia, and today's Russia under KGB Putin is twice as evil as Putin's Kremlin promotes terrorism around the globe through supports of terrorist rouge dictatorships around the globe. The only which has been altered coming out of the Evil Empire are the feeble attempts to present Moscow 'new face' (same as the old).
The best russian scientists no longer reside in Russia. :)
Too bad for you, your nazi dreams of invading the Baltics are your own fantasy. Your leaders are in fact such cowards that they will never make such an attack. Vote for Zhrinovsky, he is the only one sick and deranged enough to actually do what you suggest. There will be no war for the Baltics, Ivan. We already had one. It was the Cold War, and your side lost miserably. The good guys won, and the evil Kremlin lost. Too bad for you and satanic forces of evil.
The Evil Empire had its headquarters in Moscow, Russia, ==
Yeah it is true. But the capital of teh Russia was Saint-Peterburg. It was Bolshevicks who moved it to Moscow.
Secondly. The Capital of NATO is Brussel, Belgium. According your logic it means that Belgians run NATO. But we all know that it is not true. Same for USSR and Moscow, Russia.
Your leaders are in fact such cowards that they will never make such an attack. ==
They are no cowards but they simply do not see how such move will profit them. If such move is benefitted them and Russia then believe me or not it will be done.
Does your statement mean the only reason for being on FR is to promote Premier Putin and his neo-Soviet dictatorship?