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Racial divide (Michael Vick)
Yahoo! Sports ^ | July 26, 2007 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 07/27/2007 12:31:46 PM PDT by Michael2001

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To: Michael2001
High above his head he held a simple sign with just a single word: "Constitution."

He has a point.

41 posted on 07/27/2007 1:31:08 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Live Earth: Pretend to Care)
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To: Red in Blue PA

No, sorry, if you are a conservative your opinions are racist, bigoted and intolerant. Got that ? Jesse Jackson and Geraldo said so, that’s why.


42 posted on 07/27/2007 1:41:54 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Michael2001
Vicious Vick apologized to him mother. His mother should apologize to world for birthing such an evil demon as Vick.
43 posted on 07/27/2007 1:42:25 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: Michael2001

What does the color of a man’s skin have to do with if he is or is not guilty of hosting vicious dog fights to make money or for any other reason? This is not a black and white issue. It is a humane and inhumane issue.


44 posted on 07/27/2007 1:42:53 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: mewzilla

‘I wonder if Vick is the only current NFL player involved in dogfighting?’

I seriously doubt it, and I think thats keeping Goodell sleepless these days. Remember last year? Joe Porter, then a Linebacker for the Steelers, had his pit bull ‘escape’.

It climbed into a midget pony’s fenced in corral, and ripped the poor creature to pieces.


45 posted on 07/27/2007 1:47:23 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye
I seriously doubt it, and I think thats keeping Goodell sleepless these days.

And the NFL's advertisers I'll bet....

46 posted on 07/27/2007 1:51:07 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Michael2001
Image hosted by Photobucket.com skin that FPOS alive... then set his azz on FIRE!!!
47 posted on 07/27/2007 1:51:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Old Professer

Why are you threatening me?

Just a warning. No threat. You can do that with some posters less informed as to the current situation as it relates to this despicable activity.

Stick to them. Don’t try it with me. You are outgunned, and I won’t hide behind ‘its acceptable culturally in some circles’.

So was slavery, witch hunts, intolerance of religion, you name it. Its a surface ice appearance of ‘intellectualism’ thats designed to excuse sociopathic behavior, all for human ‘entertainment’ thats no different than the infamous excesses of the Roman era just before the fall.

They offered up similiar claims. History shows how that tactic worked out.

On that note, have a good weekend. I wish you no ill will.

Pet your dog tonight, and be glad he or she never met Michael Vick.


48 posted on 07/27/2007 1:54:51 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: mewzilla

I seriously doubt it, and I think thats keeping Goodell sleepless these days.
And the NFL’s advertisers I’ll bet....

Yep.


49 posted on 07/27/2007 1:55:28 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Michael2001

I’ll bet the majority of the PETA protesters were also liberal, but this clown won’t mention that.


50 posted on 07/27/2007 1:58:02 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: RacerF150
What happened to Ron Mexico’s thug hairdoo?

The "Hate Whitey" cornrows?

Good question.

51 posted on 07/27/2007 2:01:10 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
“Did anyone watch Geraldo on O’Reilly last night?”

Jerry Rivers is a hardcore racist so anything he says on the subject of race is not worth hearing.

52 posted on 07/27/2007 2:01:50 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Michael2001

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/1414/632/400/391385/vick.jpg

Hmmm... In this picture, it looks like Vick flips off people of all races...


53 posted on 07/27/2007 2:09:47 PM PDT by redrunner (Money doesn't change the person... It makes one more of what one already is....)
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To: Tax-chick

“The Constitution binds the government to due process of law, not individuals. As long as no private citizen commits assault or another crime against Mr. Vick, he’s perfectly within his rights to consider Mr. Vick guilty.”

Quite so - but alas it isn’t as simple as that. Even if technically these people do not assault Mr Vick, they can still affect him quite severely. Suppose as a result of this haranguing he “loses it” - his self-belief, his confidence, or whatever. Suppose he loses his job - quite possible - the charges are serious and his employers may feel they have to dissociate themselves from his name?

Gossip and slander and libel can do awful damage. The solution to me is simple. Slap a court order forbidding the media to name people accused of crimes, to be lifted upon a conviction (or an acquital, if you must)


54 posted on 07/27/2007 2:23:31 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Badeye

Yes, convict Vick.

Even better, yank his career.

My problem with this whole thing is watching white affluent protesters (obviously they don’t need a day job), who will probably be marching for a “woman’s right to chose” next week.


55 posted on 07/27/2007 3:21:38 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Mr. Lucky
logical explanations of the expanse of constitutional law have no place on Friday threads

Sorry, I got confused and thought it was still Thursday.

56 posted on 07/27/2007 3:22:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: Vanders9

You’re right - the larger situation is more complex than whether a citizen is legally entitled to consider Mr. Vick guilty.

And for the record, I think this “protesting” is dumb.


57 posted on 07/27/2007 3:23:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: Michael2001

I must have missed the news reports of these African Americans marching with “Constitution” signs and appealing for “due process” during the Duke Lacrosse players case. I’m sure they were there, right? sarc/


58 posted on 07/27/2007 3:38:46 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Vanders9
Quite so - but alas it isn’t as simple as that.

I think it is as simple as that. As long as all sides are working with the same rules, "the constitution" the results and behavior are fair.

as a result of this haranguing he “loses it” - his self-belief, his confidence, or whatever.

You seem to be trying to impose concerns that I'm sure many couldn't care less about.

the charges are serious and his employers may feel they have to dissociate themselves from his name?

As well they should. If he is even remotely connected to this, and a sane person couldn't deny it at this point, he should pay the just price.

Gossip and slander and libel can do awful damage. The solution to me is simple. Slap a court order forbidding the media to name people accused of crimes, to be lifted upon a conviction (or an acquital, if you must)

That's a great idea. Let's just amend the constitution to satisfy your concerns. When can I get mine in there? Can I be the next amender?
59 posted on 07/27/2007 3:59:41 PM PDT by mutley
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To: Badeye

If that is true, that was than and this is now - it’s against the law, white or black, plus it’s disgusting behavior.


60 posted on 07/27/2007 4:08:11 PM PDT by Sonora
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