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Pace University Koran Case - Unbelievably Outrageous [Charged with 2 felonies]
Little Green Footballs ^ | 7/29/07 | LGF

Posted on 07/29/2007 11:03:14 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

Pace University Koran Case - Unbelievably Outrageous

I’ve received an email from Stanislav Shmulevich, who has been arrested in New York for putting a Koran in a toilet at Pace University. And his case is even more outrageous than we first reported.

First, Shmulevich was arrested and jailed for 24 hours. Second, he’s not facing misdemeanor charges—he’s being charged with two felonies, criminal mischief and aggravated harassment.

Felonies. For putting a book in a toilet.

Third, his income is on a borderline that disqualifies him for a public defender, so he stands to suffer incredible financial hardship as well.

Fourth, his name and photograph were published in several newspapers in New York, and he and his mother were ambushed outside the court by reporters. In a case like this, clearly with the potential to enrage radical Muslims, this is so irresponsible of the media that it borders on criminal.

Do we still live in a country that values free speech? This case is pretty good evidence that we do not. Mr. Shmulevich is caught in a Kafkaesque nightmare right out of the Soviet Union, and it’s all happening at the demand of the Muslim Student Association and the Council on American Islamic Relations.

Stay tuned. This is not over. I’m setting up Mr. Shmulevich with an LGF account, and you’ll be able to discuss it with him in person.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: academia; dhimmitude; freespeech; hatecrime; hatecrimes; hero; infiltration; islam; koran; koranflushing; koranjihad; lgf; martyr; muslimstudents; pace; paceuniversity; quran; quranjihad; sharia; shariah; shariahlaw; sharialaw; shmulevich

1 posted on 07/29/2007 11:03:18 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

What are you supposed to do with the darn things?


2 posted on 07/29/2007 11:04:40 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Can anyone in their wildest dreams imagine someone getting arrested and prosecuted for defacing a Bible?


3 posted on 07/29/2007 11:10:14 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: SampleMan

They put a crucifix in urine and called it art...


4 posted on 07/29/2007 11:11:51 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Islam is political. 1st Amendment rights.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 11:12:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
First, Shmulevich was arrested and jailed for 24 hours. Second, he’s not facing misdemeanor charges—he’s being charged with two felonies, criminal mischief and aggravated harassment.

Yet another case of a prosecutor going way way way over the top!

6 posted on 07/29/2007 11:12:50 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SampleMan

Or burning the flag.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 11:15:07 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
I know it's been used before....but why not?
8 posted on 07/29/2007 11:18:02 AM PDT by lookihaveaswordinmybelly (And they say 15 year olds won't understand.....yet here I am!)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I posted a reply to an earlier thread this morning, while all in the US were asleep. It was being treated as a hate crime.. What the H is that? I throw a paperback in the toilet and I am guilty of a crime?
This is so over the top and why I am happy not to be in the US now. PC will destroy the US.


9 posted on 07/29/2007 11:18:57 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: craig_eddy
I posted just that this morning.

Burn the U.S. flag and it’s protected “free speech”
Submersing a Crucifix in a jar of ‘piss’ is considered “freedom of expression”
Flush a Koran and be charged with a “hate crime”.
Teaching the ‘gay agenda’ to Christian students is ordered by the court.
But passing out free Bibles will get you arrested.

Stop the ACLU
10 posted on 07/29/2007 11:19:44 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Someone on another site claimed that the books were removed from a prayer area. If they were his books and no damage was done. No Problem
11 posted on 07/29/2007 11:22:21 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

First question: Who owned the book?

Second: Was there lasting damage to the plumbing?


12 posted on 07/29/2007 11:25:05 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: craig_eddy
They put a crucifix in urine and called it art...

Yeah, but that only offended Christians. They won't lift a finger. Those muslims, on the other hand, will cut your head off. Don't you understand logic?

13 posted on 07/29/2007 11:28:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Listening to the way liberals are defending Ward Churchill, I figure they’ll be all over this. /s


14 posted on 07/29/2007 11:34:12 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

15 posted on 07/29/2007 11:35:11 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

“Fourth, his name and photograph were published in several newspapers in New York.”

Rotten thing to do. Now he’s potentially in danger.

Why’d he take their Koran and throw it in a toilet?

And if a Muslim had taken a Bible and done same, I don’t think they’d be facing felony charges.


16 posted on 07/29/2007 11:47:00 AM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

“Do we still live in a country that values free speech?”

Actually, no.


17 posted on 07/29/2007 11:53:49 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: craig_eddy
I have been mulling about putting in a request for an arts grant to produce works of art such as “Piss Koran”. virgin mohamhead (decorated with porcine droppings). I am sure that I will be getting a large grant from the Endowment of the Arts figuring how much I have been forced to contribute to it over the years.
18 posted on 07/29/2007 12:02:06 PM PDT by SledgeCS (A pacifist destroys his weapons and welcomes a non-pacifist into his home - to have it destroyed.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Since we Americans are apparently subject now to sharia law for disrespecting this book- will sentencing options include beheading or merely 100 lashes and an amputated limb?


19 posted on 07/29/2007 12:02:08 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: kinoxi

WFS...

Wipe
Flush
Shut-up


20 posted on 07/29/2007 12:02:38 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Old Professer

None of that makes it a “hate” crime. If this holds then the case can be made that islam is a hate crime.


21 posted on 07/29/2007 12:10:02 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

22 posted on 07/29/2007 12:10:53 PM PDT by Gritty (In Islam, it's not merely global jihad but that the religion itself is a political project-Mk Steyn)
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To: SampleMan
Time to grovel to the murderers,again. and again. and again.


23 posted on 07/29/2007 12:31:04 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: kinoxi

“What are you supposed to do with the darn things?”

I tried to feed them to the hogs, but the just barfed them up.


24 posted on 07/29/2007 12:32:52 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

I thought we had established that it is not possible to flush a book down a toilet. So, how did this get going again? Has Newsweek downsized to only one repeating loop, or what?


25 posted on 07/29/2007 12:43:29 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: loboinok
Where is the ACLU on this case? Should I even have to ask?

gdc314

26 posted on 07/29/2007 12:58:26 PM PDT by gdc314
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To: kinoxi

If a threat was made to someone while flushing the book, a case is to be had. Barring that however, this is INSANE!

It is a friggin’ book and the owner can do with it as he/she pleases.

This is still America right? After reading stories like this, I am not so sure.


27 posted on 07/29/2007 1:04:57 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia; F15Eagle

Ping


28 posted on 07/29/2007 1:06:52 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Action : letters to governor, judges and school administration. You just need some stamps and few minutes.

http://halal-pig.blogspot.com/2007/07/surrealism-near-ground-zero-man.html


29 posted on 07/29/2007 1:07:28 PM PDT by SITAction
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

How is what he did either aggravated harassment or criminal mischeif? Not only is such prosecution unconstitutional, it is not even supported by law. This guy should seriously threaten New York with a major civil suit.

Section 240.30 Aggravated harassment in the second degree.

A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, he or she:

1. Either (a) communicates with a person, anonymously or otherwise by telephone, or by telegraph, mail or any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; or (b) causes a communication to be initiated by mechanical or electronic means or otherwise, with a person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, or by telegraph, mail or any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; or

2. Makes a telephone call, whether or not a conversation ensues, with no purpose of legitimate communication; or

3. Strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise subjects another person to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same because of a belief or perception regarding such person’s race, color, national origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability or sexual orientation, regardless of whether the belief or perception is correct; or

4. Commits the crime of harassment in the first degree and has previously been convicted of the crime of harassment in the first degree as defined by section 240.25 of this article within the preceding ten years.

Or Criminal Mischeif?

Section 145.00 Criminal mischief in the fourth degree

A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the fourth degree when, having no right to do so nor any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, he:

1. Intentionally damages property of another person; or

2. Intentionally participates in the destruction of an abandoned building as defined in section one thousand nine hundred seventy-one-a of the real property actions and proceedings law; or

3. Recklessly damages property of another person in an amount exceeding two hundred fifty dollars.

Criminal mischief in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor.

Section 145.05 Criminal mischief in the third degree

A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the third degree when, with intent to damage property of another person, and having no right to do so nor any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, hr or she:

1. damages the motor vehicle of another person, by breaking into such vehicle when it is locked with the intent of stealing property, and within the previous ten year period, has been convicted three or more times, in separate criminal transactions for which sentence was imposed on separate occasions, of criminal mischief in the fourth degree as defined in section 145.00, criminal mischief in the third degree as defined in this section, criminal mischief in the second degree as defined in section 145.10, or criminal mischief in the first degree as defined in section 145.12 of this article; or

2. damages property of another person in an amount exceeding two hundred fifty dollars.

Criminal mischief in the third degree is a class E felony.

Section 145.10 Criminal mischief in the second degree

A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the second degree when with intent to damage property of another person, and having no right to do so nor any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, he damages property of another person in an amount exceeding one thousand five hundred dollars.

Criminal mischief in the second degree is a class D felony.

Section 145.12 Criminal mischief in the first degree

A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the first degree when with intent to damage property of another person, and having no right to do so nor any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, he damages property of another person by means of an explosive.

Criminal mischief in the first degree is a class B felony.


30 posted on 07/29/2007 1:09:49 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: vetsvette

Depends on who is speaking.


31 posted on 07/29/2007 1:21:14 PM PDT by sibb1213
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To: PajamaTruthMafia; Larry Lucido

We need to pray for this guy. He should contact ACLJ. No doubt they may be considering intervening.


32 posted on 07/29/2007 1:22:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: The Cuban

The Holy Koran (or the plumbing corrupted by contact therewith) is priceless and belongs to the umma under sharia law, and flushing it down the toilet mechanically causes the initiation of a communication to the sewerage authorities likely to annoy or alarm any Muslims among them. Remember that sharia law applies universally regarding the Holy Koran. This action compares analogously to the deadly odious cartoons of the Prophet Muhamamd—Peace be upon him.


33 posted on 07/29/2007 1:28:26 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: dufekin
is priceless and belongs to the umma

In America it belongs to the owner. Your concept of 'umma' is repressive, socialistic, religious bigotry. If I buy a book I own it.
34 posted on 07/29/2007 1:43:17 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Sharia law claims universal jurisdiction, and the habitual references of the Supreme Court to foreign law clearly bind our judicial system to acknowledge it. How is any particular foreign legal tradition (besides English common law from which our legal tradition derives) any more worthy of our intrinsic adoption than another?


35 posted on 07/29/2007 1:50:05 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: Old Professer

If they were removed from the prayer area, this should only be ‘theft.’ Otherwise, where does it stop? Oh I know, shari’a law. I think this man should go to the Supreme Court with this, with some group’s help. And I think we should all agree on a moment in time and flush Korans across the country.

They can arrest us ALL.


36 posted on 07/29/2007 1:54:12 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: dufekin
There is no universal sharia law for one thing. It cannot be codified as it is made up on the spot in many cases, hence the multitude of conflicting fatwas and erratic/homicidal interpretations.
37 posted on 07/29/2007 1:54:26 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: SledgeCS

I’d put in for a Piss-Koran grant. And maybe a Mo’ in Urine. Let’s see if the NEA will give you money. You could sue if they didn’t. Hey, maybe the ACLU would go to bat for you.......


38 posted on 07/29/2007 1:55:55 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Im sure Spencer Abraham will defend this prosecution.


39 posted on 07/29/2007 1:59:02 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: The Cuban

I got no sympathy for this guy.

He stole a consecrated prayer book owned by a religious authority from a publicly designated prayer area (and probably a consecrated area) with express intent to destroy/deface the stolen property.

Some scumbag stole the Torah from a local synagogue when I was a kid, and partially destroyed it while transporting it. When it was recovered the criminals were handed the maximum sentence possible...

Section 240.30 Aggravated harassment in the second degree.

A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, he or she:

1. Either (a) communicates with a person, anonymously or otherwise by telephone, or by telegraph, mail or any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; or ....

...
that is a clearly defined law, and he clearly broke the law.
...

HE DID NOT OWN THE PRAYER BOOK! HE STOLE IT... further, I’ve read reports where it wasn’t a mass production Koran, but a special print that had significant value enough to cross over the $2000 threshold, if this is true about pricing remains to be seen...

Section 145.00 Criminal mischief in the fourth degree

A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the fourth degree when, having no right to do so nor any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, he:

1. Intentionally damages property of another person;

3. Recklessly damages property of another person in an amount exceeding two hundred fifty dollars.

...
Clearly defined, and clearly broken if the surveillance photos hold up in court.

It would be memorable if this guy uses the old NY State Supreme Court ruling that Islam is a banned cult in the state of NY, as his defense.


40 posted on 07/29/2007 3:18:52 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: gdc314
Where is the ACLU on this case? Should I even have to ask?

The same place they are with the footbaths in 17 different Universities and Islamic indoctrination in the California's Byron Unified School District. To name a couple.

If it fits the ACLU's agenda...
41 posted on 07/29/2007 9:28:10 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I would make the counter-argument that the publishing of the koran is in and of itself a hate crime.


42 posted on 07/30/2007 1:29:19 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Old Professer

Those are valid questions but I don’t know the answer to them. My concern is that this is being charged as a hate crime and being driven by an Islamic student association.


43 posted on 07/30/2007 1:32:26 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: kinoxi

Makes better toilet paper than those slick magazines.


44 posted on 07/31/2007 8:44:11 AM PDT by zackfischer
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To: lookihaveaswordinmybelly
youtube has a music video featuring a Quran being covered in bacon then set on fire. Let's see how long it stays up
45 posted on 08/02/2007 8:11:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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