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Crash Victim's Headstone Repossessed
Breitbart ^ | 07/31/2007

Posted on 07/31/2007 3:28:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

SPRINGVILLE, Utah (AP) - The cemetery headstone for a teenager who died in a car wreck was repossessed after a $750 bill went unpaid. "That's just business," said Linda Anderson of Memorial Art Monument. "If we give every stone to everybody, we'd be out of business. They'd repossess your car if you didn't make payments." Brady Conger, 17, and two friends died when their car smashed into a sport utility vehicle a year ago Thursday.

Memorial Art said bills sent to one address were returned, and the business couldn't reach Brady's mother, who apparently had agreed last year to pay the balance. "The end result was that there was absolutely no one who I could talk to about this," owner Mike Anderson said.

Brady's classmates raised money to pay the bill, and the headstone will be installed again this week.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: repossessed
Lets just hope the undertaker's bill was paid.....
1 posted on 07/31/2007 3:28:31 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

WOW, this Mike Anderson must not want to be in this particular business anymore since he must love bad PR more.

What exactly could he do with the headstone once it was removed? Shave off the kids name? and resell it ?

What a friggen looser.


2 posted on 07/31/2007 3:30:58 PM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: alisasny

“What a friggen looser.”

The parent(s) sound like the real loosers.


3 posted on 07/31/2007 3:34:14 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

It’s funny how people don’t mind giving away other people’s stuff. It’s only when it’s coming out of their own wallets that it becomes a problem. I agree that the deadbeat parent is the loser.


4 posted on 07/31/2007 3:37:20 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: alisasny
Shave off the kids name? and resell it ?

I believe so.

5 posted on 07/31/2007 3:37:32 PM PDT by squidly
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To: alisasny
Folks who make headstones have to be paid, like everyone else. They could likely sandblast the name and information off of it. It's likely, though, that with the publicity, someone will come forward and pay for it.

Regardless, it should have been paid, and it sounds as though the gravestone folks tried to contact the boy's mother, to no avail.

6 posted on 07/31/2007 3:39:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Responsibility2nd
Lets just hope the undertaker's bill was paid.....

Ever see the movie "Funny Farm?"

7 posted on 07/31/2007 3:39:40 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: squidly

Seems to me when we bought the marker for my dad’s grave, we had to pay in full, before it was inscribed. As the old Italian stonecutter told us “ after I putta you name in it I can’t sell it to somebody elsa”


8 posted on 07/31/2007 3:44:35 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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To: alisasny

The margin of profit for many businesses these days isn’t very good. One $750 loss like this could take three to seven other sales to make up. I can’t fault the firm for needing to get paid. They provide a service and need to be compensated. If they adopted your policy, nobody would be in the business of providing gravestones.

Face it, the only service they provide is to the families of dead people. Where do you draw the line in light of that? They couldn’t ever challenge non-payment if your premise was the correct one.


9 posted on 07/31/2007 3:45:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

10 posted on 07/31/2007 3:46:07 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: aomagrat

Claude Mussleman? Great movie...lottalaughs. I really like the Christmas season parts...


11 posted on 07/31/2007 3:48:17 PM PDT by MrLee
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To: DoughtyOne

Possible the grieving mother simply forget after she moved.
Father had no clue until he shows up at the cemetary and the monument is gone.

The bill has now been paid, the tactic used I personally find reprehensible.


12 posted on 07/31/2007 3:52:20 PM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: alisasny

The mistake was in allowing the headstone to be carved and put in place before it was paid in full. You aren’t required to order an expensive headstone or, indeed, to put a headstone on the grave immediately. The cemetery will provide a temporary headstone. Some people take years to emplace the permanent headstone. If they couldn’t afford the headstone, why did they order it?


13 posted on 07/31/2007 3:56:42 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: alisasny

Most small business men are not independently wealthy, like you appear to be. Why don’t you use some of your money to set up a foundation to buy headstones for folks?


14 posted on 07/31/2007 3:56:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: alisasny

I appreciate your opinion, but if it were your business I don’t think you’d opt to shut it down rather than reposess something you had created at the family’s request. There’s nothing reprehensible about their actions whatsoevery IMO. It’s unfortunate they were put in this position, but they acted in good faith all the way along.


15 posted on 07/31/2007 3:57:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt

I couldn’t afford a headstone for my husband’s grave. In fact, I couldn’t afford a grave. So he didn’t get one. We are scattering his ashes in the Blue Ridge. I know he would like that.

A headstone is not a “musthave” item.


16 posted on 07/31/2007 4:03:28 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: alisasny

I bet you find repossessing organ recipients reprehensible too!


17 posted on 07/31/2007 4:09:37 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: I still care

I think that is a much better tribute than cold stone.. My Dad is in the Rocky Mountains.. Soon to be joined by his wife, and my mother... come October...


18 posted on 07/31/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by tje
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To: I still care

King Vanity is donating his body to Body Works inc (plastication) along with his WC if they will use it along with his body for the exhibit.

I am going to be a cadaver for teaching purposes.


19 posted on 07/31/2007 4:51:38 PM PDT by Global2010 (Oregon Coast our lil town. Nah nah nah nah It's our town.)
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To: I still care

Sorry about your loss. I’m sure your husband would appreciate that gesture. I hope my wife shows the same sense if I die before her.


20 posted on 07/31/2007 5:03:31 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: DoughtyOne
About the only thing I can fault the gravestone business owner is not getting payment in full prior to starting work on the gravestone.

If the business had this policy in place, there would not be any chance of negative PR.

21 posted on 07/31/2007 5:22:08 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: tje; I still care
I'm very sorry for your loss I Still Care.

My mother was scattered in San Francisco Bay - in the same area where a number of her friends were scattered.

My parent's thought on the subject was...why be put into a cemetary. All that accomplishes is a feeling of guilt for the family members who can't/don't visit the grave.

Makes sense to me - I'm going to be cremated as well.
22 posted on 07/31/2007 5:41:31 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Normal" - Just a cycle on the washing machine - Naomi Judd)
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To: caseinpoint

What’s the difference between placing something and emplacing something?


23 posted on 07/31/2007 5:43:07 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The grim repo.


24 posted on 07/31/2007 5:47:03 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Xenalyte

Probably nothing that a few hours of sleep couldn’t cure. ;o)


25 posted on 07/31/2007 6:25:03 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: alisasny
What a friggen looser.

So we are to believe that you would rather beat someone out of his money than pay your bills. I think you need to move over to DU, where they don't believe in honor and paying your debts.

26 posted on 07/31/2007 6:32:12 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: alisasny

Yes, stone can be ground down and polished.


27 posted on 07/31/2007 8:02:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Frohickey

I can understand your logic, but just think of the scandle if the firm refused to provide the gravestone before every penny was paid. The uproar would probable approach the scandle this route raised. In this arena, I’m not sure the business could win.


28 posted on 08/01/2007 11:10:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: I still care
A headstone is not a “musthave” item.

Its in the constitution next to cheap gas.

29 posted on 08/01/2007 11:14:51 AM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Brady’s classmates raised money to pay the bill, and the headstone will be installed again this week.

Nice end to a sad story, at least.


30 posted on 08/01/2007 11:15:59 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: alisasny

WOW, this Mike Anderson must not want to be in this particular business anymore since he must love bad PR more.

What exactly could he do with the headstone once it was removed? Shave off the kids name? and resell it ?

What a friggen looser.

You might want to rethink this. It is, in fact, ‘just business’.

The looser is the parent that didn’t pay for her son’s headstone, didn’t try to make some kind of arrangement to do so.


31 posted on 08/01/2007 11:17:14 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Responsibility2nd
This happened to our family. My mother died in 1963 and is buried in Holbrook,AZ. My father picked a headstone but never paid. He would rather drown his sorrows in any local bar. The stone carver repossessed the stone. 20 years later my brothers went back to the cemetery and after some detective work found her burial spot. The caretaker produced a map of the cemetery and plots and from her plot,a line was drawn to the edge of the paper that read “unknown.”
32 posted on 08/01/2007 11:18:08 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (If you want to be lied to ,turn on your TV!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Brady Conger’s headstone will be replaced this morning, having been absent since Memorial Art Monuments repossessed it in May.

http://tinyurl.com/2nsuh2


33 posted on 08/01/2007 11:20:57 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Responsibility2nd

Police are saying excessive speed was the major factor in a collision Wednesday night at the mouth of Hobble Creek Canyon that claimed the lives of three teenagers.

Tasha Brammer, 18, Mapleton, and Brady Conger, 17, and Katelyn Gabbitas, 16, both of Springville, were killed when the sporty 2004 car in which they were riding collided with an eastbound SUV.

http://tinyurl.com/2smj5q


34 posted on 08/01/2007 11:23:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Responsibility2nd

My cousin went in the landscaping business and ended up getting stiffed by a guy who moved and failed to pay for the work done before he sold his house; my cousin had failed to get a state license in California so was unable to get the guy to appear in court in Ventura court from San Jose but got a summary, non-appearance judgement instead.

He hung the paper on his office wall, got the necessary licenses and the next time somebody failed to pay, he sent his crew out to the house, dug up and repossessed all the plants.

With no place to replant them, they all died of course; but the point he made gave him satisfaction.


35 posted on 08/01/2007 11:24:23 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

If my brain gets any looser, I’m going to have to get off this site.


36 posted on 08/01/2007 11:25:25 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: alisasny

So he has to go bankrupt?

That is absurd.

I would imagine it has to be pretty bad to get to that point.

Sadly if you allow just ONE to get away with this then you will have every deadbeat beating a path to your door.

Keep in mind too, quality suffers when the business is not profitable. Does anyone really want a poorly made headstone for a loved one?

This had the proper result. The money was raised the bill was paid, the stone replaced. The end.


37 posted on 08/01/2007 11:27:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 6SJ7
The grim repo

Post of the day!. (Probably the year too.)

38 posted on 08/01/2007 11:28:33 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Badeye

See #36


39 posted on 08/01/2007 11:30:14 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: caseinpoint

perhaps the stone cutter was being nice and the niceness was repayed with non-payment.


40 posted on 08/01/2007 11:30:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Old Professer

Yep.


41 posted on 08/01/2007 11:31:45 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: alisasny

WHy should this business not reposess? They provided a service and weren’t paid... you expect they should just eat it?

Its a sad situation, but how hard is it to come up with $750? or at very least work out payments with the company to pay them back?

Just a few hours a week at a part time job can pay this off.


42 posted on 08/01/2007 11:36:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: alisasny
What exactly could he do with the headstone once it was removed? Shave off the kids name? and resell it ?

Smooth move! Okay, he will have to through a year of being called the world's meanest man, but after that all he has to do is wait until someone else with the identical name and dates happens to boot it in his jurisdiction.

43 posted on 08/01/2007 11:43:36 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Old Professer

The final straw?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1874423/posts?page=43#43


44 posted on 08/01/2007 11:51:32 AM PDT by listenhillary (¿Qué parter DE "illegal" ousted no entente?)
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To: Old Professer
If my brain gets any looser, I’m going to have to get off this site.

LOL! I know what you mean.


Loser

Looser

Lost
45 posted on 08/01/2007 11:53:34 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: aomagrat
Ever see the movie "Funny Farm?"

"Whenever you buy a house, whatever's in the ground belongs to you - whether it's gold or oil...or Claude Musselman.

46 posted on 08/01/2007 11:54:17 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Could have been. People in that area tend to bend over backwards to help each other because of the heavy influence of religion there. But sometimes people get burned. It took awhile for our family to get a proper headstone on a family grave because so many other expenses had to be covered first. Nevertheless, the bronze temporary headstone worked until we could pay up front. I don’t blame the stonecutter for taking drastic action if the family reneged on a promise. It doesn’t sound like it was possible to file a small claims action since the parents couldn’t be found to serve summons.


47 posted on 08/01/2007 12:54:10 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Xenalyte

Okay, sorry for the delay in responding properly to your inquiry. Sleep and a big project get in the way. At any rate, emplace is a legitimate word and denotes (connotes?) a more deliberate or perhaps permanent installation. One places the plate on the table. One emplaces a walkway or building or such. I considered emplacing a more appropriate word because headstones are more than just placed on top of the cemetery grass. Does that answer your question? Could I just as easily have used placed, or installed? Yes. I just happen to like unusual words. I don’t presume to be an English expert but I love the flexibility of our language and try to use what I consider the most appropriate word whenever possible.


48 posted on 08/02/2007 10:38:47 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint

Good explanation! Thanks, and yes, it does indeed answer my question.


49 posted on 08/02/2007 11:16:58 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Cheese . . . milk's leap toward immortality.)
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