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Jeering mob of children 'stoned father to death as he played cricket' (UK)
The Daily Mail - UK ^ | 1st August 2007 | OLINKA KOSTER

Posted on 07/31/2007 5:36:50 PM PDT by fanfan

A gang of children killed a father-of-two by stoning him as he played a makeshift game of cricket with his son, a court has heard.

They surrounded a tennis court where Ernest Norton and his teenage son had set up a wicket and hurled bricks and debris in a "completely unprovoked attack".

Mr Norton, 67, collapsed in a pool of blood after being hit by a piece of rock and died from heart failure, the Old Bailey was told.

The gang, some as young as ten, then ran away and allegedly a witness heard one say, "Did you get him?" and others replying: "Yeah I think so."

Five boys, all aged 13 or under at the time of the onslaught last year, are accused of unlawfully killing Mr Norton, a retired engineering draughtsman. None can be named for legal reasons.

The court heard that the boys, all from Kent, were members of a gang called TNE - The New Estate - who had planned to take part in a "gang fight" earlier the same day.

Instead they went to the leisure centre in Erith, Kent, where Mr Norton and his 17-year-old son James were spending their Sunday afternoon playing cricket on the centre's tennis courts.

David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said the boys carried out a "completely unnecessary, pointless and random attack."

He added: "A group of about ten to 15 youths gathered by the fencing surrounding the courts and began shouting abuse at Ernest Norton and his son. These five defendants were part of that group.

"As the abuse worsened, they began throwing stones and pieces of wood.

"Ernest Norton was struck at least twice on the head by these missiles and one of the stones hit him on his left side of his face, causing a fracture to his cheekbone.

"He collapsed and suffered a heart attack. Nobody relishes the fact that these five boys are on trial at the Central Criminal Court for the serious crime of manslaughter. But their youth is no defence.

"I expect they deeply regret the death of Ernest Norton and there is no doubt they did not intend that he should die. But it was their course of conduct, quite probably with others, that caused his death."

The attack happened on February 26 last year while Mr Norton's wife Linda was in the leisure centre using the gym.

He and his son went off to play cricket, entering the tennis courts through a gate and locking it behind them.

They set up the game and James started bowling while his father stood behind the stumps. Then James saw a group of up to 20 youths approaching.

"They started shouting insults, mostly saying James was a rubbish bowler", said Mr Fisher.

"To his father they were saying 'Go back to your old people's home'."

"While some of the boys left, five to seven began throwing stones, rocks and pieces of wood at the pair, with two attempting to climb the 9ft-high wire fence surrounding the courts."

When Mr Norton collapsed, his son ran to the leisure centre for help. A policeman and ambulance crews tried to revive Mr Norton, but he died at the scene.

One local woman saw a group of boys running away from the scene and heard one shout, "Oh no" and another exclaim, "He's dead."

Another witness heard one say "Did you get him?" and others replying '"Yeah, I think so."

A post-mortem found Mr Norton, who had a triple bypass operation in 1977 but was in good health, died as a result of heart disease alleged to have been brought on by the stress of the attack. He also left a 25-year-old daughter.

All the boys, who were each accompanied by a parent in the dock, are on bail. They deny manslaughter and violent disorder.

The trial continues.


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Tragic: Ernest Norton, 67, was killed by mob of children as he played cricket with his son

The world has gone mad.

1 posted on 07/31/2007 5:36:55 PM PDT by fanfan
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To: fanfan

Of course, the first question that comes to my mind: were these Muslim youths?


2 posted on 07/31/2007 5:38:38 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Finny

That is a terrible racist and bigoted thing for you to say! I was wondering the same thing...


3 posted on 07/31/2007 5:40:42 PM PDT by null and void (Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
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To: fanfan

We’re missing the ethnicity of these murderers.


4 posted on 07/31/2007 5:40:43 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: fanfan
Nobody relishes the fact that these five boys are on trial at the Central Criminal Court for the serious crime of manslaughter.

True, I would rather they had been hung before their trial. At least then there would have been justice in this world.

5 posted on 07/31/2007 5:41:13 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: fanfan

How sickening!


6 posted on 07/31/2007 5:41:50 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: LdSentinal

Stoning. Beheading. Same diff to some...


7 posted on 07/31/2007 5:42:07 PM PDT by null and void (Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
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To: LdSentinal

The ethnicity is “Thug”.


8 posted on 07/31/2007 5:42:36 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

England is becoming hell-like.


9 posted on 07/31/2007 5:42:42 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: fanfan

Lord of the Flies...

Yet another lesson (as if we needed another) about the consequences of infantalizing the members of society.


10 posted on 07/31/2007 5:43:19 PM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: fanfan

Mooslim thugs?


11 posted on 07/31/2007 5:44:25 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: fanfan

Little monsters. What kind of culture allows such spawn to arise?


12 posted on 07/31/2007 5:45:30 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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"I expect they deeply regret the death of Ernest Norton and there is no doubt they did not intend that he should die."

Where in the world does this conclusion come from?

"Did you get him?"
"Yeah, I think so."

I don't think these punks regret anything other than they got caught.

13 posted on 07/31/2007 5:45:40 PM PDT by whd23
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To: WriteOn

England has dismissed Heaven. It can be expected.


14 posted on 07/31/2007 5:45:46 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: null and void

It never crossed my mind.

At all.

8~)


15 posted on 07/31/2007 5:45:56 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Dude’s 67 and has a teenage son?

I’m 38. Neither of my parents is yet 67.


16 posted on 07/31/2007 5:46:47 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Finny

Let’s see. They do not say anything about their ethnicity. I bet they ARE Muslim. Although Lord of the Flies comes to mind.


17 posted on 07/31/2007 5:47:03 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: LdSentinal

Charged with Unlawfully killing? You mean there’s a way to lawfully murder someone?


18 posted on 07/31/2007 5:47:10 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: LdSentinal

Who knows?


19 posted on 07/31/2007 5:47:31 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Finny

probably just chavs...


20 posted on 07/31/2007 5:47:58 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: fanfan
I went to the UK in 2001. Some of the people I talked to over there were so appalled that the US allowed their people the right to bare arms. Then in the same breath they said that a gun shot wound would probably be less painful than being beat to death with a club or pipe like the Thugs in the UK do to people. And I was thinking....duh...and in America we can protect ourselves.
21 posted on 07/31/2007 5:48:19 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: fanfan
Here's a portion from The Times Online:
Mr Norton, a retired draughtsman, was told to “Go back to the old people’s home”. One of the mob yelled, “I’m going to knock you out”, and called Mr Norton a “no-tooth c**t” while others called James a “rubbish bowler”, the court was told.

As the torrent of abuse continued, Mr Norton approached the youths and was struck by a stone on the left temple, fracturing his cheekbone. Mr Norton’s wife, Linda, returned from the gym to find him lying in a pool of blood as desperate attempts were made to save his life. He had collapsed after suffering a heart attack and, although his son and an off-duty policeman battled to resuscitate him, he died after being airlifted to hospital. Police found at least 17 stones in the tennis court and said that Mr Norton had been struck on the head by at least two.

The court was told that two of the boys spat at Mr Norton during the attack and that their DNA was matched to saliva stains on his jacket.

One witness, whose home overlooked the tennis courts, heard one of the group shout: “Oh no.” Another screamed: “He’s dead, he’s dead.” As the mob scattered, they were overheard bragging: “I got a shot” and “I got him with one”.

David Fisher, QC, for the prosecution, said: “This was a completely unnecessary, pointless and random attack by these five defendants. They are jointly responsible for this attack and jointly responsible for his death.”

Mr Fisher added: “Nobody, I hope, relishes the fact that these five boys, because that is what they are, are on trial at the Central Criminal Court for the serious crime of manslaughter. But, I am sure you will readily understand, youth is no defence.

“They were quite old enough to know that to abuse Ernest Norton and his son was wrong and that to throw stones and pieces of wood at them was deeply wrong.

“It was their joint course of conduct, quite probably with others, that caused his death.” He said that Mr Norton had led a “fit and active life-style” and had been in good health on the day he died. But, he added, “the stress and trauma of abuse and a physical attack would make him vulnerable to a heart attack”.

A young girl had witnessed the attack and named a boy who had thrown a large stone, the size of half a brick, which hit Mr Norton on the head. The boy and at least one other youngster at the scene were said to be part of a gang called “TNE”, short for The New Estate.

After his arrest, one of the boys told police that they were waiting for a fight involving four local gangs at a park.

The five youths, who cannot be named, deny the charges.

The trial continues.

22 posted on 07/31/2007 5:49:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: fanfan
"While some of the boys left, five to seven began throwing stones, rocks and pieces of wood at the pair, with two attempting to climb the 9ft-high wire fence surrounding the courts."

Interesting that they were outside a high fence they apparently couldn't get across.

That being the case, I'm curious why Mr. Norton and Master Norton didn't leave the court when stuff started being thrown.
23 posted on 07/31/2007 5:50:00 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Xenalyte

You’re lucky.

My Dad died when he was 64.
I was 17.

I miss my Dad, daily.
:-)


24 posted on 07/31/2007 5:50:25 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: RatsDawg

In the article reference is made to a “gang” or a “group”.

How about PACK?


25 posted on 07/31/2007 5:50:28 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: fanfan
Nobody relishes the fact that these five boys are on trial at the Central Criminal Court for the serious crime of manslaughter.

Personally I prefer murder in the first. And no I doubt they regret it. They regret being caught but I doubt they regret the murder.

26 posted on 07/31/2007 5:51:30 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: aruanan

Given what you posted, I’m calling BS on the original headline.

There is just about no way a “fit and active” man would have a heart attack from being hit on the head.

Concussion, yes. Seizures, yes. Heart attack, I’m saying no.


27 posted on 07/31/2007 5:51:41 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: fanfan
Five boys, all aged 13 or under at the time of the onslaught last year, are accused of unlawfully killing Mr Norton

As opposed to an honor killing, which is totally legal now.

What? No mention of the national origin of the perps? Oh, this is once-Great britain. never mind...

28 posted on 07/31/2007 5:51:54 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Finny

“Did you get him?” and others replying: “Yeah I think so. Allah Be Praised”

There i fixed it


29 posted on 07/31/2007 5:52:56 PM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: Xenalyte

Chris Dodd is 68 and his daughter is 5 or 6.


30 posted on 07/31/2007 5:53:49 PM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: aruanan

so we still don’t know if they’re islamic thugs or just plain ole thugs...eh?


31 posted on 07/31/2007 5:54:40 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: fanfan
Let's be fair here.

Stonings and beheadings are Limey pursuits.

Wouldn't this be loverly?

Leni

32 posted on 07/31/2007 5:54:45 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: Xenalyte
Dude’s 67 and has a teenage son?

Sure, that raises eyebrows if you're from small-town flyover country
(as I am, from north-central Oklahoma).

And at the same time, if you've spent a decade or so in a foreign land
(as I did in West Los Angeles)...
you might consider that this might be a RELATIVELY-decent fellow
that underwent matrimony to a younger lady...and was trying to
be a decent influence in the life of a teen male.


I'm not preaching.
But after years in West LA and Santa Monica, you do start to see
some virtues when folks "step-up" and try to maintain at least
the semblance of a "family".

And I hate to think it...
but in Post-Modern, Post-Christian UK (and LA), the deceased gent
might be considered something of a "square".

That is a REALLY sad thought.
33 posted on 07/31/2007 5:56:36 PM PDT by VOA
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David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said the boys carried out a "completely unnecessary, pointless and random attack."

As opposed to necessary, pointed, and directed attacks!

Every day the news out of the UK reads more and more like A Clockwork Orange....

34 posted on 07/31/2007 5:58:39 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Maelstorm; Cindy; All
That is exactly the question I've been asking myself.

link

Man robbed, beaten in 'senseless' attack

Tue, July 31, 2007
Man robbed, beaten in 'senseless' attack

By MEGAN GILLIS, SUN MEDIA

They even took his shoes.

A slight 20-year-old man faces a long recovery after being badly beaten by a gang of thugs who jumped him, robbed him and left him for dead.

Kevin Pelletier was heading home with his first paycheque from a new construction job at about 1:30 a.m. Friday when four to five men attacked and beat him with a baton.

They took his money, shopping bags and the six-pack he'd planned to share with his dad to celebrate his new job. They left him in a pool of blood on a side street near Cyrville and Ogilvie roads.

"They even took the shoes off his feet and left him to die," said his stricken mom, Kim Morris, 43. "(A police patrol) was just driving by. If he hadn't been driving by, we would probably have lost Kevin that night.

~snip~

35 posted on 07/31/2007 6:00:47 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan
It's not like the British did not see this coming.


36 posted on 07/31/2007 6:01:48 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Xenalyte

Perhaps he didn’t take the threat seriously until it was too late?


37 posted on 07/31/2007 6:02:24 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: uksupport1
Five boys, all aged 13 or under at the time of the onslaught last year, are accused of unlawfully killing Mr Norton...

Requesting your presence. Is the Daily Mail a reliable source? I lived in the UK back in the late 80’s. Most of my fellow Airmen couldn’t get past page 3 of British newspapers.

;-)

38 posted on 07/31/2007 6:03:27 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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"their DNA was matched to saliva stains on his jacket."

" The five youths, who cannot be named, deny the charges. "

LOL!

39 posted on 07/31/2007 6:05:33 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: fanfan

What sick pups. Prayers for this family and their father.


40 posted on 07/31/2007 6:06:07 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Hoping my 'carbon footprint' has crushed a few liberals)
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To: fanfan
David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said the boys carried out a "completely unnecessary,
pointless and random attack."

When wouldn't this attack be unnecessary and pointless?
Oh yea, if he tried to defend himself.

41 posted on 07/31/2007 6:06:11 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: fanfan
Another witness heard one say "Did you get him?" and others replying '"Yeah, I think so."

It was intentional. They don't regret it.

scum (my apologies to scum everywhere)

42 posted on 07/31/2007 6:06:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Xenalyte

He would have been 50 at the birth of his son.

A young man who was about 23 worked for me. His father was in his mid 70s.

It happens.


43 posted on 07/31/2007 6:06:30 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: WriteOn

Well then it’s time strong men and women of England stand and say, “No More”. At some point someone will, better to choose now then to accept then.


44 posted on 07/31/2007 6:06:48 PM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: fanfan

My guess is that the Brits will throw the book at these kids. They’ll at least get probation and a black mark on their records.


47 posted on 07/31/2007 6:10:55 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: null and void

I must be racist as well, because as I read the article I found myself simply assuming they were Muslim.


48 posted on 07/31/2007 6:11:19 PM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Xenalyte
That being the case, I'm curious why Mr. Norton and Master Norton didn't leave the court when stuff started being thrown.

I dunno.

I imagine that being in a fenced area with a bunch of yahoos outside, I might be tempted to stay in the cage.

49 posted on 07/31/2007 6:11:39 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: aruanan

btw ,.. great text on your Home Page , aruanan


50 posted on 07/31/2007 6:13:00 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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