Skip to comments.Harry Potter: 3 More Things I Learned
Posted on 08/01/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by ParsifalCA
I am warning those who have not finished the series . . . and there must be still a few of them by now. . . that there are spoilers ahead. I have just finished the last book . . . having spent an enjoyable evening with it thanks to Sams Club and an indulgent wife.
I am done with Harry Potter and enjoying the literary aftertaste the way one enjoys a fine meal almost as much after it is done as when it is being consumed . . . though it is a bit sad that the series is finished.
And it is really finished . . .
Will one be able to re-read the books with pleasure?
I think the answer is only a tentative yes. If one knows the puzzles and the secrets of the book, it will not take away the charm of the characters or the fun of a good Quidditch match, but the first read will always be the best.
The strength of these books is in the plot and the second read, when everything is known, will be satisfying for finding all the clues to what happens . . . but I am hard pressed to know if I will want to re-read them a third or fourth time.
A really great book is as good on the fourth read . . . and some childrens books (Little White Horse) are better.
I deeply enjoyed the last book and thought the ending satisfying. For those who found them quite Christian, they will find much in this last book to give strength to their idea.
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Ron Paul is definitely a muggle.
I am an adult and am capable of discerning when I am being presented with a pack of lies - such as is presented in HP.
Your mother turned you on to “Office Space”?
You must have one of the coolest moms EVER. (You oughta get her a red Swingline.)
It’s always good to find a new subject for reading, and Lincoln is extremely interesting!
1) define "serious accultism books."
B) Document that this has occurred. Dates, place, and if you have a camera in your cell phone, bonus. I somehow don't see any bookseller with half a brain stacking Aleister Crowley books around the Harry Potter display. It would be one for the all-time annals of dumb marketing, and B&N didn't get where it is by being stupid.
Careful examination of the fossil record clearly shows that Grindlows are descended from Sea Monkeys.
But, what does it mean that you can't apparate in and out of Hogwarts? Hmmm???
Now there's a sharp observation.
That's frightening. My oldest came home from kindergarten and told us that the "South Americans killed Abraham Lincoln."
And we live in Virginia...
>>Seems like people who arent supposed to be reading about witchcraft sure are spending a heckuva lot of time reading about it.<<
“I only came in here to get directions on how to get away from here!”
I remember when my kids discovered that their friends next door had never heard of the Alamo.
Actually I’ve put forth my argument multiple times. You keep fleeing in terror from that and then return to whining about how I think it’s creepy you talking about teenage male prostitutes is a good argument.
Let’s review shall we:
There is no occult in HP.
There is nothing similar to real world occult in HP.
This is made clear early on in the first HP book and movie (and repeated throughout) when we learn that Harry does “magic” even though he knows nothing about it.
Your “sources” are crap, you’ve got a supposedly pagan organization that no one ever heard of and if you go to their website it’s clear they aren’t actually very much of an organization; a general secretary to a teacher’s organization who doesn’t actually know anything about the occult; and a bunch of condemning “Christians” who not only think Harry Potter is evil but also include Mormon and Jehovah’s Witnesses on their evil list.
So there it is again the argument I’ve put forth multiple times, and that you keep ignoring to whine about other stuff. You really should stop lying, you know I’ve made these arguments, you know they win, you know you have no facts. Trying to say I haven’t presented an argument is just pathetic and lame at this point. You’re wrong, man up and admit it. Stop aligning yourself with the worst elements of “Christianity” (those people really aren’t Christian) and work with the truth.
It means they're protectionist xenophobes.
Well, in the 7th book, the government forces all the students to go to school and makes homeschooling illegal. Of course, Voldemort is in charge of the government at the time, so I don't know how good a point that would be.
Regret is the key to allowing his soul to be healed. One cannot repent without regret seems to be part of the message and one that I agree with. It is impossible for Man to repent that he does not regret.
You say that like itsuhbadthing...
Yup. We were both working in cubicles at the time, and swapped Dilbert strips. I don't care who you are, if you have ever worked in a cubicle, Office Space has something to say to you.
I knew it was a movie from the Beavis and Butthead guy that did mediocre box office and got middling reviews. Mom told me I had to see it, and I trusted her, an instinct that never steered me wrong.
You must have one of the coolest moms EVER. (You oughta get her a red Swingline.)
Sadly, she's not around any more. But before she passed, she found herself a red Swingline, which I inherited.
Funny thing is, I learned about the Alamo from watching TV. My parents had me watch reruns of that old Davy Crockett show. When he dies at the Alamo at the end, it was very crushing for a 7 year old, so I decided to read up about it.
I guess TV isn't ALL bad. ;-)
B) (B?) I will gladly send you the info in a private email if you wish. It occurred at a B&N around Halloween time. I was so shocked I wanted to take a picture but I had no camera. I simply couldn’t believe it. What’s more, this table was right at the entrance to the children’s section.
I’ve seen the same thing done on several occasions.
(in my best Kelly Bundy voice) Hey . . . HEEEEEY!
*snort* Not just reading, bur OBSESSING about it!
I, and our two youngest, both teens, have read each of the books at least twice, but none of us have obsessed about the fantasy world of witches and wizards represented in them. SirKit hasn't read them, but then, he mostly reads non-fiction.
I have to look for that recording. That's an inspired combination. Of course, Cleese could read the want ads, and I could listen o that for at least an hour.
Bring in a couple million House Elves and the cheap labor lobby would forget all about it’s affection for illegals!
So, lemme get this straight...
Barnes and Noble had a display of occult/witchcraft books out at Halloween and that makes Harry Potter evil because???
Good Grief Charlie Brown...
Well, Carville's wife and family DO call him 'Serpent Head". ;o)
Not mine, not yet. But I'm sure they'll get there soon. For voracious readers, there has never bee a better time to be alive.
Hogwarts has a border fence.
I can only assume we'll be hearing of the evils of candy corn and mini-Snickers bars.
And if that swill he spews isn't Parseltongue, I don't know what is...
And the bankers are GOBLINS!
Since I chose the books my children read, when they were younger, it wouldn't matter. Since they are now almost 18 and 20, they can choose their own. If they DID read a story written about such carp, I'm sure they'd recognize it as such, and not be encourage to act like the characters in the book, because they KNOW better.
2. The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, doesn't diminish its power to change beliefs and values.
"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24
That first is an OPINION about a FILM. The same could be said for that old claymation show, Davy and Goliath, with the Christian boy and his TALKING DOG! You do realize that in the practice of Voodoo, it is common to cast spells that cause animals to speak in human voices, don't you? So, is Davy and Goliath trying to convert children away from Christianity and towards Voodoo? COULD it cause them to seek out information about Voodoo? What about your TALKING VEGETABLES in Veggie Tales? That's certainly "founded in fantasy", is it not?
The verse cited is taken out of context and does NOT even support the opinion. God does not assume we are all to stupid to use the gift of free will He gave us.
3. Each occult image and suggestion prompts the audience to feel more at home in this setting.
BZZZZT! An OPINION once more. Perhaps the author felt this way. I certainly did not. Continues:
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.... Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, And prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:2-21
Fortunately, it says NOTHING about those who call the "harmlessly entertaining" evil!
4. God tells us to "abhor what is evil" and "cling to what is good
This one asuumes that Harry Potter movies are evil. It tries ti use the premise to support itself. It is circular logic.
5. Immersed in Hogwarts' beliefs and values, children learn to ignore or reinterpret God's truth.
Not MY children. They are growing up with an understanding of God. They are of strong Christian minds and can discern.
6. This inner change is usually unconscious, for the occult lessons and impressions tend to bypass rational scrutiny
As does belief that Harry Potter movies have a bigger impact on children than a loving, Christian home.
Look, I read every one of the reasons on that website and I can't find a single PROOF that Harry Potter books and movies are designed the thwart the will of God and/or cause children to turn away from God. Furthermore, even if that WAS the case, children properly raised in loving, Christian homes have little if anything at all to fear.
I could use those exact same arguments to "reason" that that watching a David Copperfield's "magic" act is equally dangerous.
There was a table display - half HP & half real occultism.
Weak minded FOOL, you!!
I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned interracial dating yet.
Evil does walk at Halloween, how else can you explain the tykes making the rounds with their UNICEF boxes?
If you know anything about retail, you know that economy of space is a major issue.
But thanks for admitting that Harry Potter isn't "real occultism."