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Tuesday, August 1, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/01/2007 4:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn

Edited on 08/01/2007 4:30:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I received an e-mail today from the Fox News producer who booked me for the O'Reilly Factor last night. The links have been forwarded to Jim Robinson for review.

Jim asked me to start a thread with the links so that Freepers, and everyone else, could see for themselves what the fuss is about.

The Hillary Clinton stray bullet assassination comment was a very bad joke comment that someone posted two days ago. It was flagged last night after the O'Reilly Factor broadcast and was removed by a moderator. It is available for the time being in Google cache:

To: Virginia Ridgerunner I like my scenario better:

After eight years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Iraq since we left, taxes have gone up by 60% and Chile, Bolivia and Columbia are now Communist regimes, a stray bullet at a NARAL rally catches President Clinton and kills her.

As they take away Cindy Sheehan she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.

The next day the dow goes up 2000 points and closes at 2150.

4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:00:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")

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Don't even bother trying to defend that one. Assassination jokes have no place on Free Republic. Yes, Cindy Sheehan has written of her fantasizies about killing President Bush--and she's not joking, but that's her problem. We're better than that.

The "homosexuals are dogs" comment is taken out of context. The actual quote is "Homosexuals are the modern day dogs in the manger." That was in reference to an article about proprieters in the U.K. not being allowed to deny hotel accomodations to homosexual couples on account of religious belief.

The American Heritage online dictionary gives this description for the phrase: dog in the manger, NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. dogs in the manger. One who prevents others from enjoying what one has no use for oneself. ETYMOLOGY: From a fable in which a dog prevented an ox from eating hay he did not want himself.

That comment was posted two days ago and has also been removed by the moderators. It is available for now in Google cache.

The "I hate blacks" comment was nowhere to be found in the other threads referenced.

The threads are about crime in the black community, gangsta culture and Jesse Jackson. Two of the threads are in the Smoky Backroom.

Homosexuals+are+the+modern-day+dogs+in+the+manger

Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates

Jesse Jackson interview about Imus

Sagging Pants May Have Contributed To Fatal Shooting

stray+bullet+at+a+NARAL+rally+catches+President


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To: kristinn

I think we can effectively rule out O’Reilly today with the MN bridge collapse. If Bill’s on at all it will only be to provide backup commentary to Shep or whoever else takes over for Shep.


101 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:41 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: silentknight

You’re quite the drama queen, aren’t you?


102 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:52 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Petronski

i see nothing wrong with it


103 posted on 08/01/2007 4:47:18 PM PDT by zwerni (it's the end of the world as we know it...)
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To: Enchante

I didn’t get hooked until Season 4 - and now, it’s so sad...I own all the seasons 1 -5 and will be buying 6 when it comes up for sale.

I have no life other than worshipping Jack Bauer.

I am doomed.


104 posted on 08/01/2007 4:47:21 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: kristinn

PING...................


105 posted on 08/01/2007 4:48:03 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: kristinn

PING...................


106 posted on 08/01/2007 4:48:16 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: kristinn
You were ambushed! see this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/oreilly-condemns-right-w_b_57844.html

Fox probably didn't find those posts, they were more than likely directed to them.

107 posted on 08/01/2007 4:48:42 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: toldyou; All; Jim Robinson
I have mixed feelings about the appearance. BOR used Kristinn as a prop, and did not let him speak, not that there was much more he could say being caught flat footed with charges that were impossible to refute with no advance warning. Odd, BOR lacked any specific quotes for KOS or DU but had them for FR. He was patently duped into equating FR to “all the other hate sites”. We have to know that we won’t get a fair shake. Think catacombs. Sometimes cover is needed, like the early Christians. Your freedom of expression is not free, and must be exercised, but when it is used others will try to silence. FR is provocative and thus the other side wants it shut down, much like Kerry, Lott and others want to take Rush off the air. I have felt unease when FR is even mentioned on the DBM. Some on here seem pleased and flattered but recognition brings unwanted attention and attacks. Recall what the Swiftboaters went through. Recall how BOR was so duped by someone to dismiss them out of hand as discredited, liars, politically motivated, ultra right wing nut jobs etc. John O’Neill would just laugh and chuckle about being a Democrat. But he was a warrior of the courtroom and know how to take it, even on one kidney. FR is corrosive to liberalism. Let’s keep it that way.

Let us keep an eye on posts and hit the abuse button. Err on the side of keeping FR’s integrity intact. (Not that we owe anything to pinhead, moron BOR).

108 posted on 08/01/2007 4:49:19 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: #1CTYankee
Jim's been very kind!!!!

And I'm addicted to FreeRepublic!

109 posted on 08/01/2007 4:49:41 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: Kevmo; kristinn
The “homosexuals are dogs” comment is taken out of context. . Why remove it?

Dittos there

110 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:14 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: kristinn; skinkinthegrass; SteveMcKing

I’d say we’re starting to feel the tingling of the coming totalitarian state.

“America the melting pot” is becoming “America the boiling pot” and we are the toads, and the water’s starting to warm nicely.

How do you think this conversation would be going on an underground chat room?

Maybe like this?

“Who typed that statement!?”

“When did they say it? Do you think we’ll be banned?”

“Do you think we’re allowed to say such-n-so?”


Really folks.....haven’t we just outsourced the power to squelch free speech to the media?


111 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:22 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: silentknight

>> Standards? What standards. You have got to be kidding me. I post on here from time to time but I find a large number of people to be extremely hateful. yaddayaddayadda

Just had a little look-see at a screenful of /your/ posts, there, pot-kettle-black.

You seem just like most of the rest of us. Once in awhile you’re a bit over the top yourself.

FR is not a tea party. It’s an opinion forum. A little rough-and-tumble occasionally.

I can speak only for myself, but I like it that way. Beats political correctness, anyway.


112 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: kristinn
Interesting that O'Reilly has a guy on his staff who seems to have the job of finding questionable posts on FR.

Must be where he gets his own material eh.

113 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kristinn
O'Reilly used these weak examples!! This is an outrage!!

We have a Death, "scenario", not a threat etc. If that was reported it would have been pulled, but it really is more a bad joke than anything else.

The, "Dog in the Manger", comment was not presented that way but as Homosexuals are dogs, a completely different meaning. That was no accident.

The last is the worst. O'Reilly said "I Hate Blacks". Where is it? Racist statements are the most inflamatory.

Moderators cannot pull non-existant posts.

O'Reilly's entire report was a deliberate act of malignant dishonesty. It is a defamatory and nasty hatchet job.

114 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Jim Robinson
In other words, a big fat nothing. O’Reilly really stepped in it this time.

What can we do? Should we all write in?

115 posted on 08/01/2007 4:50:56 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: kristinn
It was not a 'fun' interview, but hopefully some good will come out of it.

I usually reserve this comment for members of allied military members, but in this case......

Thank you for your service. :-)

116 posted on 08/01/2007 4:51:15 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: kristinn

If you follow O’Reilly’s orders to you from last night, you will need to have each and every poster submit comments to a ‘professional’ reviewer before they are posted on the site.

That would end FreeRepublic and that’s no stretch.

Each of the comments you posted were twisted out of context by O’Reilly. The comment about Hillary catching a stray bullet is not an assassination ideation but an accident ideation. Any candidate or President can have an accident and it is fair game to discuss what might happen in the aftermath.

I still think Jim Robinson needs to retain a lawyer and write a letter to Foxnews accusing them of slander, demanding an on-air retraction of Mr. O’Reilly’s comments.

Also it is not a stretch to say that Mr. O’Reilly has threatened FreeRepublic members with their right of free speech. Last night’s episode showed that he is for ending free exchange on interent forums unless they are ‘professionally’ moderated. That is clearly a threat to censor internet discussions.

I haven’t watched O’Reilly in years and only caught the You Tube broadcast or your interview linked here in FR. His ratings are declining and it is obvious why that is happening.

On the other hand FreeRepublic’s reputation is still growing. His tirade leveled at you last night gave the site a lot of free publicity. People that are curious after listening to him last night will wander into FR and see that it is a great source of information and debate.

BTW you did great at keeping calm and poised.

But now he needs to be slapped with a letter that lays out the slanderous elements of his comments last night and then he needs to retract his comments and apologize on-air to FR and all its members.


117 posted on 08/01/2007 4:51:38 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: silentknight

You need to give us some examples of what you consider hateful. For example, if I called your said post intolerant, you just being overly sensitive, and your comments a pile of whining excrement, would that be considered by you to be hateful or just...dare I say...truthful?


118 posted on 08/01/2007 4:51:40 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: kristinn

What happened?

Did O’Reilly criticize FR for having crude offensive material? Because that would be ironic considering a few months back this happened:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1835359/posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRbH0hpTiLs

Megyn Kelly on the O’Reilly factor said that a rape victim lost on both ends because the rape only lasted two minutes. O’Reilly brushed it off and no one acknowleged it.


119 posted on 08/01/2007 4:52:11 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: kristinn
I emailed Mr. O'Reilly's site with info on the "I hate blacks" reference

I said:

"I hate blacks" for example was an Asian paper's "I Hate Blacks" column. Also, I found two others; to wit, "The reason is not that I hate blacks. . . ." and "...his name used to be 'I hate blacks, Jews and Sp***', now he is a loving member of the Democrat party!"

[End]

I asked that he post links to prove his assertions because that one did not pass muster.

If what the producer sent to you is all they can come up with then the whole bunch of them are "whirling dervishes".

120 posted on 08/01/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: doorgunner69
"O'Reilly blew it bigtime, and has enraged a heckuva lot of former viewers of his show. Big mistake."

So he made a booboo. If he is any kind of a man he will correct it. Bottom line is he looks out for our children. I'll give a man a lot of slack for that when otherwise I might not give him the time of day. I think Bill is in a slump but he is on our side.

I have a feeling it's all going to work out fine for all of us. Right Bill?

121 posted on 08/01/2007 4:53:48 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something. (Fred/Newt '08))
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To: Kevmo
I have been hanging around here since '97, I am going to retire week after next and Vote Rat, and starve my FReeper brethren while they support me. JimRob is a closet commie and has been leading all of us Goldwater youth down the path of perdition.

I don't think that O'Reilly understands the American right.

122 posted on 08/01/2007 4:54:01 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Gee, The Factor got only one of three and that's all it takes to make a "hate site"?

I'd say 0 for 3. An Internet joke about a fictional character being shot (there is no President Hillary Clinton) is not a wish for an assassination.

123 posted on 08/01/2007 4:54:15 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: kristinn

Frankly, I don’t like the loose definition of “hate speech” being thrown around like a beach ball.
We cannot ignore color or gender or culture when the issue is at odds with the laws and the fabric of the Republic of America.

For the most part, Free Republic is a color blind community. But we are not blind to trends and cultures that threaten our very existence as a nation. Hate speech is not defined as calling for enforcement of immigration laws. Hate speech is not defined as identification of a criminal or terrorist because of race. Hate speech is an accusation loosely thrown around as a means of intimidating anyone who speaks out against any culture that attempts to change or control the beliefs of the majority view.

I think O Reilly is a troll looking for ratings. I bet he gets his share of hate mail. I am sure, if his hate mail was published, it would be far worse than any comment posted on Free Republic.

I admire your ability to face O Reilly. But he makes it hard to get in a word edgewise with his self serving agenda.


124 posted on 08/01/2007 4:54:22 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: coffee260; silentknight
You need to give us some examples of what you consider hateful.

Don't bother with this guy. I think we have a drive-by here.

125 posted on 08/01/2007 4:54:37 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: kristinn; Eaker; GulfBreeze; TheMom; weegee; wolfcreek; Squantos; thackney; Allegra; ...

Bill,

I challenge you to directly compare the participants here on Free Republic and the Daily Kos websites to a face to face debate on any issue, you pick them, give us a call, and we’ll be there...

I put our membership up anyday against the participants of the Daily Kos, and you sir are welcome to moderate...

That should be quite an eye opening experience!

Steve Williams
Houston, Texas

(lets see if this comment makes it on the show)


126 posted on 08/01/2007 4:55:45 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: kristinn

There are still some tacky posts not pulled by the mods and we can do better, but I doubt it will happen. It’s sad that BOR can twist this stuff to trash us. I think the publicity is better than not though. People will see for themselves when they come to check us out.


127 posted on 08/01/2007 4:56:03 PM PDT by tioga
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To: sam_paine

Damn a bridge collapse in minneapolis, cars and buses including a school bus went into the water.


128 posted on 08/01/2007 4:56:07 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware; paltz
As Paltz noted last night:

Bill forgot that Newscorp owns Myspace. How many Wierdos and criminals sign up there?...Wait!!! I forgot they have PAID PROFESSIONAL MODERATORS

129 posted on 08/01/2007 4:58:19 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: kristinn
Do you think BOR knows those are the rarities or will even attempt to put things into perspective sometime on the air?

Nam Vet

130 posted on 08/01/2007 4:58:40 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
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To: CT
Glenn Beck comes on an hour later, and is FAR better than BORF...thxs, I'll try to watch.
131 posted on 08/01/2007 4:58:45 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....run, Fred, run. :^)
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To: CT

O’Reilly probably knows all about Dan Rather and doesn’t want to discuss the matter lest we continue the work we’ve begun here and pursue it to the point where FOX puts him on the street.


132 posted on 08/01/2007 4:58:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RonDog

There was a thread discussing a column titled, “I Hate Blacks”. If that is what O’Reilly was talking about he
presented it dishonestly.


133 posted on 08/01/2007 4:59:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: #1CTYankee

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/oreilly-condemns-right-w_b_57844.html

Good find.


134 posted on 08/01/2007 4:59:15 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: bannie
Jim is one of the best, I met him in DC, a person of passionate conviction I would be glad to call my friend.

(No suck up , just the facts.)

My wife calls this place my cult site, she just doesn't understand why someone would be so interested in the discussion with like minded people.
She spends most of any extra time helping at the church.

Bless her heart. (Are there such a thing as coattails to heaven? ;-D

135 posted on 08/01/2007 4:59:23 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: kristinn
You do a good job in representing FR.

Ya know, nine years ago when I signed up I never thought a web site could have such an impact on the political scene, people's lives, etc..

5.56mm

136 posted on 08/01/2007 4:59:23 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: mware

Just saw that myself. I’m just going to step away from the kbd for a while, I think.


137 posted on 08/01/2007 4:59:54 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kristinn

You did a great job.


138 posted on 08/01/2007 5:00:02 PM PDT by brivette
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To: silentknight

It is exceedingly rare to see anything disgusting on FR.


139 posted on 08/01/2007 5:00:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

>> Must be where he gets his own material eh.

My guess is, there are a number of “professional” pundits who use FR as a source for material.

I can’t quote the exact case, but a couple times I have heard Rush expound on a news item and adopt a point-of-view on it that seemed exactly like what I just read on FR! Maybe a coincidence... maybe not.

And why not? FR is a superb news portal! All the news I care to read (and then some), and plenty of thought provoking comments, some of which even make sense. ;-)


140 posted on 08/01/2007 5:00:31 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: kristinn

Kristinn I think PJ Bridgade need to do Rather gate reset on BILL


141 posted on 08/01/2007 5:00:59 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Jim Robinson
Ping to post 136.

5.56mm

142 posted on 08/01/2007 5:01:05 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: silentknight

troll alert!


143 posted on 08/01/2007 5:01:12 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: silentknight
"..but there are a large number of people on here that should keep their mouth shut most of the time.."

Feel free to start with youself.

144 posted on 08/01/2007 5:01:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Tribune7

Oh, yeah, MySpace with the 29,000 known sexual predators that they just got around to booting out of the place..... at least they’ve done something now, but how long were all those scumbags there, trolling for fresh victims? O’Reilly should focus on NewsCorp for awhile!


145 posted on 08/01/2007 5:01:24 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: M Kehoe

Ya know, nine years ago when I signed up I never thought a web site could have such an impact on the political scene, people’s lives, etc..
***Ditto here. It’s been an interesting ride.


146 posted on 08/01/2007 5:02:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: silentknight

I wouldn’t be a BIT surprised to see YOUR post # 55 showcased on O’Reilly tonite or soon, and to see hymn wagging it in our faces while saying “see? even FR members agree with me”.

Maybe that was your intent? Maybe you’d even like some facetime as a “guest”?

O’Reilly isn’t worth watching and you’re not worth reading - the common denominator is less-than-honest spin.


147 posted on 08/01/2007 5:02:40 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: stevie_d_64

You ummmmmm just want us to “debate” them correct ?


148 posted on 08/01/2007 5:02:58 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Jet Jaguar
"Good find.",/i>

Thanks Jet! read this days ago and figured out how things would come out. I found it on Yahoo while searching on Freerepublic/news.
Who would have thought it would show up in news?

If I had known Kristinn was slated to be on I would had alerted him.

149 posted on 08/01/2007 5:04:44 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Enchante
O’Reilly should focus on NewsCorp for awhile!

Yeah, Bill. What about those irresponsible people at NewsCorp?

150 posted on 08/01/2007 5:05:13 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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