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Tuesday, August 1, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/01/2007 4:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn

Edited on 08/01/2007 4:30:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I received an e-mail today from the Fox News producer who booked me for the O'Reilly Factor last night. The links have been forwarded to Jim Robinson for review.

Jim asked me to start a thread with the links so that Freepers, and everyone else, could see for themselves what the fuss is about.

The Hillary Clinton stray bullet assassination comment was a very bad joke comment that someone posted two days ago. It was flagged last night after the O'Reilly Factor broadcast and was removed by a moderator. It is available for the time being in Google cache:

To: Virginia Ridgerunner I like my scenario better:

After eight years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Iraq since we left, taxes have gone up by 60% and Chile, Bolivia and Columbia are now Communist regimes, a stray bullet at a NARAL rally catches President Clinton and kills her.

As they take away Cindy Sheehan she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.

The next day the dow goes up 2000 points and closes at 2150.

4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:00:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")

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Don't even bother trying to defend that one. Assassination jokes have no place on Free Republic. Yes, Cindy Sheehan has written of her fantasizies about killing President Bush--and she's not joking, but that's her problem. We're better than that.

The "homosexuals are dogs" comment is taken out of context. The actual quote is "Homosexuals are the modern day dogs in the manger." That was in reference to an article about proprieters in the U.K. not being allowed to deny hotel accomodations to homosexual couples on account of religious belief.

The American Heritage online dictionary gives this description for the phrase: dog in the manger, NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. dogs in the manger. One who prevents others from enjoying what one has no use for oneself. ETYMOLOGY: From a fable in which a dog prevented an ox from eating hay he did not want himself.

That comment was posted two days ago and has also been removed by the moderators. It is available for now in Google cache.

The "I hate blacks" comment was nowhere to be found in the other threads referenced.

The threads are about crime in the black community, gangsta culture and Jesse Jackson. Two of the threads are in the Smoky Backroom.

Homosexuals+are+the+modern-day+dogs+in+the+manger

Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates

Jesse Jackson interview about Imus

Sagging Pants May Have Contributed To Fatal Shooting

stray+bullet+at+a+NARAL+rally+catches+President


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To: kristinn
Kristinn, did he explain about the "I hate blacks" posts.

Of all of the comments he mentioned that was the most damning.

51 posted on 08/01/2007 4:25:25 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: kristinn

Thanks for keeping your cool during the interview.

I have lost any residual respect for O’Reilly. He’s as smarmy and as dishonest as Herr Olbermann.


52 posted on 08/01/2007 4:26:59 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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To: kristinn

m m m monster bump!


53 posted on 08/01/2007 4:27:04 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: txflake
Go run thru his postings.

Like I said, it's not personal.

54 posted on 08/01/2007 4:27:09 PM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: kristinn

Standards? What standards. You have got to be kidding me. I post on here from time to time but I find a large number of people to be extremely hateful. Obscene comments that should never be made are made in almost every thread. There are a lot of people that post on Free Republic that are either sick in the head or post disgusting comments because they figure nobody will ever know who they are.

Sorry but Free Republic is full of disgusting comments. The mods may do a good job at keeping trolls out but they should don’t care what a lot of the regular posts say. IF Free Republic was the only view of the Republican party that I ever got then I would think Republicans were the most hate filled group out there.

It isn’t everyone, of course, but there are a large number of people on here that should keep their mouth shut most of the time. That will never happen though.


55 posted on 08/01/2007 4:27:52 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: kristinn

So pretty much 2 for 3 BOR took the quote out of context AND didn’t even use a direct quote.

The third hasn’t been found in the materials provided.

So 3 for 3 I call BOR a lier.


56 posted on 08/01/2007 4:28:42 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: kristinn
The moderators do a great job of holding up the standards that Jim has set for Free Republic. However, they need all of our help--in exercising our good judgment when posting and in hitting the abuse button when out of line comments are made.

Thank you.

This forum gets a staggering volume of replies, far more than we mods can keep up with. When we don’t immediately pull certain out-of-bounds items, it is often not (as people sometimes assume) that we approve of them, but simply that no one has told us of their existence.

57 posted on 08/01/2007 4:28:59 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: kristinn

1...a poorly stated comment which was in answer to something we can not evaluate? No excuse for the wording.
How many people read the entry and how many abuse buttons were pushed?

2...a statement taken out of context which changed the meaning. No one was offended enough to complain?

3...a statement which is a total fabrication.

Are these the statements about Free Republic which caused such a stir?

If this is the truth behind O’Reilly’s charges then I believe he has some other motive. I guess I believed that anyway!


58 posted on 08/01/2007 4:30:07 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: silentknight

Duuude, try the decaf.

Why don’t you come forth with some links to prove your accusations? Or are we gonna get more out-of-context crickets?


59 posted on 08/01/2007 4:30:14 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
No link for the "I hate Blacks" comment.
As I posted elsewhere, one POSSIBLE "I Hate Blacks" article, as well as other -- more recent -- occurrences of that disgusting phrase...
...can be found through a Google "site search" for "I hate blacks" -- as posted on Free Republic HERE:

www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Awww.freerepublic.com+%22%2BI+hate+blacks%22

Note that this search is NOT exhaustive, and also that the results found change OFTEN.

In EVERY instance, that phrase was either attacked as foolish and/or inflammatory -- or DELETED.

60 posted on 08/01/2007 4:30:22 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: kristinn; RaceBannon

Why FReeRepublic, and Why Now? I don’t understand this unless it is a preemptive strike against Conservative voters.


61 posted on 08/01/2007 4:30:24 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: CT

Considering the swiftness with which offensive posts get removed (I got a well-deserved 3-day for a “wishful think” about Michael Schaivo), I’m willing to bet the posts were screen saves that KKKosKidz sent to O’Reilly.

And I’m sorry - but since when do we look to the Bloviator to be the final arbiter on “hate” sites - especially when he’s now apparently carrying water for CAIR?


62 posted on 08/01/2007 4:31:07 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: kristinn
What can I say...the Bush Haters ... turn about is fair play...those comments should always be deleted. I mean he is the President of the United States.

Over all, we are self policing.

63 posted on 08/01/2007 4:31:57 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: kristinn

first of all...I was taken aback by how good looking you are, so the interview wasn’t a whole waste.

I am surprised at BOR not getting the “dogs at the manger” comment having been a high school teacher and all that. Besides the fact that the comment he attributed to FR didn’t actually exist.


64 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:00 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: silentknight
Sorry but Free Republic is full of disgusting comments.

Please provide links.

65 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:07 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: kristinn

Earlier this evening, I received an anti-semitic comment in a response to one of my snarky posts. By the time I was able to deplore the anti-semitic comment, it had been removed by a moderator. That sort of speedy zotting of obviously inappropriate content is by far the norm on FR, and for O’Reilly to even suggest otherwise is a gross distortion of the facts.


66 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:11 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Admin Moderator
I would like to see one of those paid moderators try to keep up with a 24 Thread. I have a hard time posting, and keeping up with it. I alway miss at least a dozen comments between posts.
67 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:17 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: silentknight

I don’t believe you.

There are some below standard comments to be sure, but most commentary here is insightful and people learn from it.

If you truly patronize the site on more than a very occasional basis you would know that.

And not try and smear all of us as being part and parcel w/ DUh, HuffPo or Kossacks. I really do not appreciate that.


68 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:21 PM PDT by sauropod (Dorothy Parker, on Ernest Hemingway: “Deep down, he’s really superficial.”)
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To: kristinn
The Story of the Dog in the Manger
69 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:40 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Can I cast the second stone?)
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To: silentknight

BOR, is that you??!!!


70 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:59 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (If Rudy is the GOP's guy, I'm voting for Hillary. Hey, why do anything half ass?)
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To: kristinn

“If you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.”

They had to dig, and dig hard, to find any kinds of offensive comments. O’Reilly waved several sheets of paper as if this was typical. In reality, they didn’t have much more than these miserable excuses for a case against FR, and were bluffing. I’m positive that your appearance on Fox was dependent on whether or not some paid O’Reilly lackeys could dig anything up. It was probably a tough call as to whether or not they actually had enough of a case to take you on.

Give me a break.


71 posted on 08/01/2007 4:33:08 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not neccessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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To: Little Bill

Because FR got bigger ratings on Alexis than did BORE’s website and he wishes he was more popular so he’s gonna go outside and eat some worms.


72 posted on 08/01/2007 4:33:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Jim Robinson; kristinn

FACT: O’Reilly lied.

The information provided by Fox News did in NO way prove “hate”, if anything it exonerated us.

When does Bill apologize?

What is the next move?


73 posted on 08/01/2007 4:33:30 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: A message

AGREE!

ON THE PRAY FOR THE PRESIDENT THREAD,MYSELF AND THE OTHER PRAYER LEADERS CONSTANTLY CLEAN THE AISLES.

ALSO CONCERNING B.O.,I’LL MAKE LITTLE COMMENT OTHER THAT HE IS EVIDENTLY A SELF SERVING MEDIA HACK.

PRAYERS FOR YOU AND YOUR’S!


74 posted on 08/01/2007 4:33:36 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: #1CTYankee

Hatred is a good thing to have. It’s a wonderful motivator. I’m proud to say that I hate a number of things: I hate what is happening to our nation when freedom of speech is stripped away by whining people who use worse against us.

I agree that civility is a good thing, but there is...

“A time to cast away stones
A time to gather stones together”

and

“A time for love
A time for hate”

I hope I don’t get banned for this; but I’m so tired of having to “play by the rules” while others abuse us outside of the rule book.


75 posted on 08/01/2007 4:33:42 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: silentknight

It’s up to the good posters like you and I to report the crap to the mods. Posthaste.


76 posted on 08/01/2007 4:34:47 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not neccessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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To: Admin Moderator

Suggestion. Can someone install a filter that does not REMOVE comments which might be offensive, but which can automatically detects certain keywords that are known to be offensive, and can automatically flag these for moderator review?


77 posted on 08/01/2007 4:35:59 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not neccessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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To: Right Cal Gal
I got a well-deserved 3-day for a “wishful think” about Michael Schaivo),

My parish priest gave me 3 Our Fathers and 3 Hail Marys for wishing a stray lightning bolt send Schiavo a message. I think my priest was sympathetic for my feeling but I still paid.

78 posted on 08/01/2007 4:36:17 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: rineaux
"had his nitwit producers come on FR and engage and bait freepers"

Kinda like Paul supporters that some freepers like myself believe some are DU and Kos plants. I would say that is more believable than BOR producers doing it. Not that I am defending BOR because I am not. BOR piece was poorly researched regarding FR IMO.
79 posted on 08/01/2007 4:36:29 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: mware

‘24’ - do you mean the show ‘24’??

That suggests how vast this site is in content and variety of threads - I’ve been here since summer of 2001 (registered since Sept. 6 2001) and I was not even aware there’d ever been a ‘24’ thread, never mind many of them. Never seen any of them. There are vast numbers of niches and sub-sets of FR created and followed by afficionados of various subjects — it would take a huge cast of moderators to keep up with it all.


80 posted on 08/01/2007 4:36:56 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Eddie01
"FACT: O’Reilly lied."

He sure did. He lied and threw FR under the bus in order to make himself look fair and balanced. I wonder what else he lies about?

81 posted on 08/01/2007 4:37:36 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: Enchante

Yeap I mean the tv show 24. That is one fast moving thread.


82 posted on 08/01/2007 4:38:25 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
This is NOT the same as calling homosexuals dogs.

No, you call homosexual dogs like this: "Here, Fluffy! Here, Fluffy!" to your pit bull in a pink tutu.

TS
"Face it, Stan. Your dog is a gay homosexual."

83 posted on 08/01/2007 4:38:31 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: silentknight
I post on here from time to time but I find a large number of people to be extremely hateful. Obscene comments that should never be made are made in almost every thread...Sorry but Free Republic is full of disgusting comments.

Again, please provide links.

84 posted on 08/01/2007 4:38:39 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I’m sure O’Reilly will come out with a retraction and apology, tonight. :^)


85 posted on 08/01/2007 4:39:48 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: joebuck
I wonder what else he lies about?

Indeed...BOR, might want to have a talk with that one journalist, Dan Rather, might change his latent investigative ways

86 posted on 08/01/2007 4:40:08 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (If Rudy is the GOP's guy, I'm voting for Hillary. Hey, why do anything half ass?)
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To: mware
I would like to see one of those paid moderators try to keep up with a 24 Thread. I have a hard time posting, and keeping up with it. I alway miss at least a dozen comments between posts.

OH THE DRAMA!!!! :-)

87 posted on 08/01/2007 4:40:10 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Bill O'Reilly is a pinhead.)
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To: Enchante

The OFFICIAL weekly “24” Season 5 Live thread!

Posted by OXENinFLA
On General/Chat 01/12/2006 10:03:24 AM EST · 12,896 replies · 184,127+ views


88 posted on 08/01/2007 4:40:34 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: jrooney

“Is it necessary to be a smart ass on a serious topic FR is trying to address?”

It is necessary to refuse to accept a false accusation. The writer did not speak of assassination; he spoke of a “stray bullet.”


89 posted on 08/01/2007 4:40:48 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: SteveMcKing
Most extreme posts are probably trolls anyway.

Not from what I've seen. The extreme posts have been from frustrated long-timers when they get fed up hearing opinions other than their own.

For example, I tried to tell someone that you can't tell if someone is an illegal alien just by looking at them, and a crowd of freepers descended on me immediately that they had been around them enough to tell which people were illegals when they saw them....as if there's some kind of makring you get when you become a naturalized citizen. Nuts!

The AM's recognized, like I was trying to explain, that that kind of idiocy makes us all look bad. And yet, the particular posters still to this day don't get it and think I accused them of racism.

They throw what can only be called the "don't call me a racist" card, which is as illogical and irrational as any other JEsse Jackson race card.

90 posted on 08/01/2007 4:41:27 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ishabibble

Bill was doing moral equivalency for the sake of marketing himself; it was cheap shot not based in fact. To protest him, I’ll just turn off his shows.


91 posted on 08/01/2007 4:41:45 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats have plenty of patience for anti-American dictators but none for Iraqi democrats.)
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To: kristinn
How interesting that (Harvard educated) Mr. O' Reilly doesn't know about Aesop's "Dog in the manger" fable...

A DOG looking out for its afternoon nap jumped into the Manger of an Ox and lay there cosily upon the straw. But soon the Ox, returning from its afternoon work, came up to the Manger and wanted to eat some of the straw. The Dog in a rage, being awakened from its slumber, stood up and barked at the Ox, and whenever it came near attempted to bite it. At last the Ox had to give up the hope of getting at the straw, and went away muttering:

“AH, PEOPLE OFTEN GRUDGE OTHERS WHAT THEY CANNOT ENJOY THEMSELVES.”

Switching gears, slightly.

Every so often, we here at Free Republic all see posts that have been removed by the moderator. Generally, these are followed by sincere posts that (what ever was written) was uncalled for, and needs to be removed.

I confess to a bit of difficulty trying to figure out Mr. O' Reilly's malignant, and overstated characterization of this forum.

Is O'Reilly going for some "street cred" here? He gets somewhat testy when folks call him a conservative (and he's not a conservative, and that's fine). Is this some sort of "firing for effect" to show he's an independent?

Could this be jelousy? This is a vibrant, active (and diverse, within the context of our fairly large conservative tent) forum. We enjoy some political "juice", evidenced by such things as the online exposure of Dan-the-forger, and some impressive solidarity re the amnesty-for-illegal-alien bill (call it what you want). This forum will have its say in the nomination of the GOP candidate for President.

I, for one Freeper, enjoy watching O' Reilly from time-to-time. I have not, however, gotten past his shameful treatment of John O'Neill and the brave way he and his fellow Navy swiftboat veterans presented the important truths about John Kerry's wartime hoaxes.

92 posted on 08/01/2007 4:42:08 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: mware

No kidding. I was hoping one night to get on and post with everyone while the show was on on the WC but all y’all are way way too fast!!


93 posted on 08/01/2007 4:42:39 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: silentknight

-—Sorry but Free Republic is full of disgusting comments. The mods may do a good job at keeping trolls out but they should don’t care what a lot of the regular posts say.-—

Well, gee, I’m sure we’ll all try very hard to only say things that are pleasing to you!


94 posted on 08/01/2007 4:43:43 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: CT
And that is not one of those 'my best friends are black' statements.

What's wrong with saying 'my best friends are black'?

Is that not allowed now too?

95 posted on 08/01/2007 4:44:16 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: silentknight

You post what could be the most damning allegations to date I have ever see regarding Free Republic without providing a shread of evidence.

An action no real freeper can respect. So what’s up with the self loathing, the attempt to sabotage your own character in broad daylight on this forum?

Why are you even here if this forum disagrees with you?


96 posted on 08/01/2007 4:44:47 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: kristinn
Seems to me that all three “examples” ranged from somewhat bogus to total lie. BOR needs to set the record straight - no bloviating, and make it pithy.

Somehow though, I don’t see BOR as the type of person who can admit “mistakes”, at least not without some prodding.

97 posted on 08/01/2007 4:44:53 PM PDT by khnyny (The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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To: mware

Wow, those numbers are incredible! To think I had no idea we had all these ‘24’ buffs here...... now you may be truly appalled when I say I’ve never even seen the show! (I don’t watch much TV except for documentaries on the History Channel, etc.)


98 posted on 08/01/2007 4:45:06 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: bannie
"I hope I don’t get banned for this; but I’m so tired of having to “play by the rules” while others abuse us outside of the rule book.

The politically correct doesn't fly here, from all the time I've spent here Jim Rob doesn't have a problem with that.

JMO

99 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:06 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: kristinn

In other words, a big fat nothing. O’Reilly really stepped in it this time.


100 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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