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Breaking: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis
KSTP TV 5/ME | 8/1/07 | Me

Posted on 08/01/2007 4:28:27 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

Just turned on the news. 35W bridge collapsed in the Mississippi River. Cars, trucks, semis.....

Fires burning, tanker trucks, at least one school bus, more than ten cars......

Just now breaking.......


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 35w; bridge; bridgecollapse; bridges; btld; collapse; corrosion; engineering; infrastructure; jihad; minneapolis; mosques; mothman; prayerforminnesotans; rust; slownewsday; terroristattack; transportation; twincitiescell
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To: sten

You will also see stuff getting airborne when a concrete road deck shatters because the supports underneath it have given way.


501 posted on 08/01/2007 5:31:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: teawithmisswilliams; angcat
Keeping the Homeland 'secure' obviously means not to panic the public even if it means lying to them.

We are a country at war, they admit there are currently Al Quaeda cells operating in the U.S., so what are they doing, watching American Idol and going to baseball games? Oh I'm sorry that's what we're doing.

502 posted on 08/01/2007 5:31:31 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Terriergal

Don’t know about last week, but this one was closed down to one lane tonight.


503 posted on 08/01/2007 5:31:34 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I pray this isn’t terror as I jusy posted a couple of hours ago, how it felt like the summer before 9/11.


504 posted on 08/01/2007 5:31:45 PM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: wagglebee

There were apparently 30 construction workers on the deck when this happened. IT would have been really tough to place and ignit shape charges.


505 posted on 08/01/2007 5:31:51 PM PDT by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Alouette

i don’t remember.. was the bridge in the movie in the same area? same bridge??


506 posted on 08/01/2007 5:31:56 PM PDT by sten
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

There is an engineer on this thread right now. If you see this post would it be unusual for object to blow up when this bridge collapsed??


507 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:01 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Oh man BTLD! Just came in from a peaceful evening outdoors.

Prayers all the way around. I used to cross that bridge a couple of times a day. Can’t imagine being on there when it colapsed.


508 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:08 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

Do you have a link?


509 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:19 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: DCBryan1

I hope it was only infrastructure, but beware of other “incidents” during the next few hours to be sure....


510 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:43 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Dutch Tulip

Please tell me you are being sarcastic. Please.


511 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:44 PM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: mware
Things were blowing up not down according to the woman in the red car.

Whooooooaaaa.......

512 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:57 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: DrGunsforHands

I’m new to this thread. I just tuned into MSNBC (can’t stant Shep) and they said the construction was resurfacing. Were they doing major construction on the road, or was it just resurfacing? Thanks for any info.


513 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:58 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: angelcindy

If we see something, Homeland Security says something before we can. Wonder the Chertoff Feeling Meter is registering.


514 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:03 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I’m pretty sure it’s the same one. When you’re on this one can you see the cedar ave bridge? I don’t remember being able to see it (in fact never knew it was there).


515 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:18 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: wagglebee
The fact that the piles are intact would seem to indicate that the failure occurred somewhere in the vicinity of a joint where steel members held up a concrete slab. The concrete slab would be supported by steel members, but its rigid form would also provide lateral stability to the steel frame.

Oddly enough, this was the type of structural failure that ultimately caused the collapse of one of the two WTC towers on 9/11.

516 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: null and void

Years ago it was reported that the Chinese were mislabeling lower quality steel as higher grades so it would sell better. They didn’t care what might be effected by this. I wouldn’t doubt when the investigation is complete that they used substandard rivets or other steel in that work on the girders last week.


517 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:22 PM PDT by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
It looks like the bay bridge collapse in 1989.

The Bay Bridge didn't collapse in '89, only a single section on the top level came partially loose.

A section of elevated freeway in Oakland, however, did collapse.

I was there...(in the Bay Area)

518 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Petronski

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/08/new-al-qaeda-we.html

Released on The Blotter an hour ago:

A new al Qaeda propaganda ad, headlined “Wait for the Big Surprise” and featuring a digitally altered photograph of President George Bush and Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf standing in front of a burning White House, was posted on the Internet today.

The brief clip from al Qaeda’s “as Sahab” propaganda arm juxtaposes the doctored photo of Bush and Musharraf along with previously seen images of al Qaeda’s top leadership — Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahri and Adam Gadahn — as well as a photo of an SUV in a motorcade.

There is no additional information provided in the ad, and it closes with the words, “Soon — God willing,” written across the screen and repeated several times.


519 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:26 PM PDT by JoeBrooks
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To: Dutch Tulip

Easy... Step away from the keyboard... And the crack pipe...


520 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Spktyr
Except the pylons are still standing and appear unaffected.

I agree, but it looks like the middle one has disappeared entirely.

Compare it to its twin span running parallel.

Even if the terrorists didn't do it, they'll be tripping all over each other to claim credit for it. Getting credit for something you had to spend no time, money or effort on suits them even better.

521 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:26 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: GRRRRR

You know, I was wondering about those trucks sitting on the ice or if they let them pass carefully, stopping trucks that were not on the ice. They made a very big point in the beginning about trucks not being able to sit on the ice for any length of time or it could cause the ice to collapse.


522 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:31 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: Spruce

Thunderstorms moving in

Just south of there,

http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/local/55901?from=hp_promolocator1&lswe=55901&lwsa=Weather36HourInterstateCommand


523 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:35 PM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Abigail Adams

The bridge that collapsed apparently was not constructed with piers like the one next to it. Nearly a suspension bridge with one large span.


524 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:39 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Soon to be Fredbacker1)
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To: hole_n_one

eyewitness on the news said the river span failed first, pulled down the rest


525 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:39 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“A steel member in a structure is typically designed to accommodate 40% more than its anticipated “dead” load and 70% more than its anticipated “live” load”

That may be what you require as an engineer, but as a steel detailer, I always design each end connections for 75% of the total uniform load. we always go further than what the engineer calls for. You are right this probably wasn’t terrorism, I just didn’t want people to think that traffic isn’t taken into consideration when designing a bridge. Or that crappy material would be used without many levels of checking. The engineers of this country and the AISC using ASD are the best in the world. I just don’t want people loosing faith in engineers.


526 posted on 08/01/2007 5:33:47 PM PDT by Weight of Glory
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To: Solson

Is it just me or do the bus and burning truck seem to be at a sharper angle every time they show them?


527 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:01 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: BunnySlippers
The thing I absolutely hate about channel 5 is their morbid fascination with death.

They are doing a good job with this disaster yes, but they keep wanting a body count ---- kinda like the body counter they had going with the soldiers in Iraq awhile back.

Normally I don't watch channel 5 and let's see how many more times they can ask how many deaths.

528 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:04 PM PDT by coder2
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To: mombonn
Highway 35W North was closed for resurfacing at the time and it was quite hot here today so, it's entirely likely that those were factors and not terrorism. Let's not jump the gun here.

The good news is that there are two or three hospitals within walking distance of this disaster. The Red Cross has a building that actually is within direct view of the disaster.

529 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:07 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Shep said about 20 mins ago or more that Homeland Security said they believe it was NOT terror related.


530 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:16 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Solson

The connection points to the pylons look awfully small. (See the lower right corner.)

531 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:19 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Dutch Tulip

A jackhammer in the wrong place at the wrong time *can* bring down a structure. Resonance *can* destroy a structure - see the Tacoma Narrows disaster.

Witness on Fox says that it wasn’t an explosion that he heard/saw, he saw the long span bend and shatter in the center and give way - the actual support pylons were not involved.


532 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: null and void

I live near Pittsburgh. It has more bridges across the three rivers there than anywhere else in the world. They’ve never collapsed and many are probably a lot older. They are in a cold, snowy area with a lot of freeze-thaw cycles in the winter. This just looks funny to me.


533 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:22 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I am shocked the Twins are playing baseball during this.


534 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:31 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: meyer

Is there a strong curent there? Looks a little like whitewater, that can’t be helpful.


535 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (Famous Quotes: "I have not yet begun to fight!! ...and I'm so terribly exhausted!" --Capt Harry Reid)
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To: dawn53

I’ve been on that bridge recently.

It was surface construction. I’m not aware of any structural work going on.


536 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:35 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: All

Ordinary people doing extra-ordinary things in order to save and help people. Right now.


537 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:42 PM PDT by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Dutch Tulip

Jeez- all these conspiracy theorists. Get a grip... get a life, all of you. You’re making FR a laughing stock to the rest of the world


538 posted on 08/01/2007 5:34:43 PM PDT by NYC Republican (FDT's my first choice, else it's Mitt.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
How incredibly awful.

The cynic in me, remembers all the people in Oklahoma City who saw a "middle-eastern" looking man running from the Alfred P. Murrah building too, but that angle was soon discarded. :o(

539 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:03 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: angelcindy

That article was from 2005.

Stop spreading it.


540 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:10 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: steveo

“sorry, dead weight is much different than live weight. the bridge would have been designed to hold that much dead weight. ROP and if I’m wrong...”

Sure it was. Forty years ago. I said weight plus accumulated metal fatigue and corrosion.


541 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:11 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: Petronski

Thanks, I looked it up too. So they have about an hour of light left. What they call civil twilight ends at 9:14.


542 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:22 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Solson

Not only that, they would need to know where and how to place them which isn’t as easy as it sounds. If terrorists had the means and ability to do this, they would have been able to take down a far more spectacular target.


543 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Disambiguator

Me too - where were you??


544 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:43 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Normal" - Just a cycle on the washing machine - Naomi Judd)
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To: Reaganesque
I will say Minneapolis has some of the best health care in the nation

Lousy politics, but great health care.

545 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:43 PM PDT by coder2
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To: Dutch Tulip

OK, witness is clarifying their statement - witness is describing items in freefall as the bridge collapsed, not explosions.


546 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:53 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Reaganesque

“Highway 35W North was closed for resurfacing at the time and it was quite hot here today so, it’s entirely likely that those were factors and not terrorism.”

Does steel melt at 90 degrees?


547 posted on 08/01/2007 5:35:53 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: JoeBrooks

This is the lady in the red car.


548 posted on 08/01/2007 5:36:02 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware
I don't know what was meant by the term "blow up."

If you mean "explode," I'd say that's unusual (except for the fact that you have one or more fuel trucks involved here).

If you mean "lifted vertically in a sudden manner," I'd say it would not be all that unusual. It looks like one or more sections toppled instead of just collapsing, so the rotation of the slab (toppling motion) could easily lift cars, people, etc. up in the air.

549 posted on 08/01/2007 5:36:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: dawn53

I think it was decking rehab, taking the old concrete out.


550 posted on 08/01/2007 5:36:28 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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