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Rare fossilized cypress trees found in Hungary
Reuters ^ | Tue Jul 31, 9:19 AM ET | U/A

Posted on 08/02/2007 8:29:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks

BUDAPEST (Reuters) - Hungarian scientists said on Tuesday they have discovered a group of fossilized swamp cypress trees preserved from 8 million years ago which could provide clues about the climate of pre-historic times.

Instead of petrifying -- turning to stone -- the wood of 16 Taxodium trees was preserved in an open-cast coal mine allowing geologists to study samples as if they were sections cut from a piece of living wood.

"The importance of the findings is that so many trees got preserved in their original position in one place," Alfred Dulai, geologist at the Hungarian Natural History Museum said.

"But the real rarity about these trees is that ... their original wood got preserved ... they did not turn into stone."

The trees, which stand 4-6 meters tall and 1.5-3 meters in diameter, were found when miners started to remove a deep layer of sand at a mine in the north-eastern village of Bukkabrany to get at deposits of lignite.

The trees date back to the late Miocene geological period at a time when the Carpathian basin -- present day Hungary -- was a freshwater lake surrounded by swamps.

The trees were found on top of the lignite, capturing one of the last moments of these swamps, Dulai said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; coalmine; fossil; fossilizedforest; godsgravesglyphs; hungary; trees

"But the real rarity about these trees is that ... their original wood got preserved ... they did not turn into stone."

1 posted on 08/02/2007 8:29:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks; SunkenCiv; metmom

Fascinating fossilized trees


2 posted on 08/02/2007 8:37:36 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons
http://www.nearctica.com/trees/conifer/tsuga/Tdist.htm

Bald Cypress

(Taxodium distichum)

Native Range: The native range of Bald Cypress extends along the lower Atlantic Coastal Plain from southern Delaware to southern Florida and thence along the lower Gulf Coast Plain to southeastern Texas. Further south Bald Cypress a distinctive population of Bald Cypress ranges throughout most of Mexico. Inland, Bald Cypress grows along the many streams of the middle and upper coastal plains and northward through the Mississippi Valley to southeastern Oklahoma, southeastern Missouri, southern Illinois, and southwestern Indiana. (Silvics of North America. 1990. Agriculture Handbook 654.)

Note: The trees referred to in the posted article are NOT FOSSILIZED.

3 posted on 08/02/2007 8:53:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: indcons

That’s weird looking.


4 posted on 08/02/2007 9:05:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Interesting article...


5 posted on 08/02/2007 9:08:20 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Fred Nerks

8 million year old wood!

What would it sound like if you made a guitar out of it!


6 posted on 08/02/2007 9:11:29 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: metmom; Fred Nerks

More pics, this time of the “Petrified Forest” in Yellowstone: http://www.nps.gov/archive/yell/slidefile/geology/paleontology/Page.htm


7 posted on 08/02/2007 9:17:20 PM PDT by indcons
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To: Fred Nerks

...And here I’ve been bragging about my 7,000 year old wood.


8 posted on 08/02/2007 9:22:54 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: indcons

http://www.ancientkauri.co.nz/index.php/extract_raw_logs/photos_extract_kauri

Reminds me of the New Zealand Swamp Kauri, preserved, estimated to be around 40,000 YO.

Interesting slide show images.


9 posted on 08/02/2007 9:23:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Grizzled Bear
You put Fender on it, I imagine a fortune.
10 posted on 08/02/2007 9:26:08 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Fred Nerks

Wow...how cool is that! This statistic speaks for itself: “Ancient Kauri Kingdom has extracted the largest log ever found - a whopping 23 metres (75’) long, 11.3m (37’) girth, weighing approximately 140 tonnes.”


11 posted on 08/02/2007 9:26:18 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

I’ve been to the one in AZ but the memory is getting foggy these days. It was a long time ago. Pretty interesting stuff.


12 posted on 08/02/2007 9:27:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: blam
...And here I’ve been bragging about my 7,000 year old wood.


Weren’t you supposed to call your doctor after 4 hours?

13 posted on 08/02/2007 9:32:35 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam
...And here I’ve been bragging about my 7,000 year old wood.

IMO your piece of wood has much more chance of being 7,000 YO than the Hungarian find being anywhere NEAR the age it is claimed to be...

btw, I read again recently that the first wood discovered on the Antarctic continent was also UNFOSSILIZED and BURNED as fuel...however, there were no standing trees discovered, they were all snapped off at ground level.

14 posted on 08/02/2007 9:41:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: blam

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050404antarctic-fossil.htm

“...From a catastrophist point of view, there are many questions raised by the Antarctic forest. How accurate is the system by which the trees were dated? Was late Permian really 260 million years ago? Geologists consider this figure accurate, along with the “known” age of the Earth. And it’s all backed by absolute radiometric dating techniques. Fifty years ago, they were equally confident of a different age, and another age fifty years before that. But this time they’re sure they’ve got it right...”


15 posted on 08/02/2007 9:46:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

[rimshot!]

:’D


16 posted on 08/02/2007 9:51:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

a fossilized Nothofagus tree trunk in the Antarctic.

17 posted on 08/02/2007 10:11:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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My husband was working the farm field last Spring (which necessitates lots of stopping to pick up large rocks that were heaved up over the winter).

He found a particularly large "rock"; had to go get the loader to dig it out...it was a very LARGE 4-ft long, 2+ ft. dia. part of a petrified tree trunk. He moved it to a safe place for storage..not sure if I should sell it or put it in the garden.

18 posted on 08/02/2007 10:29:19 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: garandgal

that’s bound to be one of many more...you may have a treasure-trove buried on your farm.

Images from Petrified Forest National Park:

http://www.terragalleria.com/parks/np.petrified-forest.all.html


19 posted on 08/02/2007 10:52:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

A fossil tree trunk in the Lybian Desert?

http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/libya/Sud_libyen_pg01.html

And in Argentina:

http://www.australaddr.com/patagonia/petrified_forests.htm

On the island of Lesvos:

http://www.windmillstravel.com/article.php?id=146&destination=17&destinationtype=island


20 posted on 08/02/2007 11:08:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
that’s bound to be one of many more...you may have a treasure-trove buried on your farm.

Thanks for the link; I remember going to the "petrified forest" in SD as a kid. Our area was apparently once covered by glaciers; then was a marshy area; until it was drained and became farmland.

As for the "treasure-trove"...we are in a very rare drought...we may have to start "farming" for petrified wood; as the corn crop is looking particularly hideous.

21 posted on 08/02/2007 11:47:43 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: garandgal

I Googled ‘buy petrified wood’ and look what came up:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-06,RNWE:en&q=buy+petrified+wood


22 posted on 08/03/2007 12:00:01 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: garandgal

http://www.nature-source.com/wood.htm

$39 for a 5 inch slice!


23 posted on 08/03/2007 12:06:19 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for the links...I'll have to show the husband. He, who dreads picking up rocks, may finally have an incentive, LOL!

OTOH, he may decide to spend the winter excavating. Ours really looks like those in the photos; a little more worn around the edges, as though by water over the years.

When he told me he found a large petrified log, I admit to being a bit skeptical. But, when I saw it...it's there bark, tree rings and all...it's just gorgeous.

24 posted on 08/03/2007 12:38:41 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: Fred Nerks

Would it not mean that 8 million years ago the climate their was much warmer....does that mean we are actually in the midst of global cooling??????

OH NO, WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE....


25 posted on 08/03/2007 5:03:52 AM PDT by never4get
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Thanks Fred Nerks, indcons, and TXnMA.
 
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26 posted on 08/03/2007 5:10:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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27 posted on 08/03/2007 5:11:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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29 posted on 04/07/2010 7:07:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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30 posted on 02/25/2012 6:53:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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