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Pakistan Criticizes Obama on Comments
Fox news ^ | 8-3-07 | edcoil

Posted on 08/03/2007 9:49:21 AM PDT by edcoil

Pakistan criticized U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday for saying that, if elected, he might order unilateral military strikes against terrorists hiding in this Islamic country.

Top Pakistan officials said Obama's comment was irresponsible and likely made for political gain in the race for the Democratic nomination.

"It's a very irresponsible statement, that's all I can say," Pakistan's Foreign Minister Khusheed Kasuri told AP Television News. "As the election campaign in America is heating up we would not like American candidates to fight their elections and contest elections at our expense."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flagburning; obama; oldglory; pakistan
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1 posted on 08/03/2007 9:49:27 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: edcoil

What a worthless, stupid idiot.


2 posted on 08/03/2007 9:52:49 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: edcoil
"As the election campaign in America is heating up we would not like American candidates to fight their elections and contest elections at our expense."

Ouch!

3 posted on 08/03/2007 9:55:09 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: edcoil

lol. Guess this puts Obama in the Sunni camp.


4 posted on 08/03/2007 9:55:31 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: edcoil

Let’s see.

He’s insulted Australia.

He’s insulted families of military personnel.

Now he insults Pakistan.

Is there anything else that I’ve missed?


5 posted on 08/03/2007 9:56:10 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: pissant

Maybe not entirely worthless. It’s good to have these idiots open their mouths and let the excrement roll out sometimes. Gives people who are ‘on the fence’ something to consider at election time.


6 posted on 08/03/2007 9:56:24 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: edcoil
I hate to say it but it looks like Hillary was right.

naive

One entry found for naive.
Main Entry: na·ive
Variant(s): or na·ïve /nä-'Ev, nI-/
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): na·iv·er; -est
Etymology: French naïve, feminine of naïf, from Old French, inborn, natural, from Latin nativus native
1 : marked by unaffected simplicity : ARTLESS, INGENUOUS
2 a : deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment; especially : CREDULOUS b : not previously subjected to experimentation or a particular experimental situation <made the test with naive rats>; also : not having previously used a particular drug (as marijuana) c : not having been exposed previously to an antigen <naive T cells>
3 a : SELF-TAUGHT, PRIMITIVE b : produced by or as if by a self-taught artist <naive murals>
synonym see NATURAL
- na·ive·ly or na·ïve·ly adverb
- na·ive·ness noun
7 posted on 08/03/2007 9:57:39 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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To: edcoil
Obama is about as useless as t*ts on a boar hog, and about as dumb. This guy has zero credibilty for the job he now holds, let alone President.

His no-nuke statement was about as assinine as they come.

8 posted on 08/03/2007 9:58:18 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: edcoil

I’m no Obama fan by any means but you can’t blame him because the entire population of pakistan has diminished capacity.


9 posted on 08/03/2007 9:59:39 AM PDT by Pajama Blogger (Pajama Power)
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To: edcoil

It will be interesting to see if Barack puts on his “sorry face” and comes begging for forgiveness. He seems to have very thin skin and always tries to immediately compensate for his latest flub. I bet he tries to “open dialogue” with the Pakistanis, or some other such nonsense.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 10:05:59 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: edcoil

More business for the Chinese American flag makers.


11 posted on 08/03/2007 10:07:13 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Pajama Blogger
I’m no Obama fan by any means but you can’t blame him because the entire population of pakistan has diminished capacity.

He should be smart enough to know that. He has needlessly inflamed a delicate situation. He's running for president in wartime, and is supposed to be aware of how his comments will be perceived by our allies and enemies.

12 posted on 08/03/2007 10:10:06 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Pajama Blogger

So too, one would now thing, does the population of Illinois!

Barack Osama bin Laden strikes again! Hillary is smiling.
She will have the nom sewed up by March 1 at the latest.

I don’t know who is more stupid: Dem politicians or those
that vote for them!

MV


13 posted on 08/03/2007 10:11:08 AM PDT by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: madvlad

Hillary’s from Illinois too :( Will our state ever be a happy place again ~~ sigh!


14 posted on 08/03/2007 10:23:16 AM PDT by JenBrower (...government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Missed Human race.


15 posted on 08/03/2007 10:25:08 AM PDT by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: edcoil

Obama’s an idiot, but he shouldn’t be blamed for the misbehavior of some Islamofascists.


16 posted on 08/03/2007 10:25:17 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Confidence in Congress has hit an all-time low of 14%)
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To: edcoil

****ing moron.

I want to see the same abuse directed against Obama that was directed against Tom Tancredo for his stupid nuke-Mecca statement last year.

This is a major, MAJOR story that the MSM is covering up.


17 posted on 08/03/2007 10:26:08 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: BlessedBeGod

what did he say about australia?


18 posted on 08/03/2007 10:41:08 AM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Post-Neolithic

yeah, but he got all a’s in speech class


19 posted on 08/03/2007 10:42:12 AM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: edcoil

way to go obama, lol!


20 posted on 08/03/2007 11:20:19 AM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: edcoil

But I thought one of the Democrat’s top priorities was to make everybody love the USA again. He must have been misquoted. /s


21 posted on 08/03/2007 12:05:36 PM PDT by philled (The Democrat's 'vision' for Iraq looks a lot like Pol Pot wearing a turban...)
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To: Taffini
Here are some FR threads with articles that explain and comment on it better than I could. Be sure to go the the NY Post at the link in the first thread to read the whole article (the excerpt doesn't really say much).

Barack's Blunder ..... ("not ready for prime time")

Obama to Howard: Chickenhawk!

PM Howard is right on Obama

The Audacity of Obama

22 posted on 08/04/2007 9:06:23 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: edcoil
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23 posted on 08/05/2007 12:58:09 AM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: edcoil; pissant; The Blitherer; BlessedBeGod; kinoxi; ladtx; Post-Neolithic; Pajama Blogger; ...
Incoming - Long Rant

I've been thinking long and hard how to write this - so here goes. Obama... well he is a poser and we all know it but he shed the light on something that needs to be exposed.

So what if the Pakistanis are upset. I for one could care less about these reprobates who are intent to live in a perpetual state of anger at the West.

Today it is Obama - yesterday it was Islamic cartoons and the day before it was disrespect for the Quran - It's always going to be something with these animals. There is no appeasing them. Never.

I don't like Obama - never have, he is a Socialist just like Hillary and to be honest he does not have a chance at being the POTUS. Case Closed. But he is right in what he said about Pakistan and Musharraf and I'm not going to turn on Obama and call him an idiot for proposing what needs to be done - even if I doubt he has the courage to follow through.

THE ACCOMMODATION AND APPEASEMENT OF PAKISTAN MUST STOP!

Lets get something straight - Musharraf is NOT our friend - He is NOT our ally - He is and has always been a brutal military dictator and since 9/11 he has been a cunning opportunist who has duped the United States out of over a BILLION dollars in AID for which he has contributed jack all. He does not move against Al Qaeda or the terrorists in his country unless they threaten him personally - and when he does decide to act it is always after we push him to act. Never on his own. He plays a game with the United States by telling us that he needs $$$ to go after the FOREIGN terrorists (the homegrown Pakistani Al Qaeda and Taliban are basically off limits to us - any of you are welcome to confirm this with the clowns at foggy bottom) - then he tells us that he needs more $$$ for education and for whatever - Currently over US150 Million is unaccounted for of the $$$ that we have given this extortionist.

His own foreign minister had the audacity to THREATEN the United States a few days ago on national television - Did you miss it? Did you miss him warning the US not to make them angry? (the video link is on the front page of my blog)

Oh but the threats from Pakistan are not new - Pervez Musharraf has THREATENED us as well - Claiming that America will be BROUGHT TO IT'S KNEES without him. This is the reprobate that our commander and chief has the audacity to call our friend and ally.

Musharraf feels free to extort from us an threaten us with impunity because he has nuclear weapons - which he is always willing to remind us of should we dare cross him or refuse to hand over our "lunch money". So what happens when we dont fork over our lunch money to Musharraf?

"OMG those pesky Al Qaeda and Taliban guys I can't control them!"

And what has President Bush done?

Remember this ---

"...And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation in every region now has a decision to make: Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists ... From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."

President George Bush - 21 September 2001

Not only has Musharraf been supporting them - he has signed peace treaties with Al Qaeda and Taliban - which basically say - you are free to go after the USA as long as you leave Pakistan alone. This is our friend and ally??

Our policy with Pakistan and Pervez Musharraf is one of accommodation and appeasement. A policy that history has shown leads to disaster.

I grew up in a different time - a time when the size of our adversary did not intimidate us - a time when our President had the courage, foresight and resolve to know that accommodation and appeasement can only lead to disaster. A man who if he was alive today would be saying --

"If you and I have the courage to tell our elected officials that we want our national policy based upon what we know in our hearts is morally right. We cannot buy our security, our freedom from the threat of Islamic fascism by committing an immorality so great as saying to millions of Americans now being forced to accommodate in the name of diversity, "Give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skin, we are willing to make a deal with your new slave masters." Alexander Hamilton said, "A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." Let's set the record straight. There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace--and you can have it in the next second--surrender.

Reagan didn't threaten to bomb a mosque or a religious site - no much worse - he threatened to turn an entire country into a glass parking lot - and the world believed him!! We lived a policy of MAD (mutually assured destruction). It served as a deterrent.

Tancredo asks "What deterrent do we have now?" - and the answer is none - we don't have a deterrent because our policy of accommodation and appeasement does not call for one.

So we are all just sitting here - keyboard commandos waiting for the next big attack - we know it is coming - everyone does and we have absolutely no way to stop it. Oh we can hopefully catch them before they turn a few cities into a radioactive fireballs - but at the end of the day, they just have to succeed once whereas we have to always succeed. The day is coming and we have all just resigned ourselves to the fact.

Let me guess though. Once 4 or 5 cities are turned into nuclear fireballs then we will finally be able to shake ourselves free from the chains of political correctness and the malaise and strike back with full vengeance. Our retaliation will of course be pathetic - like a wounded tiger in a cage of his own making. Reactive never proactive.

Bomb Mecca? OMG that is completely out of the question - Never Never Never (of course we might consider it after we lose a few cities).

Why is it out of the question? Why should anything be out of the question? Crazy? maybe. Will it work? Possibly. Is it better than a policy of accommodation and appeasement - Definitely Yes.

One of our biggest problems since 9/11 has been how to get the so-called moderates to turn on the extremists in their midst. Our message though has not been clear. Our State Department dons 'makeshift hijabs', attends mosque openings and is constantly proclaiming Islam to be a religion of peace.

It is clearly a policy of appeasement. We accommodate and appease who we think are the "good muslims" hoping that they in turn will somehow come to repay us for our benevolence by turning against the extremists in their midst. There are a few instances of success, but overall the results have failed and they will continue to fail. It's not that these people don't know who they extremists are. They know fully who they are but their loyalties are divided and instead of turning in the extremists, they shelter them.

The solution is lies not in accommodation and appeasement, but in collective punishment.

Reagan's "ace in the hole" was that he never let our adversaries know what he would do unlike our nation's leadership today. Reagan didn't have to nuke a nation - but the option was always on the table and our adversaries believed that he would do it. There was no mixed signals. The message was crystal clear.

In many ways it is like we are playing a high stakes game of poker with Al Qaeda and yet, like an idiot, we keep showing all of our cards. Al Qaeda knows what we will and won't do - but we never know what they will do. If you are a fan of Sun-Tzu's "Art of War" then you might come to the conclusion that we are fighting a losing battle - well... we are. This isn't about not being patriotic or not supporting the troops - it is about common sense and logic.

Lets face it. We are on the defense always - we take one step forward and two steps backwards every single time - we are not going to win this war being perpetually afraid to offend anyone and employing a policy of accommodation and appeasement. Give it up.

No one walked around in the 70's with their finger in their butt mumbling about a "War on Collectivism" and with our State Department going on high alert issuing profound apologies whenever someone decided to take a dump on Lenin's Book of Marx. We knew who the enemy was and we were not afraid to name them regardless of the danger to ourselves and regardless to the size of our enemy.

I'm so disgusted whenever I listen to the whining about "oh but we dont want to piss off a billion peaceful muslims worldwide" ~~ the "peaceful muslims" already have you on your knees building them special "foot basins" and prayer rooms in public buildings and for those of you who dare to resist -- you are immediately sent off to the gulags of diversity for mandatory "sensitivity training" conducted by the CAIR bully-boys.

But as long as they don't hurt you right? I mean better red than dead.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

24 posted on 08/05/2007 3:48:34 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: BlessedBeGod

Yup — he insults the office held by George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Ronald Reagan with his arrogance.


25 posted on 08/05/2007 4:45:48 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: expatguy

Good rant!


26 posted on 08/05/2007 5:13:18 AM PDT by Don Carlos (No 8 Do)
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To: Beckwith

Probably booking another appearance on Opra about now.


27 posted on 08/05/2007 5:14:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Pajama Blogger
"I’m no Obama fan by any means but you can’t blame him because the entire population of pakistan has diminished capacity."

What???? How can you blame Pakistan one bit? How would America act, indeed, how would we at FR react, if a candidate of some other country said they would invade America if elected? I think their response was rational and quite predictable if Hussain Obama had bothered to think it through.

28 posted on 08/05/2007 5:26:09 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: expatguy; FARS; DAVEY CROCKETT; Rushmore Rocks; CarolinaGOP; Founding Father; milford421; ...

Expatguy has put his finger on a bunch of sore points, in his
“Rant”, in post 24.

It is well worth reading and thinking about, it is clear and to the point, on dealing with Pakistan.


29 posted on 08/05/2007 5:28:23 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: Don Carlos

I could have cleaned it up - but I think a few of my points made it through.


30 posted on 08/05/2007 5:55:19 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: madvlad; All

I’m from Illinois and I didn’t voted for him.. I voted for Alan “The Huckster” Keyes...


31 posted on 08/05/2007 5:58:04 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: Pajama Blogger

the entire population of pakistan has diminished capacity.

?


32 posted on 08/05/2007 6:15:55 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
Good morning.

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have typed this...

Barak Hussein's ears look like the open doors of a '69 Mustang.

5.56mm

33 posted on 08/05/2007 6:24:13 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

“Good morning”

I’m going to reserve judgement. So far it’s been good. but you never know when “They” will strike.

“Barak Hussein’s ears look like the open doors of a ‘69 Mustang.”

convertible or hardtop?


34 posted on 08/05/2007 7:07:53 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: edcoil

This is exactly why politics is supposed to stop at the water’s edge.

Democrats thrive on completely fouling things up, to put it mildly.


35 posted on 08/05/2007 7:19:01 AM PDT by P.O.E. (School's Out. Drive Safely)
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To: expatguy
You make valid points against appeasement. I don't agree with it in most cases (when it doesn't serve our temporary interests). The problem is with Obama saying it. This was no call to action. He was not putting Pakistan on notice. He was running his mouth and everyone knows it. This type of idle threat does more damage to American credibility than no threat at all IMO. It's the clown who made the comments, not the comments themselves.
36 posted on 08/05/2007 7:31:15 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Uncle Miltie
Obama’s an idiot, but he shouldn’t be blamed for the misbehavior of some Islamofascists.

Islamofascists certainly don't have a hard time finding reasons to be offended and express their outrage/hatred. It's what they do, and who they are.

37 posted on 08/05/2007 8:04:14 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: expatguy

Concur completely, expatguy. Excellent post.


38 posted on 08/05/2007 8:06:06 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: expatguy; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado
Thanks expatguy... good going.



>A small footnote about the myth of 1.(Whatever) billion muslims - I never bought into that RoP propaganda, and am so sick of hearing that figure being tossed around, even here on FReep, as if was a well documented and researched fact.

39 posted on 08/05/2007 8:28:18 AM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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40 posted on 08/05/2007 1:58:24 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: edcoil
Pakistan burning American flags thanks to Obama's big mouth

Mo mention of Pakis burning American flags in the article. Nor was that the title of the article you posted. There is a rule here that you use the same title as used in your source. That's to avoid duplicate threads.

Having said that, I agree with you about Obama's big mouth. But I think any jerk in Pakistan who may be burning American flags would have been doing it regardless of Obama or Tancredo.

41 posted on 08/05/2007 7:53:20 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: edcoil

What I find totally preposterous is the notion that Americans - in the post 9/11 era - might actually elect someone named Barack Hussein Obama to the White House.


42 posted on 08/05/2007 8:11:49 PM PDT by Marauder (íViva! Sir Salman)
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To: pissant
What a worthless, stupid idiot.
What a waste of words. Can we all agree to just say -
"Obama".

43 posted on 08/05/2007 8:22:14 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: Maceman
He should be smart enough to know that.

You are assuming waaaaaaaaay too much.


44 posted on 08/05/2007 8:23:51 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: edcoil; Admin Moderator
the correct headline for this article as shown on Fox News is:

Pakistan Criticizes Obama on Comments

45 posted on 08/06/2007 3:35:32 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: KevinDavis

“I’m from Illinois and I didn’t voted for him.”
^^^^^^^^^

You proved my point! :)

MV


46 posted on 08/06/2007 6:55:12 AM PDT by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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