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Wisc. Paper: Neocons Want Petraeus for President? Huh?
NewsBusters.org ^ | 8/3/07 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 08/03/2007 10:21:47 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

It's no wonder that sensible people just shake their heads and wonder what's wrong with the extremists of the far left when they come up with such off the wall nonsense and then try to pass it off as real political analysis. It just makes people who have even the slightest clue about what is really going on in the world double over with laughter. Such is the case with today's comedic attempt at political forecasting by nut in residence Ed Garvey of the Madison, Wisconsin Capital Times.

Columnist Garvey, in true nutroots fashion, thinks he has hit on the perfect Neocon conspiracy. The Neocons don't want any of the current candidates for president. No, sir, they are trying to angle for General Petraeus to take up their Neocon banner!

I know that you're scratching your head wondering how in Heaven's name he came up with this one. I did too.

After dismissing the current crop of Republican candidates, McCain, Romney, Rudy and Thompson, Garvey imagines he spies the Neocons real move: Petareus is the man.

I think the money boys and the neocons have a candidate, and it isn't Fred Thompson, Rudy, John McCain or Ron Paul. In their view, it is time for a president in uniform. It is time for the modern-day Douglas MacArthur. When MacArthur clashed with President Truman over war policy in 1951, with the general wanting to run the risk of engaging China, President Truman did what he had to do. He asserted that under our Constitution, men in suits controlled men in uniforms. He fired the war hero, and the conservatives of that day wanted MacArthur to run for president in 1952. Cooler heads prevailed, and MacArthur faded away.
First of all, Garvey presents the facts of the Constitution as if Truman made them up out of whole cloth just to beat a possible rival candidate as he prepared for reelection. Garvey misses the fact that Truman didn't just "assert" anything about civilian control of military policy. It is a F-A-C-T that civilian government controls the military under the American system. It's a little something called the Constitution of the United States that ordains this arrangement. Not a scrambling president from the 1950s.

Maybe Garvey is more woeful proof of the lack of quality of our educational system?

Next Garvey launches into a litany of warped, untrue and oft times disproven, leftist tropes about this war under the rubric of what he feels is the "danger" we face.

Here is how I see the danger. The Congress will do nothing to punish the administration for lying us into war, taping our phones, humiliating us by use of secret prisons and torture and on and on. There won't be an impeachment or censure because the leaders don't have time both to argue over bridges and highways and to deal with those who have stolen our democracy. The Democrats won't cut the funding for this outrageous occupation, and voters will blame the Democrats for the mess. Millions won't vote, and, with a couple of billion to spend, the neocons will help establish another third party effort, and they win!
Chicken Little strikes again.

And what "danger" does Petraeus present to the country? As far as Garvey is concerned, the report Patraeus will give next month is the danger.

Can this be stopped? Only if people raise the roof over the Petraeus report and demand an end to this suicidal episode. Only if Democrats in Congress take the lead, discard the Petraeus report, and end the funding of the occupation.
Yes, you understand correctly. Not only is Garvey basing his far fetched claims on a report that is over a month in the future, one he knows absolutely noting about what it might contain, but he sees moves by people who have made none... based on a report that no one has seen.

Now, it isn't so amazing that a member of the nutroots is roaming freely about the countryside like this. What is amazing is that the MSM would give such a person a platform with which he could give evidence of his psychosis while at the same time imposing it upon the rest of us.

I haven't seen such an off base, wild eyed, silly excuse for political analysis since Rosie O'Donnell went off into the cold, dark night. I mean, in his off time, this Garvey guy probably stands on the street corners in Madison wearing a sandwich board and shouting unintelligibles through a megaphone while Mothers steer their children to the safety of the other side of the street and as other upstanding citizens walk by trying to avoid making eye contact.

But his rants were good enough for the Capital Times to irresponsibly print.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constitution; generalpetraeus; neocon; neocons; patraeus
This guy is a wacko!! Sadly, he is what passes for a respectable person in Wisconsin!
1 posted on 08/03/2007 10:21:51 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Thats really a good idea!! Petreaus for Prez!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 08/03/2007 10:27:01 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: DirtyPigpen

Why didn’t we think of this ourselves FIRST???


3 posted on 08/03/2007 10:32:41 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Mobile Vulgus
In their view, it is time for a president in uniform.

Hey, wait a minute! Ed has a point here. Petraeus for President! Thanks for the idea Ed!

4 posted on 08/03/2007 10:33:59 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

That would be putting the cart before the horse. In order for a general to get elected President in this country, he’s first got to win a war. Maybe this nonsensical article was thrown out in the hopes that it would prompt the Dems to gang up on Petraeus and get him removed, thereby ensuring defeat in Iraq, and nip in the bud a possible future candidacy by Petraeus for President.

Since the Dems are basically herd animals, I suspect that the Dems will soon start gyrating in hysterics over what a bad job Petraeus is doing.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 10:37:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: DirtyPigpen
He fired the war hero, and the conservatives of that day wanted MacArthur to run for president in 1952. Cooler heads prevailed, and MacArthur faded away.

Uhm... now I went to public schools growing up so I might be wrong on this, but wasn't a retired general elected President in 1952?

7 posted on 08/03/2007 10:46:54 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Nah, not Petareus. Gen. Peter Pace for POTUS!

He would make the moonbats even goofier. They'd go foaming-at-the-mouth apoplectic. Prolly commit mass suicide just at the thought of that 'take mo BS' Marine in the oval office.

Heck, if he even hinted at running Rooty might even stop cross-dressing

8 posted on 08/03/2007 10:47:39 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: DirtyPigpen

It was my understanding that he was closer to the Democrats politically.


9 posted on 08/03/2007 10:49:15 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

One thing you have to remember about Wisconsin: Madison is a Liberal bastion in the Midwest and they certainly do not speak for all Wisconsinites. Only San Francisco rivals Madison for it’s left-leaning wackos. The rest of Wisconsin is much less liberal. In the ‘04 election, Kerry (who served in Vietnam, for those who don’t know it) won the state by a scant 11,000 votes. A recount of Wisconsin was more justified than the one they demanded for Ohio.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 10:51:38 AM PDT by Sulsa (Duncan Hunter in '08!)
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To: DirtyPigpen
I guess I should state that I got that impression that his credentials might be lacking because of liberal military author Rick Atkinson's comment.

In the book In the Company of Soldiers where he said of the General in Iraq during the invasion, as I recall, something like: "Although most officers in the military are conservative, General Petraeus' opinions were nuanced"

11 posted on 08/03/2007 11:00:04 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Garvey doesn't pass for a respectable person in Wisconsin. In Madison, sure, but not in Wisconsin.

He was a visiting professor at The UW Law School when I was a student and I took his Sports Law Seminar as a nice grade point booster. He was the NFL Player's Association President before Gene Upshaw, and his lectures were more an opportunity for him to reminisce than the teaching of law. I believe he runs the "Fighting Bob" website. He's entirely filled with excrement.
12 posted on 08/03/2007 11:37:29 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
"respectable"

Garvey has run for gov several times and has been crushed every time he's ran. He'd only gotten a small percentage of the idiot far-left vote. He's considered nothing more than just a wacko, third-party lefty. I suspect every state has a few.

13 posted on 08/03/2007 3:22:05 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Sulsa
"04 election"

Not to mention the 2000 election where Gore only won by five thousand out of over two million cast. And that number included documented cases of voter fraud in Milwaukee and admissions of complicity by Dem operatives like Carol Millikin or Gilligan of New York. She bragged about passing out smokes to street people in Sudsville to vote Dem.

14 posted on 08/03/2007 3:24:49 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: DirtyPigpen
Thats really a good idea!! Petreaus for Prez!!!!!!!!!

Petraeus needs to win first. And then maybe be president of a major university or such for a while.

15 posted on 08/03/2007 3:29:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: bolobaby

Part of our evil neocon plan was to get HIM to suggest it.

Plausible deniability, etc.


16 posted on 08/03/2007 9:48:07 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: driftless2

The fact that he got ANY votes at all for Gov is a shame!


17 posted on 08/03/2007 10:43:13 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Constantine XIII

Of course, but now that you’ve let the cat out of the bag, the whole scheme is RUINED!

Nice going. Please turn in your sooper sekrit evil conservative decoder ring at the front desk on your way out.


18 posted on 08/04/2007 6:23:48 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

D’oh! XD

Momma always said my mouth was going to get me into trouble.


19 posted on 08/04/2007 11:51:04 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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