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Gingrich says war on terror "phony"
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^

Posted on 08/03/2007 12:48:30 PM PDT by AfterManyASummer

Gingrich says war on terror 'phony' Former speaker says energy independence is key

By BOB DEANS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 08/03/07

Washington — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.

A more effective approach, said Gingrich, would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil and some of the regimes that petro-dollars support. • More Nation/World news

"None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students attending a conference for collegiate conservatives.

Gingrich, who led the so-called Republican Revolution that won the GOP control of both houses of Congress in 1994 midterm elections, said more must be done to marshal national resources to combat Islamic militants at home and abroad and to prepare the country for future attack. He was unstinting in his criticism of his fellow Republicans, in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. "I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."

Thursday's National Conservative Student Conference was sponsored by the Young America's Foundation, a Herndon, Va.-based group founded in the 1960s as a political counterpoint to the left-leaning activists who coalesced around the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War.

Gingrich retains strong support among conservatives and ranked fifth among possible Republican nominees behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, with the backing of 7 percent of those queried in a ABC News/Washington Post poll taken last week. The poll surveyed 403 Republicans and Republican-leaning adults nationwide and has a 5 percentage-point margin of error.

"I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth ... about the failures of the performance of Republicans ... failed bureaucracies ... about how dangerous the world is," he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.

Gingrich has been promoting a weekly political newsletter he calls "Winning the Future." It's available free to those who leave their e-mail addresses at

www.winningthefuture

.net, one of several Web sites he is connected with or operating. Gingrich began writing the newsletter in April 2006, and it now goes out to 311,000 readers each week, said Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler.

Political salon

At another Web site — www.americansolutions

.com — Gingrich is running a virtual political salon, with video clips, organizational information and contacts revolving around his conservative vision for the country's future. It asks supporters to join in an Internet "Solutions Day" on Sept. 27, the anniversary of Gingrich's so-called Contract With America, a slate of conservative policies he led through Congress as speaker of the House a decade and a half ago.

"What I'm trying to start is a new dialogue that is evidence-based," Gingrich said Thursday. "It doesn't start from the right wing, it doesn't start from the left wing," he said, but is an effort to get politicians and voters to "look honestly at the evidence of what isn't working and tell us how to change it."

Gingrich was interrupted with applause once, when he called for an end to the biting partisanship critics say has polarized national politics and paralyzed the workings of government.

"We have got to get past this partisan baloney, where I'm not allowed to say anything good about Hillary Clinton because 'I'm not a loyal Republican,' and she's not allowed to say anything good about me, or she's not a 'loyal' Democrat. What a stupid way to run a country."

He reserved his most pointed criticism for the administration's handling of the global campaign against terrorist groups.

"We've been engaged in a phony war," said Gingrich. "The only people who have been taking this seriously are the combat military."

His remarks seemed to reflect, in part, the findings of a National Intelligence Estimate made public last month.

In the estimate, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that six years of U.S. efforts to degrade the al-Qaida terrorist group had left the organization constrained but still potent, having "protected or regenerated" the capability to attack the United States in ways that have left the country "in a heightened threat environment."

"We have to take this seriously," said Gingrich.

"We used to be a serious country. When we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany," he said, referring to World War II.

"We beat all three in less than four years. We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing."

Successful approach

Gingrich said he would lay out in a Sept. 10 speech what a successful U.S. approach to this threat would have looked like over the past six years.

"First of all, we have to have a national energy strategy, which basically says to the Saudis, 'We're not going to rely on you,' " he said.

The United States imports about 14 million barrels of oil a day, making up two-thirds of its total consumption.


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I'm a big fan of Newt Gingrich, but it seems that he's simply using stupidly hyperbolic language here to get some publicity for his potential run.
1 posted on 08/03/2007 12:48:32 PM PDT by AfterManyASummer
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To: AfterManyASummer

Yeah, I’m starting to lose patience with Newt. Looks like he’s banging whatever drum he thinks he needs to bang to get attention on him.


2 posted on 08/03/2007 12:49:58 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: AfterManyASummer
would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil and some of the regimes that petro-dollars support

Newt needs to get out more. This has been the President's plan for years. I've even heard Newt speak about it before....but I guess he forgot about that.
3 posted on 08/03/2007 12:51:00 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

Newt Gingrich is really losing it. What a shame.


4 posted on 08/03/2007 12:52:09 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

“weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil”

That much is fairly obvious. But the environuts thwart every possible option.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 12:52:42 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

a big fan ? seriously ?

wasn’t it just a short time ago that newt was appearing in some sort of sham environmental debate vs. kerry ?

total sellout, but either way, gingrich’s days of relevancy are over, whether he runs for anything, and thank god imho.

gingrich = rino


6 posted on 08/03/2007 12:52:42 PM PDT by malamute
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To: AfterManyASummer
I'm a big fan of Newt Gingrich

I'm not, and crap like this is why. Newt may or may not actually believe what he says, but it's highly unlikely that the statement has much more than a political intent.

His real purpose in saying it is probably pretty cynical: trying to stake out particular patches of rhetorical territory for himself, in preparation for his (sure-to-fail) presidential run.

Put another way, he's triangulating in the same way that Bill Clinton did: place himself left of most Republicans with regard to the WOT, so that come primary time he might pull in a lot of the more moderate votes.

Won't work, of course: Gingrich has more negatives than the Walgreens photo department.

7 posted on 08/03/2007 12:53:44 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: AfterManyASummer

Newt is a very bright man, who did great things with the Contract with America. He was not especially effective as Majority Leader and let his personal weaknesses (we all have them) undermine his effectiveness and political career. He can render valuable service with reasoned analysis, but his time has come and gone as an elected official, and ranting like this will only distance him from the people he should be trying to influence. He seems to have had one bad judgment call after another for quite a while now.


8 posted on 08/03/2007 12:53:54 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: AfterManyASummer; All

So does General Gingrich reads the latest intell???


9 posted on 08/03/2007 12:54:16 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: bolobaby

Newt’s evolved into being a frickin idiot. Looks like he’s been borged, right along with Bush and others that formerly “were” conservatives.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 12:56:18 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: CatoRenasci
He was not especially effective as Majority Leader

To put it very, very mildly. Newt was a disaster as Speaker. His mistakes brought Bill Clinton back from the political dead.

11 posted on 08/03/2007 12:56:27 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: malamute

Forgot about that, but it’s pretty despicable.

That said, I still respect him for the Contract with America and for having guts as Speaker in the 90s.


12 posted on 08/03/2007 12:56:50 PM PDT by AfterManyASummer (Hunter/Huckabee '08)
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To: r9etb
Gingrich has more negatives than the Walgreens photo department.

I Like that. Gingrich had a great start but I don’t know what happened to him. Seems like he is full of him self. Of course the media manipulates this also.
13 posted on 08/03/2007 12:57:01 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: AfterManyASummer
Just another one of those out of touch old guys who don't know what they are talking about but like to hear themselves talk so much they just keep spouting off. Guys like Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Colin Powell, Ralph Nader, Charlie Shummer, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry etc.

When I was young, I used to think our elders, especially those who held office, must be smart or they wouldn't be where they are. Now I know that those who are smart enough to hold office are too smart to run for election.

14 posted on 08/03/2007 12:59:35 PM PDT by tryon1ja
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To: AfterManyASummer
>>I'm a big fan of Newt Gingrich, but it seems that he's simply using stupidly hyperbolic language here to get some publicity for his potential run.<<

I share both your appreciation of Newt ~and~ your reaction to his language.

As Newt himself might say, he uses the most "stupidly hyperbolic language" on the planet.

(He knows he is the smartest kid in the class but does not have the self-control to discipline himself to the demeanor required of a leader rather than a geek.)

15 posted on 08/03/2007 1:00:27 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: AfterManyASummer

I must agree about Newt, he seem to be becoming the political version of Paris Hilton, in that he will do anything and say anything to get his name in the paper.


16 posted on 08/03/2007 1:00:45 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: AfterManyASummer

Et tu, Newt?


17 posted on 08/03/2007 1:00:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: AfterManyASummer

It’s the beginning of a long war Newt, and we have witnessed the greatest success in the history of the armed forces (with coalition help) of The United States of America.


18 posted on 08/03/2007 1:01:22 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: bolobaby

What is he smoking?


19 posted on 08/03/2007 1:01:26 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

Wacko alert.


20 posted on 08/03/2007 1:01:50 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: AfterManyASummer
There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students

Newt is my former Congressman. Glad to hear he is an ex-Georgian. lol

What state took him in?
21 posted on 08/03/2007 1:03:04 PM PDT by Republican Red (The word "courage" is not in the liberal vocabulary)
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To: AfterManyASummer
Newt can be so annoying, almost as annoying as Hillary, which is why he could never be elected President.

He is a very smart, conservative man, however.

I am a reformed Fredhead (thanks to his association with Spencer Abraham), however, I think a Fred/Newt (Beauty/Brains) ticket might be the only thing that can stop Hillary.

22 posted on 08/03/2007 1:03:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Gingrich had a great start but I don’t know what happened to him. Seems like he is full of him self. Of course the media manipulates this also.

Newt Gingrich always reminded me of Bill Clinton -- narcissistic, arrogant, and self-centered. (This seems to be a definitive feature of "boomers," especially boomer politicians of both parties.)

That's why Bill Clinton was able to thrash him so regularly -- Clinton recognized that they were kindred spirits, and knew exactly how to manipulate Gingrich, including how to steer him into making disastrous mistakes (e.g., medicare reform and the budget showdown).

I don't think Gingrich ever did recognize the similarities between himself and Clinton: his arrogance led him time and again to act as if he could beat Clinton at his own game.

23 posted on 08/03/2007 1:03:42 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: AfterManyASummer
We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing.

Very, VERY dumb thing to say. I don't care if it's taken out of context or if it's not what he meant, Newt should know better.

24 posted on 08/03/2007 1:06:06 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What should a Free Man do?)
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To: r9etb
To put it very, very mildly. Newt was a disaster as Speaker. His mistakes brought Bill Clinton back from the political dead.

Totally. I like how Newt said recently he'll get in the race if necessary. If someone else emerges who is capable of beating the Dems, he'll sit it out. But if not, he'll graciously step in and save us. As if...

25 posted on 08/03/2007 1:06:43 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: malamute

He’s been going in the rino direction for two years.


26 posted on 08/03/2007 1:07:24 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: AfterManyASummer
"None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students attending a conference for collegiate conservatives.

Someone should show Newt the statistics of global terrorism going way down since this war began.

27 posted on 08/03/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: AfterManyASummer

If I consider Iraq and Afghanistan to be simple battles in an overall effort to eliminate terrorism, then I can see his point. I disagree with him, but I see his point.

His point, in that case, is that we are not taking any long-term actions to stop terror. These are things that Freepers are already aware of:
- We are not eliminating the source of terrorist funding.
- We are not controlling our own borders.
- We are not doing anything about demographics.

But for Newt to call the war “Phoney” is, well, phoney, and meant to grab headlines. The war is real. The stakes are real. And, at present, the battlefronts are on the enemy’s soil and are consuming all of their resources.


28 posted on 08/03/2007 1:08:21 PM PDT by kidd
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To: jveritas
First he’s on board with Kerry and the warming morons, now this.

I think Newt is bitter. He’s unelectable and bitter and pathetic.

29 posted on 08/03/2007 1:08:27 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: AfterManyASummer

Pretty stupid on Newt’s part - he pulled an Edwards.


30 posted on 08/03/2007 1:08:39 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Jim Robinson

“Et tu, Newt?”

Exactly!


31 posted on 08/03/2007 1:08:54 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: AfterManyASummer

Earth to Gingrich: Lay off the peanuts! You are turning into Jimmy Carter!

You are what you eat; goober boy.


32 posted on 08/03/2007 1:09:44 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (All our Washington Comedians.. politicians ? whatever!,say to Mexico: " Take my country....Please.")
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To: golfisnr1

“What is he smoking?”

Peanut hulls wrapped in paper recycled from Jimmy Carter’s skid marked drawers.


33 posted on 08/03/2007 1:12:41 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (All our Washington Comedians.. politicians ? whatever!,say to Mexico: " Take my country....Please.")
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To: r9etb
>>I don't think Gingrich ever did recognize the similarities between himself and Clinton: his arrogance led him time and again to act as if he could beat Clinton at his own game.<<

I've thought a lot myself about this comparison betweent the two of them...the TWO smartest kids in the class.

But Clinton was a master in his "people skills," however much we here despise him and think him phony. His act sold well enough to make him a triumphant politician.

Newt, by contrast, has a need to show off which completely swamps any instincts he has as a politican and leader. Such a waste for our side.

34 posted on 08/03/2007 1:12:48 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: AfterManyASummer

The author has twisted what he said, I think. I don’t think that Gingrich meant that Bush is waging a phony war. He meant that the US in general is waging a phony war. And what he meant by that is that we are pulling our punches. Not that it’s a neoconservative conspiracy.

We say we are fighting a war, and yet, we are not fighting it like we are serious. For example, we now have rules that restrict the president from intercepting terrorist phone calls from Pakistan to the US. I guaranty you that if the Japanese had called someone in the US during WWII, Roosevelt would not have required US intelligence to get a warrant before intercepting the call.


35 posted on 08/03/2007 1:14:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: AfterManyASummer

Nostradamus Newt has been itching for headlines for awhile. He said he would not run for President if Fred Thompson ran. Hence, looking for a VP or Cabinet position if FT wins (fred will run).

Now if he continues to speak out against the war, there is an Executive Order that can take away all of his assets and toss him in the brink.


36 posted on 08/03/2007 1:16:44 PM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: CatoRenasci

“Newt is a very bright man ...”

However bright he is, he is not nearly as bright as he thinks he is.


37 posted on 08/03/2007 1:17:36 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What is going to stop Hillary Clinton is Hillary Clinton. She is very mean, very rude, very fake, and very uncharismatic. People will easily and immediately notice this about her when she speaks with her very annoying voice or they see her mean face gestures, and the majority of voters will be turned off by her nasty personality even before they know that she is a communist and that her flip flops dwarf those of John Kerry. Neither her nor the media can change this fact no matter how hard they try.
38 posted on 08/03/2007 1:17:39 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: AfterManyASummer
I'm a big fan of Newt Gingrich, but it seems that he's simply using stupidly hyperbolic language here to get some publicity for his potential run.

I think Gingrich's value to the Republican Party is as a gadfly. But to penetrate the hide of an elephant requries a big stinger.

I like Gingrich, but I don't think he is electable. He speaks too frankly for the mushy middle. And the drive-by media will never treat him fairly. Do Republicans need to distance themselves from George Bush? Yes!

39 posted on 08/03/2007 1:19:30 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: ryan71

Agree 100%.


40 posted on 08/03/2007 1:20:16 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: AfterManyASummer
Gingrich is encouraging Al Queda with his stupid words.

He's on a par with Harry Reid.

Shut up, idiot Newt!

41 posted on 08/03/2007 1:20:21 PM PDT by what's up
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To: The Blitherer

“We’re about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we’re losing.”
Very, VERY dumb thing to say. I don’t care if it’s taken out of context or if it’s not what he meant, Newt should know better.

Odd - I thought Newt, like millions of Americans, have noticed that Emperor Jorge has no clothes on, err border fence. How can you fight a war on terror when the borders are left open with Bush wanting to offer amnesty to all illegals - unless it is phony?

Bush’s plan to invade the world and invite their pissed off muslim and hispanic relatives here for taxpayer freebies is lame.


42 posted on 08/03/2007 1:22:36 PM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (i)
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To: r9etb
Won't work, of course: Gingrich has more negatives than the Walgreens photo department.

LOL!

And the rest of your post is spot on, too.

43 posted on 08/03/2007 1:25:39 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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every time I hear this guy open his mouth its more BS from that guy. I was not into politics in the 90’s but this guy should just STFU already. His time has come and gone.


44 posted on 08/03/2007 1:26:21 PM PDT by Heavy Fuel
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To: AfterManyASummer
>>>>>Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism ...

Wouldn't call it a phony war, but its definitely not a total war. I think thats been our problem since US troops finished their successful invasion effort and take down of Saddam's brutal regime. Fighting a PC war with our troops as cops on the beat, obviously hasn't been the right approach

>>>>> "None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war,"

True. Lets hope the surge is successful.

45 posted on 08/03/2007 1:27:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: AfterManyASummer

The man is absolutely dead on correct. If we were serious, we wouldn’t be continuing to pay those who would see us dead, money for their oil.

There is no drive behind the war

Not one Leader in this country has ever come out to win public support.

There has not been ANY attempt by the government to get the civilian workforce rallied behind a war effort.

There are NO smoking ruins of arabic cities anywhere in the world even tho the first thing our president said was “You’re either with us or with the terrorists”.

Bullshit.

I know our boys are fighting and dying and getting wounded overseas fighting these people. But this is not a serious war.

It never has been.


46 posted on 08/03/2007 1:27:47 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
Odd - I thought Newt, like millions of Americans, have noticed that Emperor Jorge has no clothes on, err border fence. How can you fight a war on terror when the borders are left open with Bush wanting to offer amnesty to all illegals - unless it is phony? Bush’s plan to invade the world and invite their pissed off muslim and hispanic relatives here for taxpayer freebies is lame.

I understand your point. MY point is that it is very irresponsible to say the words "we are losing" right now, with the way the press twists and takes things out of context to serve their own agenda.

47 posted on 08/03/2007 1:28:11 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What should a free man do?)
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To: AfterManyASummer

Sounds like he’s about ready to jump on the global warming bandwagon.I agree that we need to become more energy independent. We have plenty of resources, take oil shale for example, but the cost of getting it is high. Perhaps incentives to corporations or privately owned companies who invest in new technologies with tax credits, etc to motivate them?


48 posted on 08/03/2007 1:30:28 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: bolobaby

Every time this guy opens his mouth, my mind shuts a little more on him.


49 posted on 08/03/2007 1:30:39 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov; r9etb

Good analysis.


50 posted on 08/03/2007 1:32:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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