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Gingrich says war on terror "phony"
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^

Posted on 08/03/2007 12:48:30 PM PDT by AfterManyASummer

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To: AfterManyASummer; 4CJ
"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. "I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."

A friendly Frid aft. ping :-)

61 posted on 08/03/2007 1:48:50 PM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Get Away from the Blind Side of Life--S.R. Vaughn)
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To: AfterManyASummer
Hey Newt!

It's not the "energy strategy," IT'S THE INFIDELS, STUPID! Ask the muzzies!

62 posted on 08/03/2007 1:49:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You know you are a great American when a Kennedy calls you a traitor.)
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To: AfterManyASummer
I'm a big fan of Newt Gingrich, but it seems that he's simply using stupidly hyperbolic language here to get some publicity for his potential run.

He would never win, so he should just shut up and find something constructive t do.

63 posted on 08/03/2007 1:50:27 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: AfterManyASummer; All
“Too much Ego in his Cosmos.”
64 posted on 08/03/2007 1:53:05 PM PDT by dighton
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To: JasonC; AfterManyASummer
He is right in the diagnosis but unwilling to call the left what it is. Everybody is afraid of an utterly irresponsible left and the public support it commands

You are correct.

The other half is that (at least in the article) Newt fails to mention that In WW II we had serious allies that were also committed to the struggle against Fascism.

With Fascism re-emergent in the Middle East with a nearly inexhaustible supply of money our traditional allies are cowering in fear of offending the rich Arabs to which there economies are enthralled. Europe is also so crippled by their fear of being seen to be xenophobic or illiberal that than insist on being blind to the threat with in their own boarders that is the ballooning Muslim immigrant population.

Newt is correct but he is too busy image polishing to be blunt.

65 posted on 08/03/2007 1:54:39 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: jveritas

Yeah, it seems like, the past few days, he and McCain have been smoking a little whacky Tobacky


66 posted on 08/03/2007 1:59:53 PM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: AfterManyASummer
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67 posted on 08/03/2007 2:02:23 PM PDT by randita
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To: P-40

God forbid that President Bush get any good reporting on this.


68 posted on 08/03/2007 2:04:18 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hiraba (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Paperdoll
You know, I normally don’t read auras, but rank egotism simply oozes from Newt Gingrich

LoL. Helmet hair is usually a red flag. Newt loves Newt.

69 posted on 08/03/2007 2:07:07 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: BlabItGrabIt
A friendly Frid aft. ping :-)

The 'pubbies were just so happy to be back in control, they abandoned the Christians/conservatives that put them in office. Spit on us for electing them back to a majority? Their accomplishments could have been so much greater.

70 posted on 08/03/2007 2:08:35 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: colorado tanker
I suppose Newt thought Pearl Harbor and WWII was all about oil, too. Some historian.

No - he's alluding to the funding of terrorists with oil revenues, and decreasing the importance of that region to us.

71 posted on 08/03/2007 2:08:42 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Jim Robinson; AfterManyASummer; CatoRenasci; jveritas
I was trying to find a complete transcript of that breakfast hosted by The American Spectator on about July 23, 2007 when he said that phrase. So far I could not find it. Besides the article posted, I looked into another one: by James P. Pinkerton writing in newsday.com: Title: Gingrich, like Churchill, won't wage 'phony' war. 

I think Newt is wrong in using the phrase "losing the war", I don't think we are losing. But we just might snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory. I do share his dissatisfaction with us fighting with one hand behind our back, being too PC, not being consistent, aggressive enough, and committed enough. I am talking about the country as a whole, not a military that does its job brilliantly and is learning on the fly. Here is an excerpt from Pinkerton's article that better explains the historical reference to the "phony war":

"So when Gingrich, 64, speaking yesterday at a breakfast hosted by The American Spectator, declared that America is fighting a "phony war" against Islamic terrorism, he knew that listeners would recall that the same phrase - "phony war" - was used to describe the six-month period in 1939-40 when Churchill's predecessor, Neville Chamberlain, sat passively as the Wehrmacht gathered its strength for the coming blitzkrieg.

Gingrich's obvious point was that President George W. Bush has not been an effective war leader for Americans. And as a subpoint for Republicans, Gingrich was blunt: If in 2008 the GOP is still in the "Bush era" psychologically, it will be clobbered politically. By this reckoning, the Republican Gingrich is urging the same intra-party "clean break" with the Republican Bush that Churchill made with Chamberlain, a fellow Conservative, seven decades ago.

Another steady champion of military preparedness was Charles de Gaulle, who watched helplessly as his beloved France stood equally inert against the threat from Hitler. De Gaulle kept the faith from exile in London and, after the Allies liberated France in 1944, came briefly to political power."

Newt does not blame military at all (quotes from the posted article): "We've been engaged in a phony war," said Gingrich. "The only people who have been taking this seriously are the combat military." "We have to take this seriously," said Gingrich.

"We used to be a serious country. When we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany," he said, referring to World War II. "We beat all three in less than four years. We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing."

Okay - losing is a bad choice of rhetoric. But we are not winning as you and I would like. He is being impatient with words, but the underlining message is correct: we could have done better.

I think many here are too quick to call him names. Newt wants to win this no less than any of us. Anyway, running off his mouth like that is not mature. Looks like I'll have to downgrade him to the VP position.

72 posted on 08/03/2007 2:09:01 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: griswold3
God forbid that President Bush get any good reporting on this.

It is getting to the point where it is simply humorous listening to any news source because you know just how much effort they have to make to not see the changes taking place. When Gore spoke before the House Hearing on Global Warming, which is still available at c-span.org, he was grilled by Rep. Barton on just how many things the Republicans have already done that he doesn't acknowledge. Gore could say or do nothing but sit there with that little Xanax grin on his face. The media didn't report on that part.
73 posted on 08/03/2007 2:11:04 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

Next he will be touting his support for ending global warming as an anti-terrorism tactic...


74 posted on 08/03/2007 2:12:20 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Ying Yang...


75 posted on 08/03/2007 2:16:47 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jveritas; Mygirlsmom
PS: Hillary Clinton will lose the women vote despite all the stupid conventional wisdom, and of course she will badly lose the men vote.

jveritas, I'm not an envious person, but if I were I'd envy you your unshakeable optimism. Unfortunately, it isn't based in reality. Hillary is going to win the women's vote and win it big-time.

Decades of pervasive feminist brainwashing, Oprahfication and cultural conditioning of women's attitudes have laid the groundwork and prepared the way for such a "Hillary moment", whether for her specifically, or someone like her. It is the culmination of one facet of a long-term Gramscian strategy of remaking the institutions of our civil society.

Despite their generally conservative political attitudes and even their oft-expressed protestations that they would never vote for Hillary, millions of women, of all types, when in the privacy of the voting booth will be unable to resist the cultural compulsions so deeply-ingrained in them over decades and forego the opportunity to elect "one of their own". They will all "have their reasons", and those reasons will vary widely and even be contradictory, but it will happen.

I'm on your side. I hope you are right, but sadly, I don't think so.

76 posted on 08/03/2007 2:16:51 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Brilliant

And what he meant by that is that we are pulling our punches.
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In that case, it’s a correct statement. We have been pulling our punches in this PC war..........and that will lose it for us!


77 posted on 08/03/2007 2:22:58 PM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: jveritas

That would be a politically suicidal assumption to make.


78 posted on 08/03/2007 2:23:36 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: AfterManyASummer

“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a “phony war” on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.”
What a jerk he’s become!! A couple of months ago he’s kissing Kerry’s tush at a so-called global warming debate now it seems like he’s auditioning for Hillary’s running mate. Don’t trust this draft-dodging twerp, yeah he hid in the corner during Nam...screw him.


79 posted on 08/03/2007 2:24:28 PM PDT by kenmcg
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