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Stu Bykofsky | To save America, we need another 9/11
philly.com ^ | 8/9/07 | Stu Bykofsky

Posted on 08/09/2007 4:10:58 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bykofsky; islam; jihad; muslims; muzzies; oped

1 posted on 08/09/2007 4:11:00 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

“What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?

A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.”

“...a sick bastard...”

This is called “Truth in Advertising.”


2 posted on 08/09/2007 4:13:31 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
“America likes wars shorter than the World Series.”

America can handle war, even long wars. What America can’t handle is a war where the President, in deference to political correctness, ties the hands of the warriors. If America thinks that we’re actually in it to win as quickly as possible with as few American casualties as practical, America will be behind the war, no matter how long it takes. America won’t, however, tolerate a half-hearted offensive where American lives are sacrificed in the vain attempt to gain approval from the left, foreign or domestic.

3 posted on 08/09/2007 4:24:20 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: vetsvette

Very, very well said vetsvette.


4 posted on 08/09/2007 6:10:32 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat or Ron Paul!)
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To: Constantine XIII
From article: "A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is. It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children. Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness. Most Americans today believe Iraq was a mistake. Why? Not because Americans are "anti-war." Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don't have the patience for a long slog. We've been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years."

He makes some good points, but fails to realize that the unity would only last a few months, just like last time. After the initial shock and trauma wears off, the American America haters will always feel most comfortable laying the blame on their own country. Even if a terrorist slammed a plane right into their home in LA, killing their family and their dog.

5 posted on 08/09/2007 6:22:09 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

6 posted on 08/09/2007 6:39:54 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: RDTF

He makes some good points, but fails to realize that the unity would only last a few months, just like last time.”
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Perhaps........but this country is goin’ down the tubes at the moment.


7 posted on 08/09/2007 8:33:47 PM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
I started reading this piece with guarded pessimism, but by the end I realized that this column is the result of the inability of so many members of our media to think logically.

He wishes we'd have another 9/11 so we would be united...but he seems to forget that such unity lasted only until we went to Afghanistan ("a quagmire" as Ted Kennedy and others called it).

Our president is not tying our soldiers' hands. I see those who say this as being just as illogical as this writer. The troop surge which is getting results is not done to appease the left--really, if Bush were going to appease the left or foreign governments, we never would have gone into Iraq. Some people are exhibiting the behavior this writer sees, which is the need for speed.

But we're not ONLY fighting a war--we're trying to build a country that can serve as an alternative to the kind of world Al Qaeda wants--ON the battleground of that war.

Do most people know how incredibly difficult that is?

The Ron Paul fools believe we can just up and leave Iraq. I have an idea along the lines of this columnist's "thinking"--why not just go into our kids' rooms and smother them? That way we would be guaranteeing they never have to live in a world run by Muslim wackjobs.

Bush is flawed in so many ways, but he's always seemed to me to be focused on what MUST be done in the Middle East, now, not later. I suspect this is due to his having briefings on national security and Al Qaeda's actions, the near-misses, the wiretaps, etc.

Abu Grahbe, Gitmo and other such embarassments are minor, MINOR flaws (which the critics seem to forget have been dealt with, the perps punished, as they should be). We have lost many brave Americans in Iraq who would be alive today if we had perfect foresight, perfect intel, and Iraqis who weren't cowed by decades under a dictator, living in the shadow of Muslim extremism. I hate to sound so glib, since I never served in the military, but FDR lost more men in one day of WW2 than we've lost so far in Iraq...and the stakes, while not as obvious, are just as high.

We don't need another 9/11. We need the bitching, whining, overly-coddled "moderates" and leftists in this country to get a clue. They strike me as a bunch of scared brats who don't believe things can REALLY be that bad.

All they have to do is look to the Middle East. If they don't get their **** together and join the president in trying to WIN this war--heck, if they don't first admit we are AT war--then we may get many more 9/11's, and the result will not be what this columnist wants, but outcries to retreat...and we'll have more 9/11's than you could imagine after that.

8 posted on 08/10/2007 4:06:53 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: Darkwolf377
It’s tough to be united when you are dead. I work far too near The Pentagon to read this w/o wanting to punch this mendacious spit-polisher of male reproductive organs in his stomach.
9 posted on 08/10/2007 5:21:06 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Deadwards and Oprahbama are roadkill. Hillary has already been nominated.)
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To: Constantine XIII
Stu Bykofsky

Stfu FuBykofsky.

There, that's better.

10 posted on 08/10/2007 6:38:42 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

bump


11 posted on 08/10/2007 7:17:10 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

There was a cool old Outer Limits episode where the goverment was forced to fake an Alien (from space) Invasion to bring the country back together again.


12 posted on 08/10/2007 7:34:40 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Prediction: One more terrorist attack in America and every foreign muzzie will have to pack up his koran and family and go back to whatever hellhole he originated from. And anyone who doesn’t like it can have a good cry over it.

Also, allowing these mosques to operate makes about as much since as if we had allowed the German-American Bunds to operate in America during WWII. Every damn one of them should be shut down and SHUT DOWN NOW! Islam masquerading as a "religion" is ridiculous and anyone who says differently doesn't know it's history. Our ancestors didn’t risk life & limb to emigrate to this country just so a bunch of camel jockeys could come here, terrorize our women & children and make hamburger out or our families.

Sooner or later we are going to have to give the muzzies the jihad they so desperately want. And this time, we will finish the job.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

13 posted on 08/10/2007 8:16:22 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Hate to ruin Bykofsky`s sick fantasy, but another 9/11, no matter how large it was, would not unite this country. Just the opposite would happen. It would disunite us even more. We are`nt even united on Afghanistan. A poll shows that a majority of Americans now oppose our being in Afghanistan;

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14497


14 posted on 08/10/2007 4:25:15 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Darkwolf377

MINOR flaws? UH excuse me?

So tell me how ‘we’re’ trying to build Iraq ..thus far what has been accomplished?


15 posted on 08/10/2007 5:44:55 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Temple Owl

ping


16 posted on 08/10/2007 9:53:04 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


17 posted on 08/10/2007 9:53:36 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: Zipporah
MINOR flaws? UH excuse me? So tell me how ‘we’re’ trying to build Iraq ..thus far what has been accomplished?

The WSJ publishes a LONG piece every two weeks detailing progress in Iraq.

I suppose you are one of those who sits there, arms folded, demanding news reports brought to your attention every day detailing the back-breaking work our troops are doing, the progress being made.

Do yourself a favor, do what I did--talk to those who've actually BEEN there. I know that's more difficult than sitting on your butt watching the tube all day, but it's always amusing to me how we complain about the biased media 24/7 around here, and then write foolishness as you do. Educate yourself about reality, and stop reading sources that only buttress your already-held beliefs. Unearned cynicism isn't the same as educating yourself about the truth.

18 posted on 08/10/2007 10:22:44 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: .cnI redruM
It’s tough to be united when you are dead.

It's been 24 hours and I still can't figure out why this idiot wrote this piece, other than to be provocative and get attention, which he obviously has gotten. I don't think this is the kind of attention he'd hoped for, though.

19 posted on 08/10/2007 10:23:50 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: Darkwolf377
Excuse me? I dont sit and watch TV and drink in the propaganda. I supported the war that is till I did exactly as you proposed, I stopped reading sources that only buttressed my already-held beliefs and I educated myself about the truth. And I did what you suggested.. read accounts of those who have been there and found some interesting information

Iraq Vets Bear Witness

Inside the surge

And hows this for reality?

Iraq deaths due to the invasion

Water taps run dry in Baghdad

Iraqi Power Grid Nearing Collapse

GAO: $19 Billion Worth of Equipment 'Lost' in Iraq

20 posted on 08/11/2007 3:56:27 AM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
Excuse me? I dont sit and watch TV and drink in the propaganda

You sure sound like you do.

21 posted on 08/11/2007 4:55:42 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: Zipporah
And hows this for reality? Iraq deaths due to the invasion

According to that link, there've been over 1 million deaths due to the invasion.

Hear that sound?

It's your credibility going right down the toilet.

Even the totally-debunked Lancet estimate wasn't even half that.

You can push those lies elsewhere, but I'm not one of your Ron Paul flunkies.

22 posted on 08/11/2007 4:57:39 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: Zipporah
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/hedges

THE NATION is one of your sources.

Case closed.

23 posted on 08/11/2007 4:58:28 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: vetsvette

Excellant.


24 posted on 08/11/2007 4:58:54 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Darkwolf377

So ONE of my sources is one that you reject so the case is closed?? LOL! How dishonest you are.


25 posted on 08/11/2007 5:18:21 AM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Darkwolf377

My lies? Your mind is closed and you’re the one that told ME to seek other sources.. You’ve chose your name well, Darkwolf. You are in the dark and you have chosen to remain there.


26 posted on 08/11/2007 5:20:26 AM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
So ONE of my sources is one that you reject so the case is closed?? LOL! How dishonest you are.

How you get ONE from THE NATION and the completely false information about Iraqi casualties, I dunno. But I sure hope you're not home-schooling your kids with THAT kind of math.

I'm "dishonest"? What a laugh coming from someone who pushes lies about the number of Iraqi dead.

27 posted on 08/11/2007 5:33:48 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: Zipporah
My lies? Your mind is closed and you’re the one that told ME to seek other sources.. You’ve chose your name well, Darkwolf. You are in the dark and you have chosen to remain there.

Your kind can't stand up to your "facts" being revealed as lies. All you can do is get in a snit--you have no facts, just urls to lies you're comfortable with.

You are living in the dark of The Nation and outright lies about Iraqi dead. Your "other sources" just HAPPEN to be liberal.

Let me guess--you're a Ron Paul supporter, right? You have the I.Q> to be one.

28 posted on 08/11/2007 5:35:44 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

It would not unite us. Look, within hours the lefties were blaming Bush for the bridge collapsing.


29 posted on 08/11/2007 5:37:56 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware
It would not unite us. Look, within hours the lefties were blaming Bush for the bridge collapsing.

That was because we didn't have evidence that the ragheads did it. Remember enemy number one to the sane is the ragheads...to the insane is GW...

30 posted on 08/11/2007 5:51:22 AM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: Darkwolf377
'your kind'? And your attempt at insulting my IQ, is yet more proof that you're the one that doesn't have a leg to stand on in regard to the truth. Typical for 'your kind' I suggest you leave the 'dark side' and move into the light of the truth.. how about educating yourself and watching this Iraq for Sale Of course you wont watch it cause you seem to actually LIKE living in the dark, seems you're comfortable there.
31 posted on 08/11/2007 6:33:00 AM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Tribune7
America likes wars shorter than the World Series

If that is true .. then God help us all .. because we will be doomed

as for this article? .. Stu has lost his mind and has a real problem remembering history

32 posted on 08/11/2007 7:56:07 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: .cnI redruM

yeah what he wrote was not fair or kind. and it is foolish that he would suggest we need what we are trying to avoid in order to avoid it

bleah. people who think the ends justify the means are always moonbats in my book


33 posted on 08/11/2007 8:38:28 AM PDT by modest proposal
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Why doesn't Bykofsky volunteer to die, or have someone he loves die, in his "other 9/11"? Because he views human beings---especially his fellow citizens---as expendable props to accomplish his polemical ends, just like the "Islamo-fascists" he pretends to deplore. Nothing else explains the vile sentiment of this article.

Lead by example, Bykofsky, you unfeeling wretch. Go die the glorious, memorable, exemplary death you meant for others.

34 posted on 08/11/2007 6:52:06 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("...stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you..." -Deut. 21:21)
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