Posted on 08/10/2007 8:19:02 AM PDT by xjcsa
The Constitution is not a suicide pact. You have to be a dim bulb not to understand why the Patriot Act is part of our national defense against terrorism.
Some of these people also would criticize Lincoln as a bad president for his transgression against the constitution and may even have preferred a Ron Paul of the day to Lincoln.
The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. |
That's because most Christians aren't as clueless as you.
Ah, I see our troll is already gone.
No. You must be willing to embrace Orwellian doublespeak so completely that you believe that it is right “to sacrifice your liberty for freedom”.
The Christian Bible says to love your enemies, and when someone attempts to rob you, you should willingly and happily hand over your property. I dont see too many Christians doing that.
I haven’t read the entire bible, hardly, but i would be interested in the chapter and verse that says christians should willingly hand over their property to anyone who wants it..I don’t ever remember hearing that.
True enough. So what is unconstitutional about the Patriot Act?
What freedoms have YOU sacrificed under the Patriot Act?
I haven’t sacrificed anything. I was responding to your statement that the Constitution wasn’t a suicide pact. The great men who founded this country put their lives on the line for the principles contained in that document.
We don’t have very many people in our government that can come close to those men.
Have another drink and I will join you later!
I didn’t ask you what you sacrificed. I asked you, “So what is unconstitutional about the Patriot Act?
But the war in Afghanisan is no more “Constitutional” than that in Iraq, regardless of public opinion.
Obviously you forgot the Cold War, where our alliance with Israel began.
And when they get nukes?
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