Posted on 08/14/2007 7:07:09 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Psychiatry is part of the medical wing of the justice institution of the state and is joined at the hip with Big Pharma.
Well, it did take the writer a long time to get there.
I am not a doctor, but there are some things that make you feel better about yourself...besides the use of drugs. Exercise , Creativity, Music, Humor, Helping others, friendship, beautiful scenery, a lovely garden, watching the sun come up in the morning and setting in the evening, taking time to smell the roses, meditation, Prayer
Heck, there’s money to be made. That’s all that counts.
Sorry about your Mom. My father-in-law was given Zoloft in his mid 80’s due to him feeling low about aging, he had hallucinations while on the drugs. Would see dancing bands of brightly colored merrymakers swarming around him while he was outside and then they would move inside his home with him and they would change into dark clothes. He quit taking the medication and the hallucinations went away. He died at 89 from Congestive heart failure.
I can only imagine the hell of coping with someone with schizophrenia who is taking mind altering medications from a doctor. Thank Goodness you survived and your sister.
I think antidepressant drugs have their place when used to treat older people but are a disaster for younger people. I'm not sure exactly where the cutoff would be. I'm guessing I'd put it at 23 or so. I think by 23 the brain has locked in controls that the drugs can't override as they can in a younger person. But if I'm wrong find out what age it is and use that age.
I'm really glad such drugs didn't exist when I was young, I'd have been on them and have hurt someone. Parents divorced when I was 8, and I was extremely angry and it was deep anger. I was on the leading edge of that '70s easy divorce thing. Thanks liberals, feminists. I didn't know I was angry and I didn't know I was depressed. But I wasn't like my peers either, I was down, withdrawn, depressed. My nervous system could not take what was going on with my family. I read about depression years after I came out of mine (which lasted about 20 years) and realized I was reading about myself. I'm still angry but I know it.
Looking back, and my advice to young people having trouble coping, don't take the drugs, just suffer the depression and wait for it subside on its own maybe decades later. That's better than taking a drug which one day crosses the wires in the brain and makes you go berserk. The anger will come out one way or another. Better it be under your control than not.
Thanks for exerpting that portion of the article. I would have skipped over it.
The more I read about schizophrenia, the more I believe that "hearing voices" is some form of demonic oppression. First of all, anti-psychotic drugs seem to be only able to suppress symptoms. Secondly, the thoughts of these "crazy people" seem to be uniformly evil. Random, disordered thoughts should result in random, disordered acts --some good, some bad.
The activity described above conforms with the accounts of demonic oppression/possession described in Malachi Martin's "Hostage to the Devil."
All they really need is Jesus, not some drug
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I hope, very strongly, that no one in your most precious circle of family and friends ever is diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Your advice may, unfortunately, hasten their death.
I can say, completely and with equivocation, my mother would be dead if she were NOT taking the drugs her psychiatrist prescribes.
Unfortunately, as in so many situations, the smallest number of cases make up the overwhelming majority of news. This is the squeaky wheel getting the grease. For each whacked out person on meds who does something to get him or herself into the news, there are hundreds, if not thousands of people who are able to continue living productive lives BECAUSE of the meds.
And no, I don’t work for the pharmaceutical industry, but my mom is alive and mostly well because of the meds. I’m not sure Jesus would have been able to assist with her psychotic break the last couple of times she went off her meds. JMO.
I heard someone say that the reason why we don't see many instances of demonic possession today, like the wild man in the biblical account, is because most of the population has been baptized. As Christian influence diminishes in our society, as fewer people are baptized, and as more people dabble in the occult, we may see an increase in the number of these cases.
I do not like pharmaceutical advertising—I think it should be the doctors who do the prescribing. Although I don’t think prescription drugs are evil, I believe they should be carefully prescribed. They DO have side effects.
Mental illness is difficult. I know one man who had some psychological problems for which he was hospitalized and he came out of the institution with even deeper problems as an effect of the of the medication they put him on. That’s not uncommon and should scare all of us. But medications for mental illness has also saved lots of lives and improved thousands, millions, of others.
Someone mentioned demonic temptation. I also believe that there can be underlying supernatural causes to these illnesses that are too often not recognized by mental health professionals. And both sides are guilty. Non-christians don’t recognize this and some Christians attribute all mental health problems to it, which is also not true.
I have often thought that taking to time to care for family and friends—spending time with them and listening, I mean really listening to them, would take away a lot of psychiatric dollars from professionals. But I still think that medication is necessary for some people. I would like to see more care in dispensing it.
da Debbil made me do it!
Thank you. I am a little surprised to see at FR so much bashing of doctors and the pharmaceutical companies. In spite of the difficulty with my sister’s condition, I thank God every day for good doctors and modern day pharmaceuticals.
Joined a gym. Started intensive exercise 2-3 times / week.
Now she sleeps just fine. No exercise, though, means no sleep.
Being sedentary does strange things to people.
Exercise , Creativity, Music, Humor, Helping others, friendship, beautiful scenery, a lovely garden, watching the sun come up in the morning and setting in the evening, taking time to smell the roses, meditation,
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Ever experienced someone who has suffered a psychotic break? I have. None of your ‘cures’ above would do squat.
I think he took longer, so as to lay out the case for his theory on the subject.
I have to agree.
It reminds me of a scene in the fictional (but loosely based on an actual true possession) movie The Exorcist where Chris MacNeil says:
"Eight eight doctors, and all you can tell is 'You're sorry?!'"
Some could be. Much of it is the primary symptom of schiz, and schiz is usually from a deep-seated miscommunication within the brain wiring.
I’m with you.
On the basis of more than a few mental health/illness threads around here, I believe (as in I am expressing only my opinion) that the the overprescription of ADHD meds by the public schools is a prime cause in freeper’s mistrust or distrust of the pyschiatric establishment. The charges may well be appropriate.
But it paints with too broad a brush to indict the entire practice on the basis of that. As always, the most extreme examples (school shooters / suicides) get nearly all the press and media attention, while the overwhelming majority of people on these meds simply continue to live their now-productive lives in silence and anonymity.
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