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Forced Education in Homosexuality and Evolution Leads to Exodus of Mennonites from Quebec
LifeSite ^ | 8/17/07 | John-Henry Westen and Elizabeth O'Brien

Posted on 08/17/2007 12:15:16 PM PDT by ZGuy

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To: ZGuy; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; albertabound; ...

61 posted on 08/18/2007 5:00:06 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: taxcontrol

PRECISELY. All too often though evolution is taught as fact with ZERO room for anything that might dare question it.

Except Islam of course. The kooky libs will bend over backwards for them.


62 posted on 08/18/2007 5:05:54 AM PDT by tpanther
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To: DaveyB
re; 29

There is also no basis for evolution to be taught either - in fact origins are outside of the classical scientific method. Only operational science (i.e. observable - repeatable - verifiable) is truly science most everything else that calls itself science is secular religion looking for legitimacy and legal protection - not to mention government grants.

Sorry. You're never gonna sell that -- it's the truth, and you know that doesn't sell very well in the "educational" field.

63 posted on 08/18/2007 5:23:24 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Sorr)
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To: ZGuy

I don’t get it. When I was in Quebec the last time, they were predominantly devoutly Catholic. So how does the Evolution and Homosexuality agenda fit in with this? Has La Belle Provence changed *that* much over the past two decades?

Naturally, Catholics probably don’t have much time for Mennonites, but even so, at least these two issues would be a common baseline, surely?

Or am I *that* badly out-of-touch with the Home and Native Land?

*DieHard*


64 posted on 08/18/2007 5:25:45 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: Marie2
re: 39 When the earth and the universe were coming into being, what (how long) was a "day"? One hour, one year, 100 million, or billions of years? We don't know.

So how can you say Because the Bible says He created it in six days. Read Genesis 1. Not compatible with evolutionary theory. until those question are answered?

Remember, MEN, and MEN only named the 24 hours period as being a day, not God.

65 posted on 08/18/2007 5:58:14 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Sorr)
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To: Alouette
Are the Muslims also required to learn these subjects or do they get a pass?

When the guy from the Education Ministry shows up at the Madrassa, they cut off his head - end of problem.

66 posted on 08/18/2007 5:58:21 AM PDT by reg45
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To: awakened
“Homosexuality” in “health” class seems sort of like an oxymoron, doesn’t it?

Not really. I'm sure they teach about the plague, polio and ebola virus also.

67 posted on 08/18/2007 6:04:57 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Greg F
re; # 47 “In ...., social workers in ATLANTA, GEORGIA removed .... children from a (religous) family because the family used spanking as a form of discipline.”
68 posted on 08/18/2007 6:08:10 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Sorr)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Is that true? They are taking kids away in Atlanta because of spanking?


69 posted on 08/18/2007 6:49:43 AM PDT by Greg F (The Congress voted and it didn't count and . . . then . . . it didn't happen at all.)
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To: camerakid400

“Evolution should be taught in science class (there is no scientific basis for anything else).”


What would Mennonites teach ABOUT evolution?


70 posted on 08/18/2007 6:57:51 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Greg F
“Government tells them they can home school . . . but they can’t avoid taxes to support schools which teach anti-christian viewpoints like the legitimacy of homosexuality. Must support the schools but can’t use them.”

That’s our situation in Indiana, and it is the case with home schooling families who own property all over the USA.
71 posted on 08/18/2007 7:00:02 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: ZGuy
“After visiting the Mennonites in November, the Ministry of Education told the school that their teaching was not up to standard and threatened them with legal action . . “

We home school. 25+ year veterans at it. We are not Mennonites, but we have often used large segments of the Mennonite curriculum that is called “Rod & Staff.” I have no doubt others on these threads are familiar with it. We have used Rod & Staff in math, science, health and language arts. We thank God for the Mennonites who put that curriculum together.

I can guarantee that schools that use Rod & Staff Publishers material correctly and consistently have their academic standards above that of government schools.

What the Quebec government means by standards is that immorality and pseudoscience (evolution) are their standard.

72 posted on 08/18/2007 7:11:52 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: camerakid400
re; :57

I certainly accept evolution as God’s way of creating living things on this earth. If and when I eventually meet God, and he tells me that evolution is wrong, I’m confident (H)e will forgive me for believing the scientific evidence.

WOW!!!! It's gonna hit the fan now. The blind-fanatical evolutionists are gonna roast you alive.

How dare you allow God within a million miles of the "accident" most "evolutionists" claim as sciencally proven fact?

Do you realize that you have just accepted God as the designer in the Intelligent Design position?

That's a good start -- keep it going.

73 posted on 08/18/2007 7:21:02 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Sorr)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I think that is the position most scientists who are religious take. Does it not make sense? Sure it does. Scientists are not evil guys out to trick people with lies—if you read the facts for yourself, they make a good argument. I’m not converting to intelligent design-that is just creationism with a nicer name. I don’t understand why people can’t say evolution is God’s scientific method, whats wrong with that?


74 posted on 08/18/2007 7:47:00 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: rickdylan; DaveyB

Well, I guess I am unable to convince you guys that evolution is true. I will just say this. Michael Behe, one of the only real scientists who refused to believe in evolution, wrote a new book, and he basically gave up:

“Coyne remarked, “What has Behe now found to resurrect his campaign for ID? It’s rather pathetic, really. Basically, he now admits that almost the entire edifice of evolutionary theory is true: evolution, natural selection, common ancestry.”[3] Coyne noted Behe argued, “the genetic variation that fuels natural selection–mutation–is produced not by random changes in DNA, as evolutionists maintain, but by an Intelligent Designer. That is, he sees God as the Great Mutator.”


75 posted on 08/18/2007 7:47:21 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400
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Why does the designer necessarily have to be God. But if He is, then what difference does it make that "intelligent design (....) is just creationism with a nicer name."

Sounds a bit picky-picky to me. But if you want it tht way, it's OK with me. A least you have not cavalierly excluded God from the equation.

76 posted on 08/18/2007 8:57:32 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Sorr)
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To: John Leland 1789

That’s our situation in Indiana, and it is the case with home schooling families who own property all over the USA.
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We’ll be in the same situation in Florida.


77 posted on 08/18/2007 9:52:48 AM PDT by Greg F (-)
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To: camerakid400

Why must the government force children to learn Darwinism, especially when they can barely read, add or spell? What advantage does it give them?


78 posted on 08/18/2007 2:48:28 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“Remember, MEN, and MEN only named the 24 hours period as being a day, not God.”

no, the hebrew word for “day” means a 24 hour day everywhere else in the old testament.


79 posted on 08/18/2007 2:51:07 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: DaveyB

Now THAT is a great post. Well said!


80 posted on 08/18/2007 2:55:11 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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