Posted on 08/19/2007 4:18:19 AM PDT by Flavius
Armed police were called after a family visiting relatives were robbed by 10 masked men, two with guns.
The driver was parked near his parents' home in Eldon Road, Luton, on Thursday evening when a gang surrounded his car.
He fled on foot towards a nearby bridge but two of the offenders caught him and took his car keys, police said.
His brother and a friend also ran away but were not followed. Two girls aged 13 and six left in the car were made to hand over clothing and mobiles phones.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
“I worked hard to buy this car,I can always make some more kids.”Disgusting.
Ya know, we really don’t speak the same language.
‘For men who carry, do you think THEY would have left behind their six year old daughter? THAT is my point.’
That’s a different point from the one you made earlier. This one makes sense, the former one didn’t. In this case they may well have as they were muslims who traditionally don’t value their daughters enough to risk their lives for them.
Last year 50 people were murdered with guns in the UK compared to 11000 in the US. The only thing one can safely conclude form those figures is that we are very different countries who have and need differing solutions.
George Bernard Shaw
‘Ya know, we really don’t speak the same language.’
You’re right! I speak English, you speak American English. . . . . :)
The family attacked was Muslim? (shaking head)
Separated by more than that glad to say.
‘George Bernard Shaw’
What did he know, he was Irish!
‘Separated by more than that glad to say.’
Amen to that cousin. :)
Are you just here to be really obnoxious, or you just can’t help your self?
‘The family attacked was Muslim? (shaking head)’
And the attackers were ‘Black’. The long-standing West Indian population of Luton aren’t terribly keen on the johnny-cum-lately muslim population throwing their weight around. . . . .
‘Are you just here to be really obnoxious, or you just can’t help your self?’
No, I just like talking to people who think anyone who disagrees with their beliefs is obnoxoius.
LOL. Seriously, though, have you seen any crime stats for Britain lately? I’ve been looking and all the data I could find after a quick search was at least a few years old. I’m interested in seeing how the rates compare, not just in raw numbers, but in per capita rates.
A double post when you are correct isn't half as bad as otherwise. ;)
It was my first thought while reading. The men ran away leaving the young to fend for themselves against a group of thugs.
They will pay for it the rest of their lives in the eyes of those left behind. If even a slight bit of civilization has effected their upbringing, in their own minds also.
Here are the two most accurate sites IMHO:
http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page1.asp
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
From what I can see crime is stable in the UK and rising slightly in the US. Mugging and burglary are the biggest problems in the UK and murder and rape in the US.
The problem with comparing the UK and US in terms of crime is that although we can easily allow for the difference between a 60m and a 300m population, it is much harder to easily compare countries with vastly different population densities. The UK has on average 246 people per square kilometre compared to 31 in the US, thus it’s a bit like comparing Manhattan figures with Montana ones as we all know population density equals crime! :)
In NYS, where I live, we have something called a duty-to-retreat law on the books. I'd be interesting in seeing what crime rates in states with make-my-day laws have done in comparison to states like mine.
Murder rate? Well sure. that is true. It has been traditionally so for more than a few centuries. But this story isn't about murder, it's about crime and cowardice.
Let's compare violent and nonviolent crime rates. You will find that Great Britain has changed a bit from the one we were told about in our youth. It is, in fact, up there with many of the most dangerous places to live.
When the law disallows both the means and moral authority to defend one's self and property, crime and violence fill the void between common sense and the hoped for utopia.
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