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Inventor May Have Breakthrough in Killing Cancer Cells
WKYC.com ^ | August 20, 2007 | Michael O'Mara

Posted on 08/20/2007 8:23:48 PM PDT by Paved Paradise

Inventor from Erie, P.A. teams up with leading cancer center. The work has been quietly been going on for the last three years in a no-frills laboratory in Erie, Pennsylvania. Inventor, John Kanzius, working with Jim and Charlie Rutkowski, have been perfecting a device that will kill cancer cells with a radio frequency.

This humble workspace could soon become the epicenter of one of the most stunning scientific breakthroughs in cancer treatment in years.

Using the Kanzius RF machine and special nanoparticles, it appears that cancer cells can be targeted and killed without harming the rest of the body.

This is a deeply personal mission for John Kanzius. He is struggling to beat leaukemia. And he knows firsthand how tough standard treatments like chemotherapy and radiation can be on the body.

Kanzius told Channel 3's Mike O'Mara that, "If this ends up working they way it looks, it really could be the holy grail of cancer research."

The entire city of Erie is buzzing about John's invention. Two weekends ago, thousands turned out for a motorcycle rally called "Roar On The Shore". All the money is going to help John's cancer research.

Ralph Pontillo is the head of the Erie Manufacturers Association. He is proud that his city can help the Kanzius project.

"It's amazing, said Ralph, "that in the very near future someone is going to stick a pin on a map and say this is where cancer was cured. And that pin is going to be Erie, Pennsylvania. That blows your mind and that is inconceivable."

Former Erie Mayor, Joyce Savocchio, said "there are nights that I think about it and I can't go to sleep. It just enfolds you that you are on the brink of history and something so enormous that you can't imagine it."

The excitement is not limited to Erie, Pennsylvania. In Houston, Texas at the MD Anderson Cancer Center, a team of scientists believe that John Kanzius has the key to something extraordinary.

MD Anderson is one of the most respected cancer centers in the world. 79 thousand cancer patients were treated at the huge campus in Houston last year.

Doctor Steven Curley is leading the research team at MD Anderson. Dr. Curley is the author of over 110 publications and 30 book chapters, many dealing with the treatment of patients with hepotocellular cancer, gallbladder cancer, bile duct cancer, or liver metastases.

Curley is brimming with cautious optimism.

"If we can come up with ways of delivering these particles to the cancer cells, but not to normal cells," Curley said, "this treatment will work. There's not a doubt in my mind. Any kind of cancer, anywhere in the body!"

Doctor Curley's team is ready to publish their first results using laboratory animals. So far, the targeted nanoparticles and the Kanzius RF machine have passed every test.

"There is a great deal of work that has to be done", said Curley. "However, I suspect once the manuscripts are published, there's going to be a real rush of excitement about this whole process. I've already warned John to get ready because the floodgates are about to open."

Kanzius wants to make sure his invention does not get sidelined by an unsympathetic corporation that might not want see an effective treatment on the market.

Said Kanzius, "venture capitalists, big pharmaceuticals that might want to buy this to tempt me and stop the research, not going to happen. There is no amount of money that can buy me off. You can not put a price on a human life."

When the revolutionary treatment is ready for human clinical trials, you can bet that Erie, Pennsylvania will go to the front of the line. And why not, since the inventor lives just a few miles away.


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To: Bayou City

Forgot to add this is getting ready to go to phase III clinical trials, could be very positive but far away from curing all types of cancer. This is my opinion only.


51 posted on 08/20/2007 10:12:37 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: Sandreckoner
"If he’s the real deal he shouldn’t be propagating paranoid lunacy about “big pharma” trying to buy him out to “prevent an effective treatment.”

That is a classic trademark of a scam artist. Men in black break into his lab, steal his invention, then they get "investors" to help rebuild the device, which never seems to quite get there. They always need "just a few more" dealerships, shareholders, etc.

Probably another Joe Newman or Dennis Lee Free enery type scam artist except using a "cure all" medical device.

See Becoming a Con man of crackpot technology for fun and profit

52 posted on 08/20/2007 10:18:50 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJtex

See my posts #48 and 51...This might be for real!


53 posted on 08/20/2007 10:24:28 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: Nathan Zachary

This looks like legitimate research, look at my post #48 and click on the link to MD Anderson’s website, they are considered number 1 in the world in cancer research.


54 posted on 08/20/2007 10:27:49 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: Borax Queen
Kanzius wants to make sure his invention does not get sidelined by an unsympathetic corporation that might not want see an effective treatment on the market.

Said Kanzius, "venture capitalists, big pharmaceuticals that might want to buy this to tempt me and stop the research, not going to happen. There is no amount of money that can buy me off. You can not put a price on a human life."

fyi ping.

55 posted on 08/20/2007 10:28:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Paved Paradise
I am all for innovation and groundbreaking inventions made by the simplest “SCIENTIFIC” folks. The shunt that is still used today and has saved thousands of lives and livelihoods was invented by a father of a hydrocephalus child in his home.
See:
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2007/04/john_holter_brain_e.html

God Bless these folks in their research and attempts to eradicate cancer.

56 posted on 08/20/2007 10:29:47 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Great, but how does one do that?

I agree that the targeting is the hard part. Prostate cancer might be one of the first to be resolved. There's some specific antigens involved, and there's a lot of work going on to address exactly the selectivity issue you raised.

57 posted on 08/20/2007 10:39:38 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Bayou City
Some key points of how to become a con-man selling wishful thinking machines-

A)-Start with outrageous enough claims to filter the more skeptical people out as early as possible. But, be careful about making too many bogus scientific claims, or you may find self-righteous skeptics trying to debunk you - if this happens, tell your followers they (or any critics) are part of the conspiracy - maybe nitpick at fine points of their arguments, but don't ever respond to their main thrust.

B)- Claim you are not in it for the money, just to save humanity. Say you have already been offered huge sums, but want to sell it to the little guy (i.e. the gullible guy). Try to market it to older mid-western Christian farmers - they've always bought in in the past. Build excitement for something wonderful.

C)- Focus investors attention away from evaluating claims on technical grounds. The following distractions are recommended:

1. get them involved in political issues. Convince them you have some large secretive benefactor.
2. focus their attention on an elaborate multi-generational international conspiracy which has kept everyone pitching the device to fail. Make your audience outraged against the conspiracy, yet empowered that they can finally overcome it by giving you money.
3. talk about your valiant battles with the patent office or some government bureaucracy (that always warms people up)
4. get into religion quick (religious people are already taught to have faith) -appear to have God on your side
5. get people to focus on your theory rather than measurable evidence.
6. claim it already has been proven so you need not offer any proof Tell them you are done proving it and need big money to start mass production.
7. Write an autobiography (self-published, of course) where you can "control" the facts. When someone questions your shady past simply say, "Buy my book and learn the truth about what REALLY happened." Naive people won't question the "facts" because, after all, it's in a book. If your book is long enough, you may mesmerize them.

D)You must focus on the big conspiracy. It's very important to make people believe in the big conspiracy - because that's your excuse for past failures, present lack of evidence, the critics, and future delays. Locking horns with bureaucrats or the scientific community can distract from your lack of evidence and get you great free press. Make people believe exciting claims of bad guys wanting to steal or bury your ideas. - then claim you will destroy your prototypes and records rather than let them fall into the hands of the bad guys.

E)- Be bold, sell books, consider taking out full page ad or get on the radio. People will feel that something this out in the open can not possibly be a fly by night Con. The most successful cons are ones lasting for a few years not the quick cons.

F)-Watch your target market, Go after people predisposed to believing in conspiracy theories such as the militias, JFK conspiracy, and UFO cover-up groups.

G)-If you are forced to demonstrate some device, consider the following important tips: bore the skeptics right out of the room with long discourses on elementary science; claim you have some adjustments to make, yet; say it worked yesterday; run your machine for just a few seconds and move on to some other important point. - or do the Newman trick of openly hooking up input power and just promising it's less than what comes out.

There are a lot of cons out there, yet people never get tired of falling for them. These guys make millions scamming people who themselves are hoping to cash in.

This guy has already pulled out the conspiracy theory card, which should make everyone automatically suspicious.

58 posted on 08/20/2007 10:39:53 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I do see your point and agree with you 100%. I guess what I’m trying to point out is the research at MD seems to be legitimate and promising. I’ve been following cancer research lately as my sister is currently going through chemo for colon cancer.


59 posted on 08/20/2007 10:48:47 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: Bayou City
"The liver tumors were treated percutaneously or during surgery under ultrasound guidance using a novel LeVeen monopolar array needle electrode and an RF 2000 generator."

So what has this to do with this other guys claims?

Frequency generators are nothing new, and have been around for a long time. You can get a good one fairly cheap at radio shack in any range you want. You can even build one yourself if you've a mind to. There are all kinds of free schematics on the internet available for those who like to dabble with electronics.

60 posted on 08/20/2007 10:56:54 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
So what has this to do with this other guys claims?

Try to put the other guys claims out of your mind and look at the research. This has already received FDA approval after clinical trials I and II, not an easy accomplishment.

61 posted on 08/20/2007 11:10:58 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: Bayou City
OIC what he's all about now. He's the same guy who figured he could violate the second law of thermo dynamics. His Rf generator is nothing special, except being one HE made. That's the hitch.

Using RF to heat a targeted area is nothing new, unfortunately. Seems he has his "battles with the government patent office" going on as well, and has begun holding seminars to atract suckers- er I mean investors.
Kanzius was a former broadcast executive and claimed engineer.

I smell scam.

62 posted on 08/20/2007 11:16:12 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paved Paradise
"If we can come up with ways of delivering these particles to the cancer cells, but not to normal cells,"

LOL! I really did laugh out loud. That little "if," far from being a trivial problem, has already exhausted billions of dollars of research.

Ladies and gentlemen, hang on to your purses and wallets. My scam-o-meter is pegged.

63 posted on 08/20/2007 11:17:53 PM PDT by TChad
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To: WildcatClan
I must admit when I first started reading my initial thought was, “this is just another scam

MD Anderson is one of the cancer capitals of the world. If they are interested, that's good enough for me.

64 posted on 08/20/2007 11:22:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Bayou City
I don't doubt the real Docs research, but he isn't using a John Kanzius Special magic RF generator.

Kanzius isn't connected at all as far as I can see. Other than maybe some name dropping to sell his frequency generator, and no doubt some magic liquid to go along with it so victims can treat themselves at home.

I need to dig deeper to be sure however, there are 4 patent applications to read through, and dozens of search results to see what this guy is really up to.

65 posted on 08/20/2007 11:25:03 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: hinckley buzzard
Nowhere does it say in the reseach articles Bayou City linked to that they are interested in Kanzius' RF generator. In fact the reseach articles mention the use of a different RF generator.
66 posted on 08/20/2007 11:29:25 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paved Paradise

I hope the team is successful. I was treated with radiation after my lumpectomy. Unfortunately, “the cure was worse than the disease”. I developed an angiosarcoma due to the radiation and had to have my breast removed last month. Can’t fault the doctors since that was the accepted method of treatment.


67 posted on 08/20/2007 11:30:34 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: hinckley buzzard

In fact Doctor Steven Curley leading the research team at MD Anderson began his first trials 8 years ago. Nothing to do whatsoever with those other guys. I think they are using this Docs work to sell their magic machine, or rather sell “investment opportunities”


68 posted on 08/20/2007 11:33:23 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paved Paradise

Radio Frequencies, Magnetic Pulsing, and various other electronic devises have had success in treating and killing cancer cells. Wishing all the best to this endeavor! Pray that conventional medicine will some day embrace approaches other than the cut, poison, burn protocols that are the norm.

It is well to remember this: Chemo cures cancer and the earth is flat.


69 posted on 08/20/2007 11:33:33 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Dr. Frank fan

This is likely a dumb question:

If you kill the cancer cells, do you stop whatever is causing them to be created, or more to be created?


70 posted on 08/20/2007 11:41:32 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Dr. Frank fan

Could it be that the nanoparticles are containers for the chemo agent, and that the RF energy opens up the nanoparticles? Focus the RF energy at the cancer site and deliver the dose only to the bad cells.


71 posted on 08/20/2007 11:47:29 PM PDT by GregoryFul (how'd that get there?)
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To: Dr. Frank fan; All
I always thought the reason cancer cells were so hard to get rid of was because they were able to mutate their way away from antibodies attacking just them. It seems that would make it really difficult to only get the cancer cells. They must have also found identity properties the cancer cells can't escape from sharing.

God Bless 'em and hurry!

72 posted on 08/20/2007 11:50:39 PM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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To: Paved Paradise
You might want to visit the Life Extension Foundation:

The Life Extension Foundation: Disease Prevention And Treatment Protocols

Look under: "Health Concerns Selector"
73 posted on 08/21/2007 12:02:40 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Some key points of how to become a con-man selling wishful thinking...

Doesn't Al Gore & Global Warming just fit nicely with that?

74 posted on 08/21/2007 12:13:54 AM PDT by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: ConservativeMind

"Wasn’t there someone recently who was trying to do the same thing and found the salt water can burn?"

It was the same guy with the same 'invention'.

Water into fuel?

From that article:

"John Kanzius discovered that his radio frequency generator could release the oxygen and hydrogen from saltwater and create an incredibly intense flame."


75 posted on 08/21/2007 1:24:29 AM PDT by RebelTex (Help cure diseases: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548372/posts)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

I think you have a very good take on things. I was skeptical myself, but it certainly sounds as if some highly credentialed professionals in the field are more than interested.

Like you, I would like to know more as this is very interesting. He seems to be determined to do this on his own so that may explain the lack of details. The article speaks in terms of “if it is possible”, but I think there is more to it and he may have perhaps dialed into efficacious RF and nano particles already.

If he hasn’t, then I just can’t see the optimism and excitement this has generated at one of the most prodigious Centers in the USA and perhaps the world. You have to think the best in the field at the University of Texas would have been more skeptical than we are at first. So, that may be a good indicator that he is on to something big. Let’s hope and pray.


76 posted on 08/21/2007 1:25:11 AM PDT by WildcatClan (One vote, Three choices: 1) Socialism 2) Bush Redux 3) DUNCAN HUNTER)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
But yeah, there are some ifs involved. For one thing I still don't understand how you can possibly engineer (what I gather are) RF-sensitive nanoparticles capable of finding & attaching themselves to the category "any cancer cell".

Read the book, "The Body Electric", to see how many of the low-level functions of cells, bactreria, viruses, etc., in the body DO use electrical signals...

77 posted on 08/21/2007 4:05:08 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: D-fendr
If you kill the cancer cells, do you stop whatever is causing them to be created, or more to be created?

You just kill existing cancer cells. That means they won't multiply and become exponentially more cancer cells, which is what tumor growth is about.

Of course you don't stop normal cells from turning into cancer cells at some point. Because even if they are able to "tag" cancer cells, they likely wouldn't be able to tag "normal cells that are gonna turn into cancer cells a year from now". So no, cancer could presumably always come back. But one might hope that, 99.9% of the original cancer having been swept away, your body's immune system - and perhaps more RF treatments - would suffice in controlling what remains and what shows up later.

78 posted on 08/21/2007 4:52:30 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: MainFrame65

Ditto


79 posted on 08/21/2007 4:54:53 AM PDT by bvw
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To: MainFrame65

Yes, cruel and foolish both.


80 posted on 08/21/2007 4:55:41 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Dr. Frank fan

Here’s how you do it. You induce mass hysteria. Sleepless mayors, excited chambers of commerce, big motorcycle rallies, stir up into a froth hope and local pride. All the mass support convinces the cancer cells they are dead.


81 posted on 08/21/2007 5:00:52 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Paved Paradise
Thanks for posting this. I am currently being treated for lung cancer, and I am not a candidate for surgery or radiation because of reduced lung function. I hope this goes to human trials quickly.

Carolyn

82 posted on 08/21/2007 6:54:36 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Paved Paradise

If MD Anderson is interested there must be something to it.


83 posted on 08/21/2007 8:52:56 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Paved Paradise

BMFLR


84 posted on 08/21/2007 10:43:25 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: biggerten

If people from M.D. Anderson are excited, it may be the real deal.


85 posted on 08/21/2007 11:01:37 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: TexanToTheCore

“John Kanzius, a former broadcast executive from Pennsylvania, attracted media attention in 2007 upon claims to having developed a way to produce energy by burning saltwater, by means of a radio frequency generator that releases the oxygen and hydrogen from saltwater and create an intense flame. Skeptics propose that the process would consume more energy than it would create, and Kanzius has admitted that this is currently the case, however the specifics of the process are still unreleased while Kanzius applies for a patent.[1] He states that the discovery was accidental while researching the use of radio waves for the treatment of cancer.[2]
Kanzius owns a patent for an Enhanced Systems and Methods for RF-Induced Hyperthermia[3] which describes potential medical uses of radio waves for diseases such as cancer.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kanzius

A likely fraud.


86 posted on 08/21/2007 12:57:35 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: vbmoneyspender

Okay - this is the best I can do. Pretend I have a company that has developed technology that will zap cancer cells via laser lights that actually can be directly internally (this is a lame simplistic scenario, but I just want to give the gist). Imagine I have had several investors put millions into my company and the research I have done. Now, when I start selling my techniques, and the machines that perform the procedures, my investors (and me and my company) will become very wealthy.... but along comes Mr. Inventor from Erie, PA and he has just developed a radiofrequency method of destroying the cancer. It works better than my stuff.

Now, what do you think happens to my products, techniques, etc.? No one will want them because they will want the other guy’s stuff. My investors are out a lot of money.

This is the way I understand it.


87 posted on 08/21/2007 5:11:00 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
Edinbourgh ping!!!!

Mike

88 posted on 08/21/2007 5:13:42 PM PDT by MichaelP (Lets go Fred...)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Just hang onto your hat and wait til the published results come out in the next couple of weeks. Also, they are going to begin the trials with humans.

This is not hooey and this guy is not just out there blowing his own horn. There are other people that are excited about this - professionals that understand the potential.


89 posted on 08/21/2007 5:14:18 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

After watching my mom go through chemo, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but you do what you gotta do.


90 posted on 08/21/2007 5:15:11 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: secretagent

Very interesting. I wonder if the doctors who believe this has some great potential know this.


91 posted on 08/21/2007 5:17:22 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Dr. Frank fan

bookmark


92 posted on 08/21/2007 5:23:58 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Paved Paradise

Prayers for your Mom.


93 posted on 08/21/2007 5:24:19 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: epow

Prayers for your son.


94 posted on 08/21/2007 5:27:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Paved Paradise

“After watching my mom go through chemo, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but you do what you gotta do.”

We teach alternatives to “conventional” cancer treatment. We talk with people regularly who have cancer and have gone...are going...are getting ready to go through chemo. Sometimes people opt out of chemo. Too often they still choose whatever the doctor says because they are afraid to do anything else.

We teach treatments that have a successful track record. We work with our clients through their treatment if they opt for alternatives. We also work with some who choose chemo but still want anything alternative they can do. Occassionally we find a doctor who listens, or is in tune with alternative approaches.

When the oncologist sends a patient home or to hospice with a prescription for morphine and tells the patient to get affairs in order, conventional medicine is admitting failure. For those patients in this group who choose to go alternative treatments, the success rate is 50%.


95 posted on 08/21/2007 5:29:35 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: nycgal

Prayers for you as well.


96 posted on 08/21/2007 5:29:42 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Paved Paradise

One thing I miss about dan rather is that he would breathlessly announce a new cure for cancer about once a month. never a follow-up story, as I recall.


97 posted on 08/21/2007 5:34:12 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Paved Paradise
"If we can come up with ways of delivering these particles to the cancer cells, but not to normal cells," Curley said, "this treatment will work. There's not a doubt in my mind. Any kind of cancer, anywhere in the body!"

People have long been hoping to find a special epitope specific to cancer cells that could be used to target them with a drug or other means of killing them. If such were the case, cancer cells could be selectively targeted. Even if the epitope were expressed by other cells but in lesser numbers, it would be a valuable advance.
98 posted on 08/21/2007 5:34:55 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: CDHart

“Cheap, safe cancer-fighting drug” —
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1778434/posts


99 posted on 08/21/2007 5:50:14 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Paved Paradise

There are many different forms of chemo.


100 posted on 08/21/2007 5:51:36 PM PDT by bvw
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