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Why I Left My Beta Husband
MSN Lifestyle ^ | August 2007 | Amy Brayfield

Posted on 08/29/2007 2:18:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob

A few years ago, my husband, Mark, and I were at one of those hip downtown restaurants sipping mojitos and nibbling on lime-spiked seviche when one of my bosses appeared from a cloud of Cuban-cigar smoke and patted my shoulder. When I introduced him to Mark, he naturally asked what he did for a living. We both froze.

"I do some freelancing," Mark said.

"He studied film at NYU," I said at the same time.

Mark looked at me and shrugged. "I stay home with our daughter," he said, as my colleague quietly balked.

"He makes it possible for me to do my job," I said, laughing. But inside, I was mortified. Technically, I had it all back then, including a gorgeous toddler and a cool job.

What I didn't have was a husband I felt proud of.

(Excerpt) Read more at lifestyle.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: divorce; feminism; marriage; narcissism; narcissist; relationships
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To: durasell
“I would bet ... that hubby #2 is more ‘business friendly’ ...”

Because he paints and translates the poetry of Pablo Neruda? In the business circles with which I am familiar, a woman with a husband who spends his days like that would first garner others’ bewilderment, then pity, and - finally - scorn.

201 posted on 08/29/2007 8:09:21 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: visualops
Exactly. No man I think, will measure up to her fantasy. Because he doesn't exist. To me the story is good illustration of the rule that some people are better off not getting married a second time. If you don't have the maturity, the commitment, and the strength to give yourself to another human being and spend the rest of your life with them, then a relationship isn't something you should be in. Some people never learn that lesson and they go from one relationship to another searching for the ideal love of their life, only to find themselves repeatedly disappointed in the quest.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

202 posted on 08/29/2007 8:10:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sicon
while I put together a fancy dinner of organic rutabaga soup with apple crème fraîche swirls on top

Any real man who came home from work and found that garbage on the table would shout, "Woman of the house! Do ya take me for a rabbit who can live on watery weeds? Feed that slop to the hogs, and break out the steaks!"

Or, "You'll get no beef from me until meat's back on the menu!"

Of course, a man who goes 3-4 years unable to find a job isn't much of a man. But she doesn't deserve one, either!

203 posted on 08/29/2007 8:11:31 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: riverdawg

Depends if you’re in a business where the major customers make or market perfume and lipstick, and your co-workers are mostly female.


204 posted on 08/29/2007 8:13:23 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: swain_forkbeard

“... she traded him in for a newer model.”

Seems like she traded a 1987 Yugo for the 1988 version.


205 posted on 08/29/2007 8:14:09 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Xenalyte

ok. lol


206 posted on 08/29/2007 8:18:33 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: riverdawg
Because he paints and translates the poetry of Pablo Neruda?

My guess is because, unlike hubby #1, hubby #2 owns at least one suit and possibly shaves and gets his hair cut occasionally.

207 posted on 08/29/2007 8:18:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: durasell
“Depends if ... your co-workers are mainly female.”

From the businesswomen I know, the bewilderment, pity and scorn for this woman would be more intense than from the businessmen.

208 posted on 08/29/2007 8:19:58 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Aquinasfan

We disagree and quoting the Bible does not bring agreement in this case.


209 posted on 08/29/2007 8:22:57 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: HamiltonJay
My sister in law says things that make me wonder if she is joking. For instance, she needs a guy who is 6 foot at least so she can wear her 4" heels. Naturally I assume she is joking but I really don't think so.

For some reason too many women think they are way better than they are. I actually had a recent conversation with some of my single buddies and we were wondering why we were not more picky. One mentioned how a fat unattractive girl will show a ton of cleavage and have no problem coming up to an attractive guy and throwing down moves. They will even wait until the guys beer goggles are 4" thick and move back in. Guys are way more intimidated of good looking women.

210 posted on 08/29/2007 8:23:23 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: riverdawg

Not in that world. I have a passing knowledge of these types of people. Best case storyline is she lands the Neruda fan a job writing for some cable show or soap opera. Worst case is he spends the rest of his life arranging dinner parties for her as she moves from magazines to television to movies.


211 posted on 08/29/2007 8:26:43 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: writmeister
She has no respect for the sacrifices her ex-husband made so that she could have her career. I would suspect that it is a little hard to claw your way into the film industry when you are caring for a small child.

Sacrifices? What sacrifices? This guy didn't do anything! No cleaning, cooking, laundry, changing the baby's clothes, nothing. He was a freeloading bum who sat at home all day!

If he at least showed some ambition towards film-making, maybe she would have had a little more respect for him but he couldn't even do that! And I don't think it would have been that difficult for him to work on his "craft" while taking care of a child. Little children don't have to stay indoors all of the time.

212 posted on 08/29/2007 8:29:26 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

My guess would be that her new boyfriend is younger and better looking.


213 posted on 08/29/2007 8:36:16 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: goldstategop
Some people never learn that lesson and they go from one relationship to another searching for the ideal love of their life, only to find themselves repeatedly disappointed in the quest

Lack of respect, lust, jealously, disappointment with one's self, selfishness.

S*x has always sold but I believe that we have crossed a threshold into "normal" or polite society.
I will be the first to admit that I really enjoy the ladies, alot. And the ladies, they're putting it out there, big time.
It's different from when I was younger and it's not because as women age they become, how you say, "more free"?, they start young and go downhill quickly.
There are women that are not taken to it but are still affected by the trend.

I've scene it close up, they ask, "where are the men chasing me, buying me things, taking me places..." ? And why not? it's in the magazine, the paper, the movies, the tv, the workplace, the neighborhood. Women in their 30's are suddenly critical about wasting their lives not being where they want to be but it is selfishness. The don't want a family, they don't want children they only want for themselves and they want what (they think) others have...

and I am not any better.

214 posted on 08/29/2007 8:43:16 AM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: 6SJ7

Most modern poetry has to be translated even after it’s been translated.


215 posted on 08/29/2007 8:45:08 AM PDT by Equality 7-2521 ("Ron Paul, the only rational Republican" --BadEye)
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To: durasell
“... she lands the Neruda fan a job ...”

There is no indication hubby #2 is any more interested in a job than hubby #1 was. She said she couldn’t be proud of her (first) husband because she didn’t like being “the man” in the relationship. And somehow that’s all going to change because the latest loser cleans up well and looks good in a suit?

216 posted on 08/29/2007 8:48:29 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Caipirabob
She goes right back out and marries exactly the same kind of guy!

Actually she doesn't marry the same type of guy.
Her former husband was not satisfied to be a stay-at-home dad, was embarrassed about it, let it effect his marriage AND his wife's outlook.
The man she married afterward is completely satisfied with being a stay-at-home dad and makes no bones about it.

Was she right to dump the first husband? I don't think so. That is one thing that is wrong with todays society. There is no sense of committment in many marriages. It's not, "till death do us part", it's, "till our concerns of the day take us apart".

Marriage is not something to be gone into lightly. When vows are said in front of family and G*d, to me those vows are made to be kept, through thick and thin, in sickness and in health, through the good times AND the bad times.

Just my 2 cents worth.

217 posted on 08/29/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: riverdawg
Because he paints and translates the poetry of Pablo Neruda? In the business circles with which I am familiar, a woman with a husband who spends his days like that would first garner others’ bewilderment, then pity, and - finally - scorn.

I've spent afternoons translating poetry. Not Neruda, but Schiller.

218 posted on 08/29/2007 8:49:45 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: cajungirl
We disagree and quoting the Bible does not bring agreement in this case.

Well, if you've ever been married, you can test Jesus' words against your experience.

I find that sacrificing my personal preferences to my wife's can be tiring in the short run, but more deeply gratifying in the long run. And sometimes I find that she's actually right (!). Placing my preferences over my wife's is pleasurable momentarily, but unsatisfying in the long run. At the very least, a habit of self-sacrifice strengthens the will. One is freed to do what is right, and less bound by one's base appetites.

Now, it's not wise to always give in to your spouse regarding personal preferences, but it's a good general rule. Most people err the other way. And non-negotiables should almost always not be negotiated.

219 posted on 08/29/2007 8:51:11 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Kozak
Beta husbands? I thought they were all VHS.

Beta husbands have a smaller cartridge.

220 posted on 08/29/2007 9:03:16 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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