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Shock figures show 11 to 13-year-olds drinking twice as much alcohol as five years ago (U.K.)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | August 31, 2007

Posted on 08/31/2007 10:41:45 AM PDT by Stoat

Shock figures show 11 to 13-year-olds drinking twice as much alcohol as they did five years ago

Last updated at 15:02pm on 31st August 2007

 

Child drinking

Tens of thousands of 11-year-olds are getting drunk at least once a month

 

A "hard core" of young teenagers is drinking to increasingly dangerous levels every week, it has emerged.

 

 

Tens of thousands of 11-year-olds are also getting drunk at least once a month, despite a drive to cut soaring numbers of young drinkers.

Four out of 10 pupils aged 11-15 have tried smoking at least once, and a majority of young smokers are illegally served in shops.

 

The official survey of tobacco, alcohol and drug use among 11-to 15-year-olds reveals the number of school-age drinkers is falling overall but a hard core is consuming more each year.

Regular drinkers aged 11-13 are consuming more than 10 units a week — double the amount in 2001 — while 6,000 11-year-olds also smoke once a week.

Older teenagers who drink regularly are also downing 11.4 units a week, a rise of one unit on last year and the equivalent of five and a half pints. Half of this group are binge-drinking up to two days a week.

The Government said the figures are a success story because 45 per cent of school pupils have never drunk alcohol, a rise from 39 per cent four years ago.

But campaigners said tens of thousands of young people are still damaging their health by increasing their consumption.

Frank Soodeen, of Alcohol Concern, said: “The overall number of young drinkers may be going down but there is now a core of young people who are finding it much easier to get hold of alcohol because of a lack of parental support and the wide availability of drink.”

Today's report shows that one in five pupils is getting drunk once a month, including four per cent of 11-year-olds.

With more than 611,000 children this age in England, it suggests almost 24,500 could be drinking to excess every week.

The survey of 8,200 pupils at 288 schools shows that nine per cent of 11- to 15-year-olds are smoking regularly. The majority buy cigarettes from shops.

The legal age for buying tobacco will rise to 18 in a month but Amanda Sandford, of lobby group Action on Smoking and Health, said shopkeepersare likely to break the law.

“There are huge problems here with retailers not carrying out thorough checks,” she said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alcohol; britain; children; drinking; england; greatbritain; uk; unitedkingdom
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Very sad and unsettling....when I was 11,  the thought of drinking, much less getting drunk, never entered my mind.  I was too busy building treehouses and riding my bicycle.

The article naturally causes me to wonder if the trends are similar here in the USA.

1 posted on 08/31/2007 10:41:56 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Gabz

Sad Momlist ping :-(


2 posted on 08/31/2007 10:42:42 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Say, how’s that prohibition thing working out, eh?


3 posted on 08/31/2007 10:43:08 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Stoat
Shock figures show 11 to 13-year-olds drinking twice as much alcohol as they did five years ago

So how much were these kids drinking when they were 6 to 8 years old? \sarc

4 posted on 08/31/2007 10:44:01 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Stoat

Not surprising when you think about it.

Five years ago they were 6 to 8 years old. Hard to get the guy to take your fake ID when you can’t even see over the counter.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 10:45:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Scratch a liberal, find a dhimmi)
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To: Stoat
STELLA!!! STELLAAAAAA!!!

6 posted on 08/31/2007 10:45:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Stoat; Tax-chick; Tijeras_Slim; tioga

With all of the underage drinking in Harry Potter, it's no wonder kids are drinking more.

7 posted on 08/31/2007 10:46:29 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: Stoat
Four out of 10 pupils aged 11-15 have tried smoking at least once, and a majority of young smokers are illegally served in shops.

That sounds pretty much like my junior-high years, and my mother's, too.

8 posted on 08/31/2007 10:47:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: Zeppelin

My daughter, who is now sixteen, likes to tell me of the time that thinking it was apple juice, drank out of a cup of beer on the kitchen table during a Christmas party. Now when she sees me with a beer she just says; how can you drink that stuff. So far, so good.


9 posted on 08/31/2007 10:47:36 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Stoat

The official survey of tobacco, alcohol and drug use among 11-to 15-year-olds reveals the number of school-age drinkers is falling overall but a hard core is consuming more each year.


How much can you really believe in a survey, especially to 11 to 15 year olds who want to brag?


10 posted on 08/31/2007 10:48:32 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: CholeraJoe; Stoat
And they're celebrating Earth Day, too. The decline of civilization as we know it.

Seriously, the article say that fewer preteen are drinking - while a small group are real drunks. One suspect that those have alcoholic parents, if they have any parents about at all.

11 posted on 08/31/2007 10:49:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: massgopguy

just wait until she’s in college. about face!

(make ya nervous some?)


12 posted on 08/31/2007 10:50:09 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: CholeraJoe

-you mean butterbeer was alchohol?


13 posted on 08/31/2007 10:50:26 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Stoat

Why is it not considered Labour’s fault? If Thatcher were in power during such a thing that would be all people would talk about.


15 posted on 08/31/2007 10:50:47 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Stoat

How much did they drink when they were 6-8 years old?


16 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:01 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
How much can you really believe in a survey, especially to 11 to 15 year olds who want to brag?

So, the title should read: "Shock figures show 11 to 13 year olds bragging more than they did five years ago"?

:-)

 

17 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:04 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Zeppelin

HALF!


18 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:25 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: tioga

Yes, my dear. Don’t you remember Winky the elf getting plowed on it in “Goblet of Fire?”


19 posted on 08/31/2007 10:54:18 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: CholeraJoe

When I first saw that picture, my first thought was “She’s not drinking it”.


20 posted on 08/31/2007 10:57:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: CholeraJoe

ohhhhhhhh, you are RIGHT, I remember now.....


21 posted on 08/31/2007 10:58:48 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Sherman Logan

LOL


22 posted on 08/31/2007 10:59:46 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: AppyPappy

It’s really Emma, but I think the photo was staged.


23 posted on 08/31/2007 11:00:45 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: ikka
Why is it not considered Labour’s fault? If Thatcher were in power during such a thing that would be all people would talk about.

Most likely for the same reasons as the same sorts of things happen here in the USA.....as far as the media is concerned, NOTHING is the fault of the Left / the Dems, EVERYTHING that's bad is the fault of Conservatives / Republicans.

24 posted on 08/31/2007 11:00:59 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Sherman Logan
...though not being able to see over the counter is a common thing for adult dwarfs :)


(38 inch actor Mikey Post)

25 posted on 08/31/2007 11:01:27 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Stoat

First time I got drunk was when I was 18. I also went way passed drunk, too.


26 posted on 08/31/2007 11:03:21 AM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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To: Stoat

How do they know this? Did they ask 11-13 y/o boys?


27 posted on 08/31/2007 11:03:53 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Stoat

My brother-in-law was visiting our house with his 13 year old son, and he was trying to give his son a beer.

I just looked at him and said “Not in my house”. I told my husband what happened, and he said “good for you” and backed me up (of course).

My brother-in-law isn’t welcome in my home anymore.

I feel sorry for his kids.


28 posted on 08/31/2007 11:05:16 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: CholeraJoe

There is no drinking in Harry Potter.

If the actress drinks, that’s a different subject.


29 posted on 08/31/2007 11:06:22 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: CindyDawg
How do they know this? Did they ask 11-13 y/o boys?

Unfortunately, this sparse article doesn't go into detail pertaining to the study's methodology.

30 posted on 08/31/2007 11:06:38 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: CholeraJoe

There are other pictures of her drinking. It’s really common for teens over there. She suffering from the Christina Ricci syndrome now. The minute she became legal, the stalkers lost interest. Luckily, Ricci could act. ahem.


31 posted on 08/31/2007 11:07:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: luckystarmom

Butterbeer contains low amounts of alcohol.


32 posted on 08/31/2007 11:07:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Stoat

I don’t get the problem here...

I’m a non-drinker and constantly get chastized and belittled for it. “Hey, there’s nothing wrong with it! It’s GOOD for you!...”

so what’s the problem? What makes it okay for an 18 yr. old to consume alcohol when it was a bad thing just ONE day before?

Just throwing this out tongue in cheek...


33 posted on 08/31/2007 11:08:14 AM PDT by KingRonnie9
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To: luckystarmom
I feel sorry for his kids.

And I feel sorry for you as well.

Life can be tough enough without having such discord within one's own family.

May God Bless you and yours, as you've done the right thing, which, as is quite often the case, not the easy thing to do.

34 posted on 08/31/2007 11:10:09 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: luckystarmom

There is loads of drinking in the books. Hagrid, Professor Trelawney, Winky the House elf and Professor Slughorn are all alcoholics. The kids drink butterbeer, (which is intoxicating BTW See “Goblet of Fire”), wine, mead and firewhiskey.


35 posted on 08/31/2007 11:11:26 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: CholeraJoe

I meant the kids, and there is different things about butterbeer. Some things say it contains alcohol and others say that it doesn’t make humans drunk, but it does house elfs.

I figure butterbeer is like rootbeer, but magical.


36 posted on 08/31/2007 11:13:44 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Stoat

Well, if the kids had a healthy past time - like shooting guns, they wouldn’t be sitting around drinking.


37 posted on 08/31/2007 11:14:40 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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If I had to live in the UK I’m sure I would be a hopeless alcoholic, if not just plain hopeless.


38 posted on 08/31/2007 11:15:02 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: AppyPappy

Emma’s making a BBC movie right now “Ballet Slippers.” Who cares if she can act? She’s got millions in the bank and aced her college entrance exams.


39 posted on 08/31/2007 11:15:28 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: luckystarmom

The kids drank wine and mead in “Half Blood Prince” and firewhiskey in “Deathly Hallows.”


40 posted on 08/31/2007 11:17:02 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: Stoat

I remember my cousin and I finding a few jugs of hard cider in my grandparents cellar. Alcohol content was probably about 3%. Deceptively good tasting stuff until the headache later. We were about eight or nine then. Taught me a lesson. I didn’t have another drink for twenty some years. Smoking was another thing. Most of the boys I grew up with tried it one time or another and some took up smoking a pipe or having a chew. Very few smoked cigarettes as they were too expensive. I tried a chaw once but didn’t know not to swallow the juice. I was sick as a dog for a couple of days. Never tried it again.


41 posted on 08/31/2007 11:19:43 AM PDT by Leg Olam
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Well, if the kids had a healthy past time - like shooting guns, they wouldn’t be sitting around drinking.

I had fired my first .22 at sometime around age 7 as I recall, and have amassed a nice collection of firearms since.  I've never spent much time sitting around drinking because there's so much else to do....you're probably quite right.

42 posted on 08/31/2007 11:19:58 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

My mom use to put rum in my bottle when I was an infant to get me to sleep. Now, the only hard liquor I like is rum.


43 posted on 08/31/2007 11:21:17 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Stoat

They have turned to the bottle because global warming is so depressing.


44 posted on 08/31/2007 11:22:28 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: CholeraJoe

I don’t remember that, but maybe my son does. He remembers all things Harry Potter. I remember the adults drinking, but not the kids (except the butterbeer).

However, in the “Deathly Hallows” they were acting pretty much like adults and they were 17. It’s kind of like it’s okay to drink when you are 18 and in the army.

It wasn’t like they were 11 years old and going around getting drunk.

It certainly didn’t make an impression on me, but I’ll have to ask my kids.


45 posted on 08/31/2007 11:22:37 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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My mom use to put rum in my bottle when I was an infant to get me to sleep.

These days, if word of that ever got out she would probably be arrested for 'child abuse'.

It probably worked just fine and, in the amounts she used, posed no health risk.  Another sad reflection of the hysteria of our times.

46 posted on 08/31/2007 11:24:23 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: CholeraJoe

It’s one thing to be a poor actor and it’s another to be a poor actor and not know it.

Anyway, the English have a different standard that Americans. The people playing the Weasley’s would do well in America whereas Watson and Radcliffe would only do well in Englnd. We would consider the latter “stiff”.

I saw the last movie this week and was disappointed in the acting. The story was pretty good but there was a lot of “going through the motions”. The exception was the person playing Luna who I suspect really is Luna in real life. My son told me after the movie that her father was an Ewok.


47 posted on 08/31/2007 11:24:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Reagan79

I really wonder what my kids would say if they were ask if they had alcohol.

I don’t drink much, but we were on vacation in San Antonio staying at a hotel on the river walk and I ordered several margaritas at a restaurant on the river walk. My kids were shocked, and they all wanted to know what I was drinking.

I gave them little drops of the margarita. 2 of my kids said “Oh, yuck!!!”, and then one of my daughters said “Yum!!!” I’m going to have to watch out for her.


48 posted on 08/31/2007 11:25:57 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Stoat

Actually she claims the pediatrician told her to do that, sometimes I wonder though : )


49 posted on 08/31/2007 11:26:19 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Stoat

It wouldn’t surprise me at all. All the trends seem to point to degradation of the culture. And once the snowball gets rolling, it’s hard to stop it.

Unfortunately, I think the only thing that will wake the nation up is something so horrific (terrorist acts, AIDS-type epidemics, etc.) that people have little choice but to turn back to God and traditional values.


50 posted on 08/31/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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