Skip to comments.Papers Please: Arrested At Circuit City (Donations welcome, the ACLU will get most of it)
Posted on 09/03/2007 3:19:20 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
Today was an eventful day. I drove to Cleveland, reunited with my fathers side of the family and got arrested. More on that arrested part to come.
For the labor day weekend my father decided to host a small family reunion. My sister flew in from California and I drove in from Pittsburgh to visit my father, his wife and my little brother and sister. Shortly after arriving we packed the whole family into my fathers Buick and headed off to the grocery store to buy some ingredients to make monkeybread. (Its my little sisters birthday today and that was her cute/bizare birthday request.)
Next to the grocery store was a Circuit City. (The Brooklyn, Ohio Circuit City to be exact.) Having forgotten that it was my sisters birthday I decided to run in and buy her a last minute gift. I settled on Disneys Cars game for the Nintendo Wii. I also needed to purchase a Power Squid surge protector which I paid for separately with my business credit card. As I headed towards the exit doors I passed a gentleman whose name I would later learn is Santura. As I began to walk towards the doors Santura said, Sir, I need to examine your receipt. I responded by continuing to walk past him while saying, No thank you.
As I walked through the double doors I heard Santura yelling for his manager behind me. My father and the family had the Buick pulled up waiting for me outside the doors to Circuit City. I opened the door and got into the back seat while Santura and his manager, whose name I have since learned is Joe Atha, came running up to the vehicle.
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Let the cops come, that’s the way it’s supposed to work and that’s when I’ll show them my receipt. But you go ahead and knuckle under on this one, and then a few more on down the road until what used to be this country is just a memory.
A retail store is not “public” property. Somebody or some entity owns it- sorry to inform you
You talk a big line till you are cuffed in the back seat wetting your pants.
“The Constitution doesnt govern the conduct of private entities.”
Laws do that and those laws are regulated under the Constitution. Under your scenario There’s no difference between a store wanting to check MY bag that contains MY personal property after I have exchanged cash for it and them strip searching a kid in the back room because they saw him scratch his butt and thought he was shoplifting.
“”A retail store is not public property. Somebody or some entity owns it- sorry to inform you””
You are being too literal, but if you consider yourself open to search everytime you set foot on private property, hang a sign around your neck, because the girls at Burger King or even me when you knock on my door may not instantly recognize your submissiveness, or our power, whichever way you argue that view.
For the cops to arrest me they have to have reasonable suspicion that I have committed a crime. My receipt is proof that I paid for the goods and didn’t commit a crime.
Point taken. But the laws that apply in this situation are regulated by the Constitution.
Scrounging for dinner. Back later.
It is being open to search on PUBLIC property that has me worried.
Exactly! now may I see that receipt?
How about the other shit that some people stuff in their bags on the way.
Bags, pants ... if it’s shoplifting, deal with it as such. Someone who was just handed a receipt and walked directly to the door hasn’t done anything wrong - leave ‘em alone. They’re not checking the contents of your briefs, right?
Of course stores don’t want to get ripped off by shoplifters. However, most stores have hidden cameras and undercover shoppers to help prevent loss.
When you buy a high priced gadget they are usually behind lock and key and you have to ask a representative for one and purchase it at that counter. You’re not allowed to walk around the store with it in hand until you’ve purchased it.
So I’m completely on the side of this man and his story. This is still the USA and we are protected from unlawful search and seizure.
Well he didn’t actually do anything suspicious except not show his receipt to the man at the door. But what does that say about our society if we have to just shut up and obey every lame rule that comes our way?
I would guess that the majority of US citizens aren’t shoplifters, but we have to kowtow to the shop owner because of the few who are. Why? Doesn’t that just piss you off a little?