Posted on 09/03/2007 3:19:20 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
Today was an eventful day. I drove to Cleveland, reunited with my father’s side of the family and got arrested. More on that arrested part to come.
For the labor day weekend my father decided to host a small family reunion. My sister flew in from California and I drove in from Pittsburgh to visit my father, his wife and my little brother and sister. Shortly after arriving we packed the whole family into my father’s Buick and headed off to the grocery store to buy some ingredients to make monkeybread. (It’s my little sister’s birthday today and that was her cute/bizare birthday request.)
Next to the grocery store was a Circuit City. (The Brooklyn, Ohio Circuit City to be exact.) Having forgotten that it was my sister’s birthday I decided to run in and buy her a last minute gift. I settled on Disney’s “Cars” game for the Nintendo Wii. I also needed to purchase a Power Squid surge protector which I paid for separately with my business credit card. As I headed towards the exit doors I passed a gentleman whose name I would later learn is Santura. As I began to walk towards the doors Santura said, “Sir, I need to examine your receipt.” I responded by continuing to walk past him while saying, “No thank you.”
As I walked through the double doors I heard Santura yelling for his manager behind me. My father and the family had the Buick pulled up waiting for me outside the doors to Circuit City. I opened the door and got into the back seat while Santura and his manager, whose name I have since learned is Joe Atha, came running up to the vehicle.
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#1, Once you purchased the item it was yours. They may have a right to demand to search bags of persons leaving store, but as for demanding a receipt, I don’t believe so. (I am not an Ohio lawyer)
#2, Should have shown the cop your DL. You turned a $50,000 damages case against the store into a questionable matter. Exercising a right is never the smart thing to do when it is the stupid thing to do. Ohio may have law requiring you to provide “identification document” to LEO on demand.
#3, In most states, when the manager hindered/physically prevented you leaving and told you you could not leave, he arrested you, whether or not word arrest was ever used. You had $50,000 false arrest case going for a while.
#4, Store’s rights probably changed (diminished) when you physically left the building.
#5, Get a Real OHIO lawyer, not FRadvice. Sue the store. Criminal matter will vanish overnight.
Should have shown his SS Card and went on his way..
A store must comply with current laws.
What does the Ohio law state about demanding inspections of personal articles when leaving a store?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Seriously, was it worth it to put his young siblings into all this and for what.He’s stupid, just show your receipt and file a complaint later to ACLU or hire a lawyer if you can afford one.
Ohio law states all he must inform the officer is his name and address and date of birth.
The police officer exists to enforce laws, not make them up.
I read the article in its entirety b/4 any post. What was quoted there was for a specific incident which was not what was involved in this suspicious incident (re; the cop being called).
Relating the request for a driver’s license to driving in this case is misguided.
I know that different people have different ideas about being searched when out in public, personally, I don’t allow it myself.
The main purpose of checking the receipt is to stop employee theft. Cashiers fail to actually scan items and just bag them. Rather than assume the responsibility of monitoring the cashiers they place the burden on their customer.
I’ve had Best Buy security do this. They watched me buy two DVDs and walk to the exit. There they asked for the receipt.
A tactic that seems to get the message across is to return the items. Talking to the managers is a waste of time until they see sales reversed because of their asinine policy.
Agreed.
Really?
So nice to see all of the sheep that commented on this thread.
If ever it comes down to a real fight, please don’t pick my foxhole to sit in. I want to know someone is going to be there when the going gets tough.
I was serious. What if the ACLU is setting these up for fundraisers?
Demanding he produce anything to the officer is more than misguided; that, in itself, was against the law. The law states that a citizen must only provide a name, address, and date of birth. When operating a motor vehicle, then the officer has the right to demand a driver's license.
My thought as well.
Walmart is notorious for this and yeah it pisses me off.
I suppose they have to do it and my response could be...well I could just refuse to shop there.
As this guy could have done.
“”They watched me buy two DVDs and walk to the exit. There they asked for the receipt.
A tactic that seems to get the message across is to return the items. “”
That is a very civilized and effective response.
Ditto. I have been stopped at the local Wal-Mart before and checked,and it’s a two-second process.Not a big deal. I don’t mind,if it cuts down on theft and helps keep prices down.
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