Skip to comments.Whoopi Goldberg Defends Vick
Posted on 09/04/2007 9:37:46 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
NEW YORK -- Whoopi Goldberg started her stint on ABC's "The View" Tuesday by coming to the defense of convicted felon Michael Vick.
Just 15 minutes into the show she brought up Vick's conviction on dogfighting charges.
"You know from his background this is not an unusual thing for where he comes from," said Goldberg.
"There are certain things that are indicative to certain parts of our country."
Co-host Joy Behar seemed shocked at Goldberg's statements.
"How about dog torture and dog murdering," Behar asked.
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She did??? I never knew that.
Actually, Whoopie is right in a way. Haven’t we all been flamed for this, for saying certain things are cultural, even if they aren’t right?
I disagree that makes it less of a wrong, but it’s very politcally incorrect to say certain bad things are part of a culture. That’s a lib cardinal sin nowadays. No wonder Behar went off on her.
The problem is, she seems to be talking a Southern culture, and I would point more to a gangsta thing.
“But as for dogfighting, its neither a sport nor competition, its plain and simple brutallity.”
So what is boxing?
In one sense, I see where Whoopi is coming from, she sees the liberalism of the Democrat Party as some kind of plantation for black folk which it is. And she would like to escape that plantation, but I question whether an establishment MSM entity like the View will offer asylum to someone off the liberal plantation by defending Vick, any more than it could continue to offer asylum to Rosie who left the plantation, by publicly voicing the latent hatred of Christians that is very much a part of liberalism, but to stay on the plantation, it is understood that it must go publicly undeclared.
Whatâs the surprise? Black people defended OJ. A black jury let him off, and blacks across the country cheered when he got away with double murders. To far too many blacks, race transcends guilt.
LOL... she's a whiz when it comes to demographics
Shhhh, you don't want them to learn about our wife-fighting matches....
Sorry, absolutely no comparison. People who box are fully cognizant of the risks they are undertaking.
The dogs never asked to be a part of any fight.
“Another leftist fool apologizing for a criminal.”
“”You know from his background this is not an unusual thing for where he comes from,” said Goldberg.
“There are certain things that are indicative to certain parts of our country.”’
You know, while I am no Lefty and certainly no defender of Whoopie, I did not read her comment (above) as an apology. It seemed to me that she was merely making a statement or expressing her opinion, that’s all.
I am NOT a supporter or an apologist for Vick or Whoopie. But, dog fighting is not as rare an event as many urban and suburban Americans may think. While not common, it is not unheard of or extremely rare in certain rural southern and southwestern communities, among certain whites, blacks, and hispanics. Before unloading on me, please re-read my opening statement; I am NOT condoning dog fighting, just making an observation about the fact of dog fighting, that’s all. Btw, don’t be surprised with what the NFL turns up with their own internal investigation. I have heard some comments on tv that suggests there may be several more players on several different teams who may have participated in this sort of thing. Stay tuned....
If a white football player confessed to doing the same exact thing thing Vick did I wonder of Whoopi would make the same statement.
Yet flying the Rebel flag in the south is racist. Go figure.
“You know from his background this is not an unusual thing for where he comes from,” said Goldberg.
“There are certain things that are indicative to certain parts of our country.”
Doesn’t excuse his behavior or explain it. As far as I know, no one held a gun to his head and forced him into the dogfighting business. He was presumaby an educated guy...he should have known better.
Just wanted to give a big thanks to the whole forum and those on this thread in particular, for not posting a pic of Whoopie(!).
Thank you so much everyone!
A competition. Mind you, this is just my opinion on the differences between sports and competetions. They are all athletic endeavors that require great skill to perform at high levels. My point, if you failed to see it, was about dogfighting not being a sport.
Two people making a choice to participate.
I wonder if they’re paying her in Flooz...
"There are certain things that are indicative to certain parts of our country."
...Argghh! Messed that up. Move along...nothing to see here.
The previous View crew of useful idiots were all white. Now that there is a racial mix expect a lot more race card playing by Goldberg. I can hardly wait until they have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton as guests on the show. Even I will watch that one, if for no other reason than to marvel at the sheer liberal buffonery that will no doubt ensue.
>Like lynchings, Ms. Goldberg?<
Ouch. Actually, my thought was, “like incest, Whoopi?”.
I wonder if old Whoop would come to Vick’s defense if he’d plead guilty to beating a woman. That’s “indicative” of the culture also.
Not in my memory, and I'm pretty old.
A face only a whiteman in blackface could love.
You may remember her from her role in “Predator”.
She was once a very good comic.
Not in my memory, and I’m pretty old.
Perhaps your memory is fading as you grow older?
Her original ‘one woman show’...which was broadcast on HBO back in the early 1980’s ‘made her career’.
It was very funny, and pointed.
I find the woman’s political point of view ridiculous, and her defense of the indefensible (as in this specific case with Vick) despicable.
Doesn’t change the fact that once upon a time she was very good as a stand up comedian.
Perhaps “throwing a cocktail frank down a mineshaft” would be more accurate.
I can say from rural North Carolina, everyone I know is disgusted by this. “Well they are just a bunch of rednecks, what do you expect” is a lame response, usually one given by blue staters.
“The dogs never asked to be a part of any fight.”
One could make an argument that these dogs (and roosters for that matter) were breed to be fighters and willingly consent to do so when given the opportunity.
Wonder why even a lib liked Danson would throw the hotdog down that “hall” more than once???
Surely he’s lying, that ugly girl must have something going for her not normally observable to the masses.
Exactly. If you have a problem dog you do what has to be done by putting it down as quickly and painlessly as possible. To do otherwise indicates a sick, sadistic and twisted mentality.
Thats simply not true, I am sure Whoopi sides with those who agree with “hunting of gun ownership” they hunt gun owners all the timne where she is from
You and I have a vastly different idea of "funny" then. I vaguely remember seeing her stand up routine and thinking "what dreck"
A competitive martial art, like kickboxing or wrestling. Wrestlers just happen to be smarter....
Whoopi is on the show already? So Democrat party officials can get out there calculators and figure out how much more free advertising they are getting from ABC and the other networks. The Dems probably save countless billions thanks to their “entertainment” media flunkies.
Doesnt change the fact that once upon a time she was very good as a stand up comedian.
You and I have a vastly different idea of “funny” then. I vaguely remember seeing her stand up routine and thinking “what dreck”
Maybe, no way to know for sure.
What we do know is your memory is lacking on this topic.
Mine isn’t, I still have all the HBO series on comedians from that era on tape somewhere.
...”even in a sport as cruel as dogfighting, Vicks behavior was beyond the norms within the sport.”...
Sport???? Are you kidding or not? Norms??? Truly we are beyond “norms” here, are we not? Your use of the term “sport” with dogfighting suggests to me that you condone it.
Boxing is a martial art form involving human opponents pitted against each other's boxing skill.
lets qualify thats shes from the city bubba - out here on the western side of the state there are plenty of dairy cow, apple orchards and wineries....heck - we even shoot deer when were not shootin each other because of our "culture"
fyi - we honeymooned in Arkansas in 86 at Petit Jean ...touring the caverns at Blanchard Springs....my gumbo is better
I guess we'll find out if anyone besides Nike has a spine.
But what does that mean?!
Seriously - what does it mean?
You take a very high minded and fairly modern view of sport. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, sport was not something associated with gentleman. A sporting man was a man, who drank, gambled, and associated with prostitutes. And when he gambled chances are it was on blood sports such as dogfighting and cockfighting. Sports has taken on virtutes that I am not sure it deserves, just as journalism has taken on virtues that it certainly does not deserve. The celebrity that surrounds sports and journalism today may elevate those pursuits in the minds of some. Blood sport may not be a pure a sport, but it is sport, and sport in general cannot deny its unpleasant ancestry.
I do not condone history, I simply acknowlege it. Read post 95.
Forget the cultural aspect of dogfighting, which Whoops uses solely as a race card.
Take a dog and string it up in a tree. Hose it down with water and then electrocute it. That is what Michael Vick did to at least one of those dogs.
Goldberg is a moron.
I agree with you. The para below is from “A message from Jack Dempsey” in the instruction sheet from the Jack Dempsey EVERLAST boxing gloves I got about 45 years ago...
“Boxing is fun!...Box with your friends. Box with your Dad...Be a better sportsmen and you’ll be a better American.”
Yeah but duz youse guyz out in da west paht a da state talks like dis? Duz youse guyz call yaselfs Noo Yawkiz? I don’t tink so. Fahgeddaboudet.