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Buenas Noches, America
Human Events ^ | September 6, 2007 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 09/06/2007 12:22:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee

"Mexico does not end at its borders. ... Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico." That astonishing claim, by Mexican President Felipe Calderon, in his state of the nation address at the National Palace Sunday, brought his audience wildly cheering to its feet. Were the United States a serious nation, Calderon's claim that Mexico extends into the United States would have produced an instant demand from the U.S. ambassador for clarification. Failing to receive it, he would have packed his bags, and the United States would be on the verge of severing diplomatic relations.

In an earlier time, U.S. troops would be rolling to the border.

For this is not the first time an arrogant Mexican ruler has made a claim to extra-territorial rights inside the United States and, indeed, to U.S. territory. Mexico's presidents have gotten into a habit of suborning treason against the United States.

In 1995, President Ernesto Zedillo told a Dallas audience of U.S. citizens of Mexican descent, "You are Mexicans, Mexicans who live north of the border." I.e., you owe loyalty to Mexico, not Uncle Sam.

In 1997, Zedillo brought a Chicago gathering of La Raza to its feet by exclaiming, "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders."

In 1998, Mexico changed its constitution to restore citizenship to Mexican-Americans who have taken an oath of allegiance to the United States and renounced loyalty to any other country.

Purpose: loosen their ties of loyalty to the United States, re-knit their ties of loyalty to Mexico, and persuade Mexican-Americans to vote Mexico's interests in the U.S.A. Put Mexico first, even if you have taken an oath of allegiance to the United States. In June 2004, President Vicente Fox took the Zedillo road to the Mexican-American community in Chicago. There, he, too, declared: "We are Mexicans that live in our territories, and we are Mexicans that live in other territories. In reality, there are 120 million that live together and are working together to construct a nation."

President Fox was saying that the construction of his nation is taking place -- inside our nation. Is that not sedition?

In 2005, the head of the Institute of Mexicans Abroad, Carlos Gutierrez, asserted, "The Mexican nation goes beyond the borders that contain Mexico."

What these Mexicans politicians are saying is that Mexico extends into the United States, and the first loyalty of all men and women of Mexican ancestry is, no matter where they live, to Mexico.

Mexico's rulers believe in a nation of history, blood and soil that pre-existed, and supersedes, any pledge of allegiance any Mexican may make to another country, especially to the United States.

Is George W. Bush vaguely aware of any of this?

At the Quebec summit, Bush mocked the idea of a merger of a North American Union as a fantasy of conspiracy theorists. "It's quite comical actually, to realize the difference between reality and what some people on TV are talking about."

Calderon laughed it off, too. "I'd be happy with one foot in Mexicali and one in Tijuana." But in his state of the nation, Felipe is talking about one foot in Mexico and one in Los Angeles.

Is Bush oblivious to what his friend Vicente Fox laid down in Madrid in 2002 as the long-term strategy of Mexico?

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States ... an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as ... the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons. The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union."

Fox is talking about the erasure of borders.

Whether Bush is aware of this really makes no difference. For the real issue is not what the Mexican regime has in mind, but whether we can stop it, or whether we have passed a point of no return.

Today, already, there are 45 million Hispanics in the United States, perhaps half from Mexico, and 37 million immigrants.

Now, Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies projects -- using official Census Bureau figures of 1.25 million legal and illegal immigrants entering and staying in the United States every year -- a U.S. population of 468 million by 2060.

We will add as many people -- 167 million -- in the next half-century as the entire population of the United States when JFK was elected.

Some 105 million of these folks will be immigrants and their children. That 105 million is equal to the entire population of Mexico, whence most of these folks will be coming. No wonder Mexican presidents are coming out of the closet about what is up. They know the gringos can't stop it, for they have the American establishment on their side.

Buenas noches, America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; mexico
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To: Travis McGee

These type threads are simply designed to piss off people like me.

Mommy, make them stop!


41 posted on 09/06/2007 2:15:57 PM PDT by Radix (Nothing else to do but raise eyebrows and wreak havoc on FR.com)
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To: sheana

Reference please!


42 posted on 09/06/2007 2:16:13 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Travis McGee

Arriba, baby!!!


43 posted on 09/06/2007 2:17:25 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m asking for a reference - seriously, a link to a transcript of what he said. I’m not dissing your post, I’m asking for concrete facts to work with.


44 posted on 09/06/2007 2:17:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Altura Ct.

She’s working on one, somewhere around the 3 month point.


45 posted on 09/06/2007 2:18:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: ctdonath2

Didn’t read the article, did ya? I get caught every time I try that.


46 posted on 09/06/2007 2:19:25 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: ctdonath2

If you think that Human Events, Pat Buchanan, FOX News, etc etc etc have all been snookered, I think it would be a great scoop for you to find out from the transcripts that they were all taken.


47 posted on 09/06/2007 2:19:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Travis McGee

Relax, Travis, you’ve got me completely wrong here. I believe you/Pat/FOX/etc.

I just want the transcript, in Spanish, verbatum.


48 posted on 09/06/2007 2:21:54 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Wherever a Russian soldier plants his boot, that is sacred Russian soil forever.” - Lenin

Muslims also believe that the entire globe belongs to the Dar al-Islam and is only temporarily occupied by infidels.

Mexico is anywhere a Mexican is.

Dammit! I say America is anywhere an American is!

):^(


49 posted on 09/06/2007 2:29:58 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: ctdonath2
"Finally, I have said that Mexico does not end at the border, that wherever there is a Mexican Mexico is there; this is why the actions of the Government in favor of our migrating countrymen is guided by principles, by the defense and protection of their rights, by prevention for detecting measures that may affect our people and by the professionalism we must offer our co-nationals.

For this reason, we are already using all the resources of our consular network for the benefit of Mexicans abroad. On behalf of the Mexican Government, I again strongly protest the unilateral measures taken by the United States Congress and Government, measures that are making the persecution and humiliating treatment of undocumented Mexican workers worse.

The insensitivity shown toward those who contribute a great deal to the economy and to society in the United States has been incentive to redouble our battle to gain recognition of their enormous contribution to the economies of both nations and to defend their rights.

Therefore, the Government of Mexico will continue to firmly insist to both countries’ societies and Governments on the necessity of comprehensive immigration reform and of categorically rejecting construction of a wall on our common border."

Message to the Nation from the President of Mexico, Felipe Calderón Hinojosa, on the occasion of his first State of the Union Address. - Sunday, September 2 | Special Events/Communications National Palace, Mexico City.

/jasper

50 posted on 09/06/2007 2:35:44 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.”

“Where there is a German, there is Germany.” - Adolph Hitler. Hitler may never have said that, but this is precisely what his idea was. We Americans must be awfully bored by reality if we can so casually listen to the band playing on the Titanic, but reality has a way of waking people up.


51 posted on 09/06/2007 2:35:56 PM PDT by GOPANDCHRISTIANTOO
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To: Jack Black

Thanks. Agreed...


52 posted on 09/06/2007 2:41:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: Jasper
Thanks; that's what I was looking for - and just found: official transcript in English. Still trying to find the Spanish version.
53 posted on 09/06/2007 2:44:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: BurbankKarl
They are looking at extending the Mexican Congress into the United States, governing the illegals. I think the meeting is September 30 in Los Angeles.

Who gave them the idea they have the right to do this?

All of us from California need to call, write, fax and e-mail Schwarzenegger, Feinstein, Boxer and his or her Rep and protest this!

Villaraigosa will think he's in hog heaven over this.

54 posted on 09/06/2007 2:57:43 PM PDT by janetgreen (AMERICA FOR SALE - Call GW. Bush at 202 456-1414)
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To: TLI

I see it as wheat vs chaff, keep the good mexican workers and toss the thugs back over the border. As yet one sees a worldwide colonial backlash going on : from palestinians tunneling under israeli borders to algerians in france, turks in germany, pakistanis in england, to mexicans/south americans pouring into the US : the brown southern wave of cheap labor and fertile wombs burying the civilized white/european areas that originally conquered/colonized THEM.

We see them as an invasion threat, they see it as PAYBACK. Thus 911 was a wake up call, do we solve this WAVE with violence, or help them attain economic self reliance? How do you deal with burglars? How do you deal with poor people just trying to make it as individuals?


55 posted on 09/06/2007 3:03:57 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: BooBoo1000
Clearly photo-shopped. The President does not wear a brass biker-style skull-and-crossbones ring! LOL !!

Keith Richards, on the other had, wears a silver one:


56 posted on 09/06/2007 3:05:21 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Travis McGee
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...

There can be NO divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but ONE flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...

and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." Theodore Roosevelt 1907

57 posted on 09/06/2007 3:16:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Travis McGee; nicmarlo; yorkie; Amazon7
For the real issue is not what the Mexican regime has in mind, but whether we can stop it, or whether we have passed a point of no return.

Today, already, there are 45 million Hispanics in the United States, perhaps half from Mexico, and 37 million immigrants.

I personally think we're past the point of no return. That doesn't mean I'll give up, if for nothing else, I don't feel like having a bunch of unedukatamated criminals sneering at me.

58 posted on 09/06/2007 3:35:29 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen
Everyone on this thread who has not read Thomas Chittum's "Civil War II" should take the time to do so.

It is a difficult book. It is not a nice book. He does not mince words, or blur distinctions in order to be PC.

I can't say for sure his scenario will play out as he predicts, but I can say for sure that we're unlikley to get out of this with more crime as the biggest disruption we face.

59 posted on 09/06/2007 3:44:19 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Thank you, I’ll look for it :(


60 posted on 09/06/2007 3:47:25 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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