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Congress holds new hearing on immigration bill
InfoWorld ^ | September 06, 2007 | Ephraim Schwartz

Posted on 09/06/2007 6:03:53 PM PDT by Delacon

The STRIVE Act may still be in play and, with it, higher H-1B caps

It appears that the STRIVE (Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy) Act of 2007 isn't quite dead after all.

On Thursday, the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees Border Security, and International Law convened and on its first day took written statements from witnesses on the bill.

The comprehensive immigration bill that caused such a furor earlier this year, mainly over the issue of whether it was offering amnesty to illegal immigrants, also addressed the H-1B visa cap.

The cap, now set at 65,000, with an additional 20,000 reserved for foreign workers who have a graduate degree from a U.S. institution, would be raised to 115,000 for 2008 with a stipulation that it would go up an additional 20 percent each year that the quota was met, with a final cap of 180,000 visas issued.

At the hearing, STRIVE Act cosponsor Rep. Jeff Flake of Arizona did not specifically bring up the issue of H-1B, but he did say that the STRIVE Act "addresses the failures and problems with past worker programs."

Countering Flake's premise, Julie Kirchner, the government relations director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform said, "These provisions are a serious threat to high-tech workers in the U.S., including legal immigrants who have patiently waited their turn to take part in the American dream."

In total, there were a dozen witnesses submitting written statements, but the others did not address the issue of the H-1B visa cap.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; comprehensive; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; striveact
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To: org.whodat

Nice to see someone taking notes...you could be right.


51 posted on 09/06/2007 7:48:34 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: org.whodat; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Que funny pic :)


53 posted on 09/06/2007 7:49:36 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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Or would that be ‘cue’ (lol) spanish version I suppose.


54 posted on 09/06/2007 7:51:14 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Delacon
Tony Wasilewski told the panel that his wife of 14 years was deported this year because she was denied political asylum. She took their 6-year-old son back to Poland with her.

They don't point out that both Tony and his wife came here illegally. Poland is a free country, so why doesn't he join his loverly wife in their home country, end of problem.

55 posted on 09/06/2007 7:55:28 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: jedward

hehehehehe,,,been there done that...;0)


56 posted on 09/06/2007 7:56:37 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I just deleted 2 paragraphs...I’m practicing self-control (lol)


57 posted on 09/06/2007 7:59:55 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: org.whodat

I’m just glad that this article points out that the whole Strive Act is in play. The orginally posted article leads you to believe that it is just about H-1B visas. Its not. Its the same battle over amnesty, different day. Today.


58 posted on 09/06/2007 8:04:20 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: jedward; org.whodat
Image and video hosting by TinyPic Ooops,,,Wrong End...;0) Image and video hosting by TinyPic
59 posted on 09/06/2007 8:04:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Delacon

Thanks for the ping.


60 posted on 09/06/2007 8:05:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Delacon
Extreme BTTT

/jasper

61 posted on 09/06/2007 8:06:11 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: neverdem

Keep me in mind the next time you have a good one.


62 posted on 09/06/2007 8:11:10 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


63 posted on 09/06/2007 8:29:33 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Delacon
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., complained about the use of the word amnesty. “This term amnesty has been misused more times in this debate than any other word I’ve heard in any other debate,” Conyers said. “I’ve never before noticed so much anti-immigrant bias.” The subcommittee’s ranking Republican, Rep. Steve King of Iowa, was one of the few dissenting voices. King compared the STRIVE Act to the 1986 immigration law. He said that both are amnesty and would reward illegal behavior and disrespect of American law. “No one wants to repeat the mistake of 1986, but the STRIVE Act does that,” he said. “The STRIVE Act sells U.S. citizenship for $2,100.” King was referring to the fines illegal immigrants would pay to get on the path to citizenship.

Conyers and the other Democrats have complete contempt for the citizens. Imagine that, after it was made clear by huge waves of communications to the Senate, that this is not what the people want. Yet the Democrats in the House try to sneak in the same amnesty in another bill.

And the kicker is ... they lowered the price of amnesty!

64 posted on 09/06/2007 8:32:32 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: Delacon
I read that Bush was in Australia telling the “whole world” to get on board with globalism and free trade. I’ve never regretted voting for anyone (twice) as much as I do him. He’s destroying our Sovereignty and our country.
65 posted on 09/06/2007 8:44:01 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Delacon

“.......The session, called by subcommittee Chairwoman Rep. Zoe Lofgren,”

Well we all know what she did on HER summer vacation.....


66 posted on 09/06/2007 8:49:04 PM PDT by mo
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To: Delacon
The individual has not been convicted of a felony or three or more misdemeanors;

Unbelievable. Why in the name of God would we want to give ANYONE the right to remain in our country if they have already got three misdemeanors?? Not only are the Congress critters traitors but they're actually stupid! Most Americans will go their ENTIRE LIFE with NO misdemeanors!

67 posted on 09/06/2007 8:49:45 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: NRA2BFree

“I read that Bush was in Australia telling the “whole world” to get on board with globalism and free trade. I’ve never regretted voting for anyone (twice) as much as I do him. He’s destroying our Sovereignty and our country.”

I like to mumble a mantra that goes like this. “At least he isn’t Gore or Kerry. At least he isn’t Gore or Kerry”. It helps me sleep at night.


68 posted on 09/06/2007 8:50:30 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon

Is it still legal in America to hang traitors?


69 posted on 09/06/2007 8:54:30 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (It's time for "Tea Party II" -This time well meet at the border and toss Mexicans back over it.)
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To: Delacon
I like to mumble a mantra that goes like this. "At least he isn't Gore or Kerry. At least he isn't Gore or Kerry." It helps me sleep at night.

Actually, it really makes me feel much, much worse knowing a man who professed to be a Conservative and a Christian would do us this way. I would have expected it from either one of those two, but for Pete's sake, NOT from one of our own. We've just got to get someone in office who respects our Constitution and the American people! Of course, if they pass amnesty, the GOP is dead in the water. There will be NOTHING but Democrats in office until the Mexicans have taken it over.

70 posted on 09/06/2007 9:14:55 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (It's time for "Tea Party II" -This time well meet at the border and toss Mexicans back over it.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Is it still legal in America to hang traitors?

 

Only if you hang enough of them. 

71 posted on 09/06/2007 9:19:57 PM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; jedward
Rail-car # 2 in the ‘Train’. #1 was the Truckers Plan.

bumping that. Thanks for the ping. Long day today...and again tomorrow. Keep the lights on for me. : )

72 posted on 09/06/2007 9:30:26 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Politicalmom
It's BAAAA-AACK!!

just like the Night of the Living Dead

73 posted on 09/06/2007 9:31:25 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Niters,,,Sweet Dreams,,,No Bugs...;0)


74 posted on 09/06/2007 9:33:19 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

lol! No bugs!! I had creepy dreams last night, lol....I can’t remember what it was, but it was weird. I think it’s your fault, hehehe.


75 posted on 09/06/2007 9:34:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: piytar
Frankly, I’m all for more H1B’s for immigrants educated here. They are usually very Americanized, and all we are doing by forcing them to go home is exporting US trained expertise and knowledge — one of any nation’s most valuable resources. At the same time, we are facing a very real shortage of engineers and the like. It makes no sense.

While I understand this side of the coin, I also see that importintg more technical people that will work for less takes jobs away from and depresses wages for Americans.

On the one hand, we are graduating less and less engineers and scientists every year. ie, in the last decade the number of graduates from CA public universities increased by 11% while the number of graduates from those same schools with engineering, math, and physical science degrees decreased by 8%. I see firsthand how our high schools are not preparing our kids to take the harder classes. And companies need knowledgable workers else our economy is doomed.

On the other hand, a power plant here in Bakersfield hires 2 engineers from Mexico on H1B's and pays them about 2/3rds of what the going rate is for engineers here. This company is obviously trying to save money, while all the other power plants in the area have Americans in those positions and are paying the prevailing wage. They have no problem finding the engineers to hire - because they pay adequately.

Although companies have to submit evidence that they can't find a citizen to do the job and that they are paying their foreign workers a prevailing wage - it doesn't always happen. To the detriment of American workers.
76 posted on 09/06/2007 9:46:22 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Delacon
Its the same battle over amnesty, different day. Today.

Do we have to go through this crap every 6 months? They're trying to shove amnesty down our throats and I hope there will be hell to pay for everyone of those traitors in Congress.
77 posted on 09/06/2007 9:48:50 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Delacon
Visa Program for Qualified Undocumented Workers: Creates a new visa program (conditional nonimmigrant status) for undocumented immigrants and their spouses and children in the U.S., which is valid for six years. Provides conditional nonimmigrant visa applicants with work and travel authorization and protection from removal. Provides certain immigrants in removal proceedings, facing removal, or ordered to depart voluntarily with an opportunity to apply for conditional nonimmigrant status. Bars related to undocumented status will be waived (security and criminal bars cannot be waived);

Let me Translate:

AMNESTY

78 posted on 09/06/2007 10:08:24 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Delacon

Material from OC Register should be excerpted and linked. The article has to be removed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts


79 posted on 09/06/2007 11:05:21 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Delacon

I think in a global economy it is rational to bring tech workers here if possible. If you tell a company like Oracle you can not import the workers, then Oracle will be forced to open up a development center in India or Ukraine or wherever the skill is.

Its easy for some who work in effective monopolies to say just hire americans and raise the price of the product. But in a global marketplace the competitor can go to where the most cost effective labor is itself, and the price below you.


80 posted on 09/06/2007 11:10:42 PM PDT by ran20
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To: Millee
Silly citizen. Dontcha know our mighty rulers knows what’s best for us.

Well, now that I think of it...they are smarter & more caring than us.

81 posted on 09/07/2007 4:47:05 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Admin Moderator

Sorry.


82 posted on 09/07/2007 5:13:40 AM PDT by Delacon
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To: Puppage

Well, it’s time to mobilize and actually do something again. Time to start e-mailing, faxing, phoning, writing, etc. to stop this bill upfront. Contact the Pubs to prop up their spines once again. If we sit here and whine on-line, nothing gets done. Time to get out the pitchforks again and shoot this down bigtime.


83 posted on 09/07/2007 5:30:14 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: Delacon

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty - but they never thought it would refer to our elected Congressmen, more properly termed the Harlots of Washington.


84 posted on 09/07/2007 5:48:46 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: goldfinch

I don’t either, but I don’t trust the Harlots of Washington in the House of Lords anymore on this subject.


85 posted on 09/07/2007 5:50:14 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Delacon

We should not allow immigrants from enemy nations or those without a sponsor to assure they will not be burdens on the taxpayers. Why should we have to work hard in order to support criminals and other riffraff.


86 posted on 09/07/2007 7:20:13 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: org.whodat
Putting lipstick on the pig!

Lindsey Graham doesn't need any more lipstick!


87 posted on 09/07/2007 7:23:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: piytar

I say we reduce family immigration by 50%, all illegal immigration, and replace that with doctors, scientists, pilots, engineers, etc....

Automation will decrease labor needs, and put more weight on individuals to learn specialized skills or management. I’m not sure what this legislation dictates, exactly...and I’m not really in favor of just increasing the cap to give Bill Gates more labor.


88 posted on 09/07/2007 12:53:55 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


89 posted on 09/07/2007 3:33:50 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Part of the RIGHT-Wing Machine.)
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To: Delacon

Bumping to the top. Here we go again.


90 posted on 09/07/2007 5:28:41 PM PDT by Sal (My "good" Senator Kyl exposed himself as a Grand Betrayer, corrupt to the core!)
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