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Senator Moves to Block Mexican Trucks(Democrat Sen. Byron Dorgan ND)
worldnetdaily.com ^ | September 10, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/10/2007 11:48:46 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: NapkinUser
Some foreign panel ordered it, huh?

Easily revoked with NAFTA itself.

Is Bush not the president?

It does make one wonder.

Is America not a sovereign nation?

Apparently not according to current occupant.

Who gives a damn what this panel rules?

Not honest Americans. So who does that leave...

61 posted on 09/10/2007 4:49:37 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: kellynla
I can't help but laugh...the teamsters president is stomping his feet...saying now drugs will be trucked in...yes those dirty rats must try and protect the unions.

I hope all realize this is to protect the UNIONS...nothing more.

62 posted on 09/10/2007 4:52:48 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

“I hope all realize this is to protect the UNIONS...nothing more?”

Bravo Sierra

I am not a union member and the reason I don’t want Mexican trucks running throughout America is because they are DANGEROUS. We don’t need vehicles running on our freeways, highways, roads and streets that are not regulated by the DOT driven by morons who CANNOT READ ENGLISH. The authorities can’t handle the traffic at the Mexican border checkpoints, freeways, highways, streets and roads now; we don’t need more problems. The biggest exports coming from Mexico are illegal aliens and illegal drugs. Both of which we already have too much of.

Now if you can’t comprehend then I suggest you get one of the kids from your local grade school to explain it to you.


64 posted on 09/10/2007 5:24:59 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Alberta's Child; All

They should at least have inspection at the border to eliminate smuggling of illegals, and perhaps a drug sniffing dog or two on site.


65 posted on 09/10/2007 5:27:46 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: kellynla
Well, well--

The smart money in the Dem Senate now will chip away a lot of Joe Sixpacks from the GOP with this issue. Hillary could even triangulate.

OK, Fred--here's your op to play both Standup and Maverick. Please. Break publicly away from the Bush admin--

66 posted on 09/10/2007 5:31:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: shield

Politics makes for strange bedfellows. The union rank and file ought to be dead set against cheap imported labor. Not only that, but black activists ought to be against it, too.


67 posted on 09/10/2007 5:33:22 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: ConservativeofColor

“Allowing Mexican trucks on American highways costs American jobs; that is a fact. And I don’t give a rat’s ass about the teamsters, I’m more concerned with the affect it will have on Independents.”

B T T T


68 posted on 09/10/2007 5:37:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: wideawake
Somehow. I feel I have been down this path before.

Consider that America is the only land where the individual was sovereign, where the individual was secure in his person and his property, and where the individual was responsible for regulating his own behavior.

Mexicans have none of the above.

Therefore, do not assume that the Mexican will do to you as you would do to him. He’s Mexican. You, I assume, are American.

The real failure in your logic is found in your phrase “licensed Mexican trucker doing business legally in America.”

Analyzing that phrase, I find the following faulty assumptions:
1. The Mexican ‘license’ in no way compares to American licenses, so forget “licensed”.
2. Often, the Mex-driver has limited or no real command of English. That will make for lots of excitement when Senor decides to cut across several lanes to make an exit ramp because he can’t read the signs. Comprende?
3. “Licensed” Mexican truck are simply never held to American standards. No real inspection system means you may have something on your rear bumper on that mountain road descent. Look sharp - the life you save may be your own.
4. The lack of inspection, Turd World mentality and maintenance make for more accidents and deaths when Mr. Mex loses a steer tire at speed. Got insurance?

Life insurance, as you probably won’t need medical insurance.

As for the legality of this latest “Border Bandito” behavior of El Presidente Jorge Boosh, that remains to be seen.

There is the issue of whether an executive order can overcome safety laws enacted by Congress. We will see.

Mexicanness is still legal. Acting out the criminal behavior patterns so often seen amongst Mexicans is not legal.

Come to think of it, in most cases, their very presence here is a crime. Again, comprende?

69 posted on 09/10/2007 9:24:00 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Sybeck1

My old, and very ‘ex’ friends in the enviro movement are grinning about the Mexican truck driver scam.

Why? Because they know that truckers tend to be land owners, and suburban or rural land owners at that.

Drive the trucker out of business and his land will go on the market. Then the goobers in gooberment agencies will buy it at a fire sale price.

It is a socialists dream.

An American nightmare may be that at some future day, many trucks carrying armed troops may come over with no chance of inspection.

Remember the 100,000 AK-47’s Chavez bought? Think about a truck load of Semtex. Now think about many trucks of Semtex.

Not to mention many other nasty things than might be delivered in Mexican trucks.

Gringo De Mexico, who sits in the White House, needs to hear about this just as he did about amnesty.


70 posted on 09/10/2007 9:31:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: wideawake

>>We do not require Brazil to transfer all their goods from a Brazilian ship to a US ship a few miles offshore before it can be brought into port.<<

Did you notice that Brazilian ships don’t drive on US highways?

The DOT is really importing drivers with unknown safety and unknown criminal records. Bush thinks that is a great idea, and I suppose you do as well.


71 posted on 09/11/2007 6:50:24 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Did you notice that Brazilian ships don’t drive on US highways?

But they do enter US ports and US waterways, where plenty of Americans sail their own craft or take ferries.

The DOT is really importing drivers with unknown safety and unknown criminal records.

The drivers' identities, driving records and background checks are required.

Again, you do not seem to be concerned that a Chinese or Brazilian freighter can theoretically enter New York harbor and potentially ram commuter ferries and kill thousands of commuters.

72 posted on 09/11/2007 7:03:30 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
>>The drivers' identities, driving records and background checks are required.<<

Driving records? From Mexico? Exactly what kind of system does Mexico have to keep track of driving and criminal records?



>>Again, you do not seem to be concerned that a Chinese or Brazilian freighter can theoretically enter New York harbor and potentially ram commuter ferries and kill thousands of commuters.<<

The fact that our government is failing us WRT port security is not an excuse to make us less secure elsewhere.
73 posted on 09/11/2007 7:37:01 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Driving records? From Mexico? Exactly what kind of system does Mexico have to keep track of driving and criminal records?

Do you really believe that the Mexican police and the Mexican transportation ministry do not keep records of any kind? That drivers in Mexico never get ticketed? Than there is no such thing as a moving violation in Mexico? That you do not need to take an exam to obtain a commercial drivers' license?

Rather than posting tired graphics, do a little homework.

The fact that our government is failing us WRT port security is not an excuse to make us less secure elsewhere.

My point is that this is not a failure - foreign pilots have been operating freighters in US harbors since there was a US. Anti-trade paranoia is ridiculous.

74 posted on 09/11/2007 7:45:38 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
>>Rather than posting tired graphics, do a little homework.<<

You obviously know very little about Mexico. If you did, you would know that the cops collect fines on the spot and usually don't report violations. And if they did, why would they care whether the information went into a national database. If Mexico keeps records, why did the Inspector general's report say that driver records were not available? DOT is hell-bent on ramming this program through with no way to verify driver records.

But an inspector general's report issued last week said U.S. officials checking Mexican trucks are only examining information made available to them by the carrier, he said.

Information concerning vehicle inspections, accident reports, insurance records and driver violations were not available and databases with such information are still in development, the report said.


Even "open borders" Sen., Specter is opposed
75 posted on 09/11/2007 8:09:40 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: ConservativeofColor
“Allowing Mexican trucks on American highways costs American jobs; that is a fact. And I don’t give a rat’s ass about the teamsters, I’m more concerned with the affect it will have on Independents.”

BTTT!

There are over 150,000 Independent-Owner Operators already in their larger organization, and at least as many who have no organizational affiliation. And who knows how many American employees as subcontractors they might be running?

These guys, with all their capital investment (read "Small Businesses") will be annhilated from their livelihood on the altar of redistribution of wealth (middle class wealth) to the Mexicans and Multinational elite.

Nobody ever challenges this Administration on the distributional impacts they clearly have predetermined should happen for whatever altruistic or nefarious reasons. It is way past time that he was busted on this.

76 posted on 09/11/2007 10:05:47 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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Driving records? From Mexico? Exactly what kind of system does Mexico have to keep track of driving and criminal records?

"“... there are no certified alcohol/drug testing facilities in the entire country of Mexico! There is no national criminal database in Mexico, to allow checking on the criminal histories of these drivers. "

link

77 posted on 09/11/2007 11:28:04 AM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: wideawake; joanie-f
The homework that should be reviewed is the Inspector General's report...which clearly indicates that the White House statements that "every truck will be inspected, every time..." are pure lies.

Just like his excuses for not really trying to build the Fece.

Lies.

Do lies from the White House mean anything to you?

These are supposed to be the "adults." What do LIES imply about their maturity? Their respect for law and their oathe of office, and the People's House? The People themselves?

For me, their cavalier mishandling of truth, the utter falsity of their assurances..ordered from the White House...all to facilitate steam-rolling this into being...for me this calls into question the very claim of Christianity by this purportedly pious White House denizen.

We are advised to "try every spirit." When I read W's speeches, I rankle at the lies and get a feeling of how profoundly unclean are his sentiments and character. By contrast, when I read Reagan, TR, or Lincoln...it is like being washed clean. They knew how to tell the truth and show moral clarity.

The profoundly discrediting character of the Administration's lies on this tend to cast everything in a grim hue...as Mark Twain wrote:

"The thirteenth stroke of a clock is not only false of itself...it casts exceedingly grave doubts upon the veracity of the preceding twelve..."

78 posted on 09/11/2007 12:07:55 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

That should be FENCE, btw...obviously the White House and John McCain regards it as the other...


79 posted on 09/11/2007 12:13:31 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross
When I read W's speeches, I rankle at the lies and get a feeling of how profoundly unclean are his sentiments and character.

You need to get a grip. You are choking on your own overblown and pretentious bile.

80 posted on 09/11/2007 12:32:12 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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