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Senate votes to ban Mexican trucks
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | Sep. 11, 2007 | Suzanne Gamboa

Posted on 09/11/2007 5:09:04 PM PDT by ruination

WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Tuesday to ban Mexican trucks from U.S. roadways, rekindling a more than decade-old trade dispute with Mexico.

By a 74-24 vote, the Senate approved a proposal by Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., prohibiting the Transportation Department from spending money on a North American Free Trade Agreement pilot program giving Mexican trucks access to U.S. highways.

The proposal is part of a $106 billion transportation and housing spending bill that the Senate hopes to vote on later this week. The House approved a similar provision to Dorgan's in July as part of its version of the transportation spending bill.

Supporters of Dorgan's amendment argued the trucks are not yet proven safe. Opponents said the U.S. is applying tougher standards to Mexican trucks than to Canadian trucks and failing to live up to its NAFTA obligations.

Until last week, Mexican trucks were restricted to driving within a commercial border zone that stretched about 20 miles from the U.S.-Mexican boundary, 75 miles in Arizona. One truck has traveled deep into the U.S. interior as part of the pilot program.

Blocking the trucks would help Democrats curry favor with organized labor, an important ally for the 2008 presidential elections.

"Why the urgency? Why not stand up for the (truck) standards that we've created and developed in this country?" Dorgan asked.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan's amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.

"I would never allow an unsafe truck on our highways, particularly Texas highways," he said.

Under NAFTA, Mexico can seek retaliation against the U.S. for failing to adhere to the treaty's requirements, including retaining tariffs on goods that the treaty eliminates, said Sidney Weintraub, a professor emeritus at the University of Texas LBJ School of Public Affairs in Austin.

The trucking program allows up to 100 Mexican carriers to send their trucks on U.S. roadways for delivery and pickup of cargo. None can carry hazardous material or haul cargo between U.S. points.

So far, the Department of Transportation has granted a single Mexican carrier, Transportes Olympic, access to U.S. roads after a more than decade-long dispute over the NAFTA provision opening up the roadways.

One of the carrier's trucks crossed the border in Laredo, Texas last week and delivered its cargo in North Carolina on Monday and was expected to return to Mexico late this week after a stop in Decatur, Ala.

The transportation bill is S. 1789.


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1 posted on 09/11/2007 5:09:13 PM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination

Free traitors deeply saddened.


2 posted on 09/11/2007 5:09:50 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: ruination

omg the Senate found its backbone!!


3 posted on 09/11/2007 5:11:12 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: NapkinUser

Teamster thugs elated.


4 posted on 09/11/2007 5:13:51 PM PDT by mdefranc
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To: Cinnamon
omg the Senate found its backbone!!

Sounds to me like they found their pollsters (for which I am grateful).

5 posted on 09/11/2007 5:15:11 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: ruination
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan's amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.

Hopefully, the voters of Texas will remember this and discriminate against Cornyn at his next primary election.
6 posted on 09/11/2007 5:15:13 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: ruination

I am under the impression that this is a treaty requirement.


8 posted on 09/11/2007 5:16:37 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: ruination
Blocking the trucks would help Democrats curry favor with organized labor, an important ally for the 2008 presidential elections.

Yep.

9 posted on 09/11/2007 5:17:13 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: ruination
By a 74-24 vote, the Senate approved a proposal by Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., prohibiting the Transportation Department from spending money on a North American Free Trade Agreement pilot program giving Mexican trucks access to U.S. highways.

Thank God. Yesterday we were being told how this was just a useless do-nothing act. Hmmmmmm......
10 posted on 09/11/2007 5:17:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Cinnamon
omg the Senate found its backbone!!

They found in the pressure from constituents.
11 posted on 09/11/2007 5:17:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: mdefranc

I loathe unions, but if those teamsters are U.S. Citizens and work in the United States, they sure as hell get my vote to work over foreign nationals.


12 posted on 09/11/2007 5:18:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: George W. Bush

‘Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan’s amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.’

yeah. I hope Texas voters discriminate him, and vote someone with country-first views in his place.


13 posted on 09/11/2007 5:18:22 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: bcsco

Ping


14 posted on 09/11/2007 5:18:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: bcsco

Ping


15 posted on 09/11/2007 5:19:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: ruination
may amount to discrimination against Mexico

In two words: who cares? Does Mexico have civil rights under the Constitution?

16 posted on 09/11/2007 5:19:14 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: bcsco

Ping


17 posted on 09/11/2007 5:19:22 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: ruination
None can carry hazardous material or haul cargo between U.S. points.

Except illegal aliens, terrorists and their WMD's.
18 posted on 09/11/2007 5:19:22 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: ruination
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan's amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.

That statement is apparently in error.


Corrected version:

Sen. John Cornyn, R-TexasMexico, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan's amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.
20 posted on 09/11/2007 5:20:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

my bad my bad.

’ Sen. John Cornyn, R-Mexico, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan’s amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.’

corrected :)


21 posted on 09/11/2007 5:21:10 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: mdefranc
Teamster thugs elated.

Yeah, but they're OUR Teamster thugs.

22 posted on 09/11/2007 5:21:47 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: greyfoxx39

WOW....first time I ever saw a TRIPLE PING! Sorry everyone.
bsco, I’m afraid to put your name into the To: line


23 posted on 09/11/2007 5:21:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: ruination

Junior, Earl and Earl Jr. are proud!


24 posted on 09/11/2007 5:22:20 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: DoughtyOne
if those teamsters are U.S. Citizens and work in the United States, they sure as hell get my vote to work over foreign nationals.

Thank you. I keep wondering where people think the money to pay the $9 trillion deficit ($9,010,438,701,838.81) is going to come from if all Americans are working for $5/hr? (of course it will never be paid anyways, imho).

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
25 posted on 09/11/2007 5:23:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: ruination

I’d like to point out that the parenthetical commentary wasn’t entered by me.


26 posted on 09/11/2007 5:23:29 PM PDT by ruination
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To: savedbygrace

I agree. They are our Unions, exercising their rights as free Americans.


27 posted on 09/11/2007 5:23:33 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: jedward

LOL.


28 posted on 09/11/2007 5:23:53 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: ruination

bttt


29 posted on 09/11/2007 5:24:27 PM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: DoughtyOne

Why oppose competition?

Why assume someone born here is of necessity superior to someone not so fortunate as to their birthplace?


30 posted on 09/11/2007 5:24:35 PM PDT by mdefranc
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To: Bahbah

;)


31 posted on 09/11/2007 5:25:25 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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32 posted on 09/11/2007 5:25:39 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: George W. Bush; Cinnamon

John Cornyn is one of the good guys. You may disagree with him on this point, but it would be a serious loss were he to leave office.


33 posted on 09/11/2007 5:25:46 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: NapkinUser; 1rudeboy; Mase; expat_panama
The Senate voted Tuesday to ban Mexican trucks from U.S. roadways

If we can't let Mexican trucks into the country, what idiot believes that we're just going to merge with Mexico (and Canada)? Oh, right, Corsi. LOL!

34 posted on 09/11/2007 5:25:58 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: mdefranc

it’s called putting your country first. Keeping in mind who wields the power. The People.


35 posted on 09/11/2007 5:26:55 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: NapkinUser

Bravo Teamsters! Bravo Democrats!


36 posted on 09/11/2007 5:27:52 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: ruination; Loud Mime

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37 posted on 09/11/2007 5:28:21 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: TomGuy
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who drafted a Republican alternative to Dorgan's amendment, said the attempt to block the trucks appeared to be about limiting competition and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.

definition of discriminate: to recognize or perceive the difference

It is about time we perceived the difference between Mexico and the United States.

38 posted on 09/11/2007 5:28:23 PM PDT by nitzy (globalism and limited government cannot co-exist)
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To: ruination

Are you saying that is not the title you entered? Someone changed it?


39 posted on 09/11/2007 5:28:30 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: DoughtyOne
BTW, can we get a weather status check from hell?

Apparently it's snowing.

40 posted on 09/11/2007 5:29:29 PM PDT by Regulator (Love That Skiing Weather)
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To: ruination

Goody


41 posted on 09/11/2007 5:30:14 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: ruination

A rare moment of common sense erupts in the Senate!


42 posted on 09/11/2007 5:32:30 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: mdefranc

Exactly...it’s the teamster’s...nothing more than support for the UNIONS.....


43 posted on 09/11/2007 5:33:29 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: jedward
Are you saying that is not the title you entered? Someone changed it?

I don't know who changed it, but the "curry favor with organized labor" part was not there originally. The moderators here recently have been editorializing in the threads and titles (see the more recent Ron Paul threads), so maybe it's the same thing here? Just a guess. I don't really know.

44 posted on 09/11/2007 5:33:57 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: ruination

I will have to Lavoris my mouth after this, but, anyway, here goes....

Thank GOODNESS for DEMOCRATS (sometimes)!

45 posted on 09/11/2007 5:34:52 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: ruination

According to what I have read this free flow of truck traffic between Canada/USA/Mexico is part of a legal treaty between the countries - and therefore the law.

Therefore it had to have been agreed to by the Senate and signed by the President.

When did all this happen?? and who were the big players??


46 posted on 09/11/2007 5:35:18 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: F15Eagle

I know what you mean. We do our best to replace our workers with workers outside the nation, they watch as another segment of workers replaces our own and sends a good chunk of that money out of the nation. Just what do some people think supports our local econimies if not U.S. workers, who spend their earning HERE?

Thanks.


47 posted on 09/11/2007 5:35:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: ruination

This a very good thing.
The “lets all make one happy American continent” people won’t like it.
But it’s a good day for the sovereignty of the United States.


48 posted on 09/11/2007 5:35:21 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Cinnamon
This must have been the vote they interrupted the grilling of Petraeus for!
49 posted on 09/11/2007 5:36:23 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: George W. Bush
["...and may amount to discrimination against Mexico."]

Too bad.

50 posted on 09/11/2007 5:36:27 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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