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Team Clinton can't explain ignoring warnings on Hsu
New York Daily News ^ | September 12, 2007 | JAMES GORDON MEEK and MICHAEL McAULIFF

Posted on 09/12/2007 4:20:55 AM PDT by libstripper

WASHINGTON - Hillary Clinton's campaign couldn't explain yesterday why it blew off warnings about felon-turned-fund-raiser Norman Hsu - and the Daily News learned FBI agents are collecting e-mail evidence in the widening scandal.

Clinton was forced Monday to give back a whopping $850,000 raised by convicted scam artist Hsu after learning his investment ventures were being probed by the FBI as a potential Ponzi scheme.

She earlier gave to charity $23,000 Hsu donated himself after reports revealed he fled sentencing for a $1 million scam in California in 1992.

Yesterday, the campaign insisted it did all it should to vet Hsu after California businessman Jack Cassidy warned in June that Hsu's investment operation was fishy. Cassidy e-mailed his tips to the California Democratic Party, which forwarded them to the Clinton campaign.

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Looks like the Witch's campaign had all the info it needed from businessman Cassidy to run Hsu down and deliberately took no action. How could such a thing happen under the nose of the World's Most Ethical Woman??
1 posted on 09/12/2007 4:20:58 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Tip of the iceberg for the Evil One. Not that the crooked media will cover one iota of this.


2 posted on 09/12/2007 4:22:34 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: libstripper
How could such a thing happen under the nose of the World's Most Ethical Woman??

The checks cleared. What more did she need to know?

3 posted on 09/12/2007 4:23:36 AM PDT by gridlock (I do not support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women.)
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To: libstripper

Give ‘em time. The excuse will come.


4 posted on 09/12/2007 4:25:15 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: libstripper; doug from upland
BWA HA HA HA HA...... the witch is shrieking, "I'm melting, I'm melting"...... so they had big red flags months ago but preferred to keep milking Hsu and his "straw donors"..... ooooh, this could be very bad indeed for the witch.

"They knew [about Hsu], and they knew back in June," a source told The News. Cassidy raised a red flag after a friend came to him with a tale of being offered 64% annual returns by Hsu. "It was either predatory lending or a Ponzi scheme," the source said, adding that the FBI had interviewed Cassidy and took as evidence numerous e-mails he sent to political officials about Hsu. Camp Clinton never responded to Cassidy, but dealt with the worried California party members. According to the Los Angeles Times, Clinton's Western finance director, Samantha Wolf, e-mailed, "I can tell you with 100% certainty that Norman Hsu is NOT involved in a Ponzi scheme," adding, "He is COMPLETELY legit."
5 posted on 09/12/2007 4:28:50 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: libstripper

Sole reason for early and large return of monies?

FBI investigation.


6 posted on 09/12/2007 4:30:23 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: libstripper

She got caught this time. Wonder how many more ChiComs are hiding in Hillary’s closet.

Interestingly, Norman Hsu also bribed Sen. Ubama’s campaign and the DNC.This might turn out to be quite a scandal despite the best efforts of the MSM to squelch news.


7 posted on 09/12/2007 4:30:54 AM PDT by indcons
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To: libstripper
WASHINGTON - Hillary Clinton's campaign couldn't explain yesterday why it blew off warnings about felon-turned-fund-raiser Norman Hsu - and the Daily News learned FBI agents are collecting e-mail evidence in the widening scandal.

It is not at all surprising that warnings were ignored. IMO, that risky action can be easily explained by one word. GREED.

8 posted on 09/12/2007 4:32:28 AM PDT by olezip
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To: libstripper

He was buying indulgences (a pardon) in advance. By greasing the palms of Clinton and Obama, he felt like he had a real shot at picking the right pardon horse.


9 posted on 09/12/2007 4:33:18 AM PDT by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: Clara Lou
Give ‘em time. The excuse will come.

You mean "Bushes Fault"?

10 posted on 09/12/2007 4:33:29 AM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: libstripper

When Hilary gives up money, you know things were so bad that somebody actually had to get up the nerve to tell the witch that it was either this or jail. Hopefully, it’s both.


11 posted on 09/12/2007 4:34:06 AM PDT by Williams
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To: libstripper

I’m sure it’s just an innocent mistake, I mean, I’m sure Hsu and the other crooks behind the money don’t want anything, they just like Hilary, blah blah blah ....


12 posted on 09/12/2007 4:35:33 AM PDT by Williams
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To: libstripper

To whom did she return the money?

As Rush asked......show us the check!!

If the Paw’s get money back, we want to know the source. Was tax paid by the Paws on those funds


13 posted on 09/12/2007 4:37:21 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: Enchante
My question, Why hasn't the FBI seized the campaign funds?

I suspect the funds are laundered, and should be frozen before they are liquidated.

Every Democrat should be coughing up the funds to the FBI, now.

14 posted on 09/12/2007 4:40:52 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: libstripper
Clinton was forced Monday to give back a whopping $850,000...

Anyone here willing to take Clinton's word on this? How will we know if anything is given back?

15 posted on 09/12/2007 4:41:46 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: libstripper
Hillary Clinton's campaign couldn't explain yesterday why it blew off warnings about felon-turned-fund-raiser Norman Hsu...

Uh, try some words like: arrogance; greed; lust; etc...

16 posted on 09/12/2007 4:46:28 AM PDT by LRS
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To: libstripper
With this track record by the both of them what would happen if they both got back into the WH? Their greed for power seems to now be outweighed by their greed for money. What if some foreign interest, less interested in the US, paid them off while in the WH for some favorable return? These people can not be trusted, period. One only has to look at 1992-2000 to see that....
17 posted on 09/12/2007 4:46:53 AM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: libstripper

Modus operendi?


18 posted on 09/12/2007 4:48:23 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: PA-RIVER

That’s an EXCELLENT question, and it needs to be shouted from the rooftops! There are growing indications that Hsu’s money was coming from Ponzi-type schemes, sucking in more new “investors” to keep earlier “investors” happy while providing a stream of funds to be skimmed for campaign “donations” — the FBI should be seizing all of this money NOW.

btw, Who on earth can not be suspicious when promised annual “returns” of 60+%??? Anyone with 1/2 a brain had to know there was something fishy about Hsu..... of course maybe he started out more moderately and then became increasingly desperate in recent months, trying to keep the money flow open.

Let’s hope the FBI gets to the bottom of the real deal. I sure hope this slime splatters all over the witch Shrillery. She deserves to have a scandal that finally and completely tarnishes her false image!


19 posted on 09/12/2007 4:50:33 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: libstripper

Clinton should fire the person in charge of finances for her campaign. Anything less is a wink at the bundling crime.


20 posted on 09/12/2007 4:51:22 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: vietvet67
"...Clinton's Western finance director, Samantha Wolf, e-mailed, "I can tell you with 100% certainty that Norman Hsu is NOT involved in a Ponzi scheme....".... "because I know that the ChiComs don't need any Ponzi schemes when they have so many billions of our WalMart dollars to throw back at our politicians!" /s
21 posted on 09/12/2007 4:54:36 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Soliton

Think again, his top three recipients were Clinton, Spitzer, and Cuomo. The Junior Senator and former and current Attorneys General of NY State. Looks more like he was paying protection to the state so he would not face extradition to Cal. I would like to know what Spitzer and Cuomo have to say about not vetting their donations. Shooosh, they represent the highest law enforcement offices in the state. What is their excuse. Oh yea, their Dems and this is NY. Looks like NY is going to challenge LA and NJ for the most corrupt state in the union. Nothing says fraud like Clinton Dems.


22 posted on 09/12/2007 4:54:39 AM PDT by Jigajog
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To: libstripper
Something is happening here and the lib media is trying as hard as it can to minimize it. If the FBI turns up more stench related to the libs the DBM will have a huge decision to make. They can continue to bury or minimize this scandal (another one) and risk losing what is left of their credibility for a long, long time or they can jump in with both feet and show the country they can be trusted to be fair. This will serve them in the long run and even allow them to continue their bias, albeit in a more modest way. Buy burying this until they are forced to cover it they will sacrifice long term credibility for short term gain.
23 posted on 09/12/2007 4:55:06 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: libstripper
"Look, Hill-ah-ee take our monee! We Soooo own her boneee ass!"


24 posted on 09/12/2007 4:56:55 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: libstripper

The headline is misleading. They CAN explain, it’s just that they won’t. They expect this to just evaporate like all the other scandals.

News flash, Klinton @sswipes: The new media is a lot strong these days. It’s not going away.


25 posted on 09/12/2007 4:57:08 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: libstripper

Banner headline #1:

CLINTON KNEW!!

Banner #2:

THE MSM KNEW!!!


26 posted on 09/12/2007 4:57:26 AM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: libstripper
Hillary met Norman Hsu
On the hush, hush, and no one else knew.
She knew Norm was "funny,"
But she still took his money
And now she has 'splainin' to do.
27 posted on 09/12/2007 4:57:57 AM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War (1950-53))
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To: Leisler

This is SO wrong. Hillary does NOT have a boney @ss!


28 posted on 09/12/2007 4:58:38 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: bert; PA-RIVER; FreePaul; indcons
If the Paw’s get money back, we want to know the source. Was tax paid by the Paws on those funds

My question, Why hasn't the FBI seized the campaign funds?

Anyone here willing to take Clinton's word on this? How will we know if anything is given back?

She got caught this time. Wonder how many more ChiComs are hiding in Hillary’s closet.

So many questions. Go FBI!

29 posted on 09/12/2007 4:59:14 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: LRS

BTW, I haven’t been able to keep a certain ditty out of my head ever since this story first broke:

Pickin’ up Paw Paws, put ‘em in your coffers,
Pickin’ up Paw Paws, put ‘em in your coffers,
Pickin’ up Paw Paws, put ‘em in your coffers,
Way down yander in the Pa Paw’s shack.

Oh, where or where is sweet little Hillary?
Oh, where or where is sweet little Hillary?
Oh, where or where is sweet little Hillary?
Way down yander in the Pa Paw’s shack.


30 posted on 09/12/2007 4:59:46 AM PDT by LRS
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To: Enchante
Chinese have been ‘investing’ tens of billions into the US. Hsu got Chinese ChiCom money through ‘investment firms’ that got it from ‘Chinese Investors’. So sad, money gone, no giveee back.

Cost of doing Global business for the ChiComms. Bribes. If only the Democrats were as honest as Nigerians.

31 posted on 09/12/2007 5:00:59 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

I must of been thinking of broomsticks.


32 posted on 09/12/2007 5:02:06 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: libstripper
Hillary Clinton's campaign couldn't explain ....

Bwahahahaha...

This has been the Clinton's motto for the last 30 years --"We can't explain"

Different scandal, same old story.

33 posted on 09/12/2007 5:02:47 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: libstripper
According to the Los Angeles Times, Clinton's Western finance director, Samantha Wolf, e-mailed, "I can tell you with 100% certainty that Norman Hsu is NOT involved in a Ponzi scheme," adding, "He is COMPLETELY legit."

Wolf no longer works for the campaign. Wolfson declined to explain her departure.

********************************************************************

Has anyone filed a missing person report on this gal? Maybe her bones are lying buried somewhere out in the Mohave Desert?

34 posted on 09/12/2007 5:03:20 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Enchante
That’s an EXCELLENT question, and it needs to be shouted from the rooftops! There are growing indications that Hsu’s money was coming from Ponzi-type schemes, sucking in more new “investors” to keep earlier “investors” happy while providing a stream of funds to be skimmed for campaign “donations” — the FBI should be seizing all of this money NOW.

The fact that the Witch did nothing to shut Hsu's operation down until she was absolutely forced to says she clearly knew what he was doing, that his wealth probably came from a combination of Ponzi schemes and the Chicoms, she was benefiting massively from it, and wanted the cash flow to continue. One other important part of this story is the fact that Hsu was placed on the New College board, probably by Bernie Schwartz, one of its vice chairmen. Schwartz, a close Clinton ally who was deeply involved in the sale of vital missile technology to the Chicoms and the Clinton scandals of the 90s, probably got Hsu onto that board as part of a plan to make him respectable and, thus, more able to continue running Ponzi schemes for the benefit of Clinton and the DemonRat party.

35 posted on 09/12/2007 5:04:44 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
When will we hear from Hsu? Assumes he doesn’t mysteriously die...
36 posted on 09/12/2007 5:06:38 AM PDT by joonbug
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To: FreePaul
Anyone here willing to take Clinton's word on this?

Remember Bubba said he was "shocked" about this revelation and he could have been "knocked him over with a straw"???

37 posted on 09/12/2007 5:08:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them. (Tom DeLay 8/30/07))
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To: Lurking in Kansas
This has been the Clinton's motto for the last 30 years --"We can't explain"

No
That Motto is in 2nd place to their "Mistakes Were Made" BS
38 posted on 09/12/2007 5:11:49 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: joonbug
Any bets on how Hsu, being ‘depressed’, kills himself in custody? Hanging? Plugs stainless toilet with TP and then kneels down and drowns himself? Tosses himself off a third tier balcony? Marcy Park stroll? Hart attack?
39 posted on 09/12/2007 5:12:33 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: libstripper

It is very apparent that the Clinton’s are the pivot point for an international PONZI SCHEME. Investors are introduced with successfull initial investments. This capital & political bondage is the basis of the Clinton Cult. Ponzi’s always have a vicious end of a fool’s game. If so, Hillary will be in their cross-hairs. Follow all this money.


40 posted on 09/12/2007 5:13:23 AM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: bert
Well, I suspect the money has already been spent by the Clintons.

Their current position on returning the money is to “give it to charity”. If you believe this, you’ll also believe Bill “never has sex with that woman”.

The American public should see this money put into an escrow account immediately and like any other illegal activity formal charges need to be made and the prosecution initiated.

I’m sick and tired of politicians being above the law!!

But then, I’m still waiting for Sandy Berger to be arrested and charged with burgerly.

41 posted on 09/12/2007 5:17:40 AM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: vietvet67

Yes and hopefully there is a “deep throat” in today’s FBI that will guide an enterprising reporter to the right knowledgable sources to get the truth out to the public. What goes around comes around and the FBI is questioning Hsu and seizing his records.


42 posted on 09/12/2007 5:18:12 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: joonbug
When will we hear from Hsu? Assumes he doesn’t mysteriously die...

Good question. Is he still hospitalized in Colorado? Did we ever learn what his "ailment" was/is?

43 posted on 09/12/2007 5:22:56 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Maybe her bones are lying buried somewhere out in the Mohave Desert?

“There's a lot of holes in the desert...” -Nicky Santoro, 'Casino'


44 posted on 09/12/2007 5:23:58 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: libstripper; The Spirit Of Allegiance

The Clintonistas are in this deep. What did they know and when did they know it? Follow the money!!

How much does the FBI know now and how hard are they working the case?? (or not)

Is the FBI protecting Hsu and will they continue to protect him from a Ft. Marcy Park episode??

Why is the (now former) head of their entire western regional finance, Samantha Wolf, no longer with the campaign?? When did she depart (she was there in June, apparently), how and why, was she fired or did she simply realize she had to try to quietly disappear on her own?

Why did the Clintonistas think they could ignore obvious warning signs from months ago that all was not right in the land of Hsu? Presumably because they have gotten away with so much for so long, plus the pressure of trying to keep up with Obama’s record fundraising, they may have gotten desperate and sloppy???


45 posted on 09/12/2007 5:26:31 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Clinton was forced Monday to give back a whopping $850,000

My question: Does anyone actually follow up and make sure the money is returned?

46 posted on 09/12/2007 5:26:41 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: libstripper

Amazing, isn’t it?


47 posted on 09/12/2007 5:28:44 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Lee'sGhost
"The headline is misleading. They CAN explain, it’s just that they won’t."

Exactly. So far they are hoping to get away with stonewalling everything that is not already out there from other sources. They WON'T explain why they ignored blatant warnings about Hsu, they WON'T explain how he became connected with the campaign and who his main contact was and how they handled him, etc., they WON'T explain what happened to Samantha Wolf (former director of finance for their entire western region), they WON'T explain anything at all unless we can get the MSM to ram this scandal down their lying throats 24/7. They should not be allowed to get their message out about anything else, they should just be forced to address this MONEY LAUNDERING AND FINANCIAL FRAUD scheme that has pumped at least close to $1 million into their campaign coffers (probably a lot more) and lots of $$$ to other Demagogues such as Obama, Spitzer, Cuomo, et al. btw, I have yet to see CHuckie Schumer and the national senate campaign committee mentioned in any of this!?! Is it possible that Hsu was funnelling big bucks to Hillary, Spitzer, and Cuomo yet ignoring both Schumer's own campaign and PAC committees and also the national senate committee?? I very much doubt it! We have to find out whether Schumer is trying to hide with a big pile of Hsu funds while trying to decide what to do about the scandal.....
48 posted on 09/12/2007 5:37:54 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: libstripper

We need to make sure that the name Hsu is as popular as the name Abramoff, and that the terms Hsu, Friend, Democrat, crook are associated as much as possible.

abramoff more than anybody destroyed our party (he had a lot of help from willing republican politicians who loved power and women more than doing what is right). We need to make 2008 into the other half of the washington cleanup.

They purged the crooked republicans in 2006, now we need to get the independents to realise they need to purge the crooked democrats in 2008.


49 posted on 09/12/2007 5:40:30 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: indcons; lightingguy

LOL, Ubama - my husband told me Rush’s theory behind this yesterday. Priceless.


50 posted on 09/12/2007 5:45:59 AM PDT by agrace
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