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Hillary to blame for taking Hsu's cash, insiders say
Union Leader ^ | 9/15/07 | Robert Novak

Posted on 09/15/2007 5:09:06 AM PDT by LdSentinal

Democratic insiders blame Sen. Hillary Clinton’s micromanaging for her presidential campaign’s acceptance of nearly $900,000 in contributions donated or raised by Norman Hsu, convicted for fraud and a former fugitive.

The Clinton campaign has insinuated that her financial aides dropped the ball in failing to vet Hsu before taking his money. But the senator is obsessive in running her own campaign, taking responsibility for details.

Hsu for many years has been well known in New York Democratic circles, appearing at events with $5,000 to $20,000 in contributions. Recipients were ignorant of his criminal background. Nevertheless, considering Clinton administration scandals about dirty money from Asian businessmen, Democrats are amazed that Sen. Clinton did not thoroughly investigate Hsu before accepting funds.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blame; donors; hillary; hsu; novak; scandal
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1 posted on 09/15/2007 5:09:13 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
The Clinton campaign has insinuated that her financial aides dropped the ball in failing to vet Hsu before taking his money.

I think that the reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief.

2 posted on 09/15/2007 5:11:57 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

For Hillary, no money is too dirty until she gets caught.


3 posted on 09/15/2007 5:15:19 AM PDT by LLBeet
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To: LdSentinal

Here we go again, now we have ‘Slickette Hillery’.


4 posted on 09/15/2007 5:16:05 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: LdSentinal

Hillary to blame for taking Hsu’s cash, insiders say....

but its for the children!!!!


5 posted on 09/15/2007 5:16:52 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: LdSentinal
considering Clinton administration scandals about dirty money from Asian businessmen, Democrats are amazed that Sen. Clinton did not thoroughly investigate Hsu before accepting funds

Ding, ding. Of course she knew and knew for years.

6 posted on 09/15/2007 5:19:28 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: LLBeet
“Those familiar with the Clinton response to scandal know the process by heart. It inevitably goes something like this: first, deny any wrongdoing; then explain it as a misunderstanding or bureaucratic mistake; when it is clear there is actual wrongdoing begin to stonewall and obfuscate; then move on to simultaneously attacking anyone who brings up the scandal and dismissing the issue as old news.”
Richard Collins

7 posted on 09/15/2007 5:21:19 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: LdSentinal

"Smartest women in the world..."

FOOLED AGAIN!


8 posted on 09/15/2007 5:22:21 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: LdSentinal

"Smartest woman in the world..."

FOOLED AGAIN!


9 posted on 09/15/2007 5:22:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Loud Mime

Exactly. There is relevant and timely news and old news. It just happens that after the “misunderstanding phase”...anything potentially critical of the Clintons has automatically become old news.


10 posted on 09/15/2007 5:24:29 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Loud Mime

Exactly. There is relevant and timely news and old news. It just happens that after the “misunderstanding phase”...anything potentially critical of the Clintons has automatically become old news.


11 posted on 09/15/2007 5:24:37 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Loud Mime

Exactly. There is relevant and timely news and old news. It just happens that after the “misunderstanding phase”...anything potentially critical of the Clintons has automatically become old news.


12 posted on 09/15/2007 5:24:37 AM PDT by rod1
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To: rod1

Sorry for the double post.


13 posted on 09/15/2007 5:26:19 AM PDT by rod1
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To: LdSentinal

“But the senator is obsessive in running her own campaign, taking responsibility for details.”

Except when it’s found that she broke the law, in which case it’s someone else’s fault. And, if that person refuses to accept blame? — Ask Vince Foster.


14 posted on 09/15/2007 5:26:54 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: LdSentinal
Does this really matter? People don't care about this because both parties accept
illegal donations from illegal sources. As long as they get rid of the donation...

So what? She gave it to charity! That's a real good thing...

15 posted on 09/15/2007 5:27:47 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth

Was her charity the Mt. Carmel Memorial Fund? (in Waco?)


16 posted on 09/15/2007 5:32:34 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: LdSentinal
"Democrats are amazed . . . "

. . . that he was still alive and managed to dig himself out of his earthen grave after being buried alive for three days.

. . . that he decided at the last minute to take a train instead of the doomed plane.

. . . that the poison only made him sick.

. . . that he was able to escape from the trunk of his car on the way to Fort Marcy Park.

17 posted on 09/15/2007 5:37:58 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: LdSentinal; honolulugal; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; null and void; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: Hillary to blame for taking Hsu's cash...

And this is a surprise... to anyone not on their knees to Her Ankleship?

As they say, "Those that ignore history... end up having no history!"

18 posted on 09/15/2007 5:47:02 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Caipirabob

This could be a great campaign ad for a Republican presidential candidtate. First, we have to find one that has the brains to realize it though.


19 posted on 09/15/2007 5:47:42 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: COUNTrecount
I think that the reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief.

Have been waiting for someone in Media to use Hillary's own words. She always has the peferct line when she is in spotlight; albeit she is using her words against someone else. It is like her 'truth' cannot help but 'out itself'.

Hillary's own lines are the best - when used against her.

20 posted on 09/15/2007 5:48:37 AM PDT by cricket
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To: rod1

Not this time! I think this one has legs ecause she has enemies in her own “party!”


21 posted on 09/15/2007 5:49:21 AM PDT by Shady
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To: mtbopfuyn
Ding, ding. Of course she knew and knew for years.

Rush brought up a great point yesterday regarding the vetting of Hsu. Her Thyness has Secret Service protection and has for years. Nobody gets close to someone under Secret Service protection without a thorough background check. She had to know this Hsu guy and what he was about. There's really no way she couldn't have known, unless of course her mind is Jello, jello, jello......

22 posted on 09/15/2007 5:50:20 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: LdSentinal
Democrats are amazed that Sen. Clinton did not thoroughly investigate Hsu before accepting funds.

Right. I'm sure the 'rats are shocked, shocked to discover this sort of thing going on in the Clinton boiler-room. Gimme a break. After fifteen years of the clintons it is manifestly obvious that they have neither awareness nor concern about such petty considerations as right and wrong.

23 posted on 09/15/2007 5:51:09 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: LdSentinal
OK, swell.

Now, where's a Federal prosecutor with the balls to go after her...??

24 posted on 09/15/2007 5:53:47 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: LdSentinal

Surprise.... Surprise.... Hillary Clinton is the most ignorant women on the planet...

OK so we know what Hillary doesn’t know which appears to be just about everything ..... so I guess the question is

What does she know?


25 posted on 09/15/2007 6:00:13 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (“Show me just what Obama brought that was new, and there you will find only evil and Hillary.")
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To: LdSentinal

Wouldn’t it be luvverly if a bunch of Clintonistas bolted the campaign saying that Hsu’s donations were accepted on Hillary’s orders over their objections and they’re sick of this lying sack of woe?


26 posted on 09/15/2007 6:04:32 AM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: sirchtruth

This is the tip of the iceberg... the connection between Hsu the Chinese government and the Paws et, al..... but why won’t it be investigated... The Congress should at the least investigate it as campaign finance illegality.

What if....

People wanted to funnel large amounts of cash to a campaign and therefore got people like HSU to organize donors like the Paws and thousands of others to make cash contributions to candidates.... This is a violation of Campaign Finance and Ethics.... Go after them with the same venom they spewed to go after Scooter Libby... for NOTHING...


27 posted on 09/15/2007 6:07:47 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (“Show me just what Obama brought that was new, and there you will find only evil and Hillary.")
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To: LdSentinal

28 posted on 09/15/2007 6:12:19 AM PDT by Gritty (Hillary believes she is the last good person on Earth, and that no means are beneath her-Dick Morris)
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To: LdSentinal

Oh thats right its only dirty when the GOP does it... Its only Hypocrisy when the Right does it....

Hillary doesn’t know what goes on in her own house, in her own campaign or in her own life and people are actually considering making her the POTUS.....

This is insanity.

Oh Ms. President didn’t you realize that when Iran tested that Nuke it meant they really had them? and so why didn’t you intercede before the Mushroom cloud went up in Tel Aviv?

Hillary on Terror.... Well see I suspended disbelief which allowed those crazy Al-Qaedas to shove a dirty bomb up our keester... Oh well... America.. I’m sorry see I apologized and said I was wrong so that makes it right maybe I will be the first President to go to rehab to make it all better for America then you will all forgive me because you have such big hearts....


29 posted on 09/15/2007 6:14:32 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (“Show me just what Obama brought that was new, and there you will find only evil and Hillary.")
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To: LdSentinal
Hillary to blame for taking Hsu’s cash, insiders say

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

You would think a SMART person like Hillary would have profiled a name like Hau prior to accepting $850,000.00 bills with a picture of George Washington printed on them. George is the one that cut down the cherry tree, but could not tell a lie about it (or so we used to be told). Oh, well, that kind of integrity is outdated, isn’t it.

30 posted on 09/15/2007 6:33:27 AM PDT by CHEE (You don't have to practice to be miserable.)
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To: LdSentinal

The Clintons attract corrupt people like trash attracts flies.


31 posted on 09/15/2007 6:55:20 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Loud Mime
“Those familiar with the Clinton response to scandal know the process by heart. It inevitably goes something like this: first, deny any wrongdoing; then explain it as a misunderstanding or bureaucratic mistake; when it is clear there is actual wrongdoing begin to stonewall and obfuscate; then move on to simultaneously attacking anyone who brings up the scandal and dismissing the issue as old news.”

The last line was practiced by Barbara WaWa on the view this week when Elizabeth mentioned Clinton and Monica. Came unglued and said that was all over and done with. They all practice this brand of misdirection and fake outrage.

32 posted on 09/15/2007 6:57:41 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Humble Servant
Wouldn’t it be luvverly if a bunch of Clintonistas bolted the campaign saying that Hsu’s donations were accepted on Hillary’s orders over their objections and they’re sick of this lying sack of woe?

Doubtful. Hillary! is surrounded by a cadre of true-believers whose liberal philosophy and moral relativism convince them that the ends justify the means. Nothing will stand in the way of achieving their goal, no matter how morally reprehensible.

Tie that in with the unspoken fact that Clintonista backsliders earn a trip to Ft. Marcy Park, and you pretty much bottle up the chance of anyone turning states' evidence.

33 posted on 09/15/2007 6:59:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: sirchtruth

[So what? She gave it to charity! That’s a real good thing...]

I have yet to see PROOF that she has disposed of the $$.


34 posted on 09/15/2007 7:04:49 AM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: dbacks

And if she does give it to charity, which one? One of Hsu’s charities?

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2007/09/01/norman-hsu-and-dnc-fundraisers.aspx
Norman Hsu And DNC Fundraisers
>>>Philanthropy (Hsu)


35 posted on 09/15/2007 7:14:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Thermalseeker
[Nobody gets close to someone under Secret Service protection without a thorough background check. ]

Aren’t they obligated to inform her AND the FBI when they accidentally run into a FELON wanted for flight to avoid justice? How did she shut them up? Why didn’t this go further at the time. I have lots of questions.

36 posted on 09/15/2007 7:20:24 AM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: Calpernia

Some good stuff on your link!


37 posted on 09/15/2007 7:32:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks


38 posted on 09/15/2007 7:35:04 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: tomnbeverly
"This is a violation of Campaign Finance and Ethics.... Go after them with the same venom they spewed to go after Scooter Libby..."

That'll never happen under this administration ('wouldn't be right').
All the more so because we are in an election cycle and Bush in particular fears the appearance of 'politics'.

39 posted on 09/15/2007 7:56:23 AM PDT by norton
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To: SMM48
This could be a great campaign ad for a Republican presidential candidtate. First, we have to find one that has the brains to realize it though.

It's coming. But it's more effective a year from now, unless you're Edwards or Obama. Then it's coming in December, perhaps January.

40 posted on 09/15/2007 7:58:13 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: LdSentinal
Novak is a HAS-BEEN!!! What a pathetic piece of writing..

Hillary KNOWS that HSU, Cheng, Rosenman, Schwartz, Schwatrzman, et al are DIRTY.....SHE IS DIRTY....ANY and ALL around the Clintons ARE dirty...crooks...illegals....traitors.

41 posted on 09/15/2007 8:01:56 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: sirchtruth

I hope you were being sarcastic....Where is the PROOF that she returned the money?? There is NO PROOF....no media is DEMANDING PROOF...SAD...pathetic reporting!!


42 posted on 09/15/2007 8:04:32 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: dbacks

What did the Secret Service KNOW and WHEN did they KNOW it!!! Are they CORRUPT also?


43 posted on 09/15/2007 8:23:04 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Suzy Quzy
What did the Secret Service KNOW and WHEN did they KNOW it!!! Are they CORRUPT also?

Maybe they figure she will be president and want to keep in her better graces
44 posted on 09/15/2007 9:06:07 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: uncbob

They have jobs either way,,,,,but she must have some SHYSTERS in her detail.


45 posted on 09/15/2007 9:08:25 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: LdSentinal

A fly doesn’t go past Hillary without her noticing. Hsu was vouched for by people who have names that will never escape her lips.


46 posted on 09/15/2007 9:12:34 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Shady
Not this time! I think this one has legs ecause she has enemies in her own “party!”

Who brought this to light now, anyway? How did the story get leaked, and by whom?

47 posted on 09/15/2007 9:12:47 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: sirchtruth
"So what? She gave it to charity! That's a real good thing..."

That was only for the $23,000 she initially claimed Hsu gave her. The full $850,000 Hsu bundled to her, will be given back to the people that donated it through Hsu. Her campaign is saying they will accept the money back directly from those people if they choose to donate it. Of course the money didn't come out of those people's pockets to begin with, but that won't stop Hillary from taking it back. The press and the Justice Department should be all over this, but they aren't.

48 posted on 09/15/2007 9:13:07 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Thermalseeker
Rush brought up a great point yesterday regarding the vetting of Hsu. Her Thyness has Secret Service protection and has for years. Nobody gets close to someone under Secret Service protection without a thorough background check. She had to know this Hsu guy and what he was about

This bears repeating again and again.

49 posted on 09/15/2007 9:21:44 AM PDT by US at Risk
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To: LdSentinal
ANYONE else with this many "controversies" in their campaign would be taken down by the media. (SCANDAL!) Hitlery has the press in her pocket.

TEFLON

50 posted on 09/15/2007 9:22:13 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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