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United Nations Jurisdiction Of The Seas ? - The Law Of The Seas Treaty
Red State ^ | Ken Taylor

Posted on 09/16/2007 11:40:42 AM PDT by processing please hold

A move by the Bush administration in May of this year which fell under the radar is soon to come to the Senate. On September 27th the Senate will debate and vote on the full ratification of the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Seas or in short The Law of the Seas Treaty. The treaty in essence gives the United Nation legal jurisdiction over the planets ocean and sets up a tribunal to govern all legal claims to territorial waters, mineral rights and mining and other uses of the worlds oceans, including navigation.

The treaty which has been in existence since the first Conference dating from 1973 - 1982 has never been ratified by The United States. When first presented in 1983 President Ronald Reagan categorically refused to even sign the treaty because he felt that it impugned on United States sovereignty.

Certain portions of the treaty have been beneficial and the United States abides by these terms as a matter of international law. For instance the treaty sets basic territorial waters and prevents nations who wish to push these territorial limits from over extending the recognized waters around their shore line borders. In other words in accordance to treaty limitations a nation cannot stretch its sovereign waters to a limit of say 250 miles and expect all other nations to abide by those unreasonable limits. Yet even with the treaty some countries have over extended their territorial waters without consequence. China and North Korea are among those.

The main contention that The United States has had to the treaty is Part XI which gives the UN full legal control in all mineral rights on every seabed found on the earths oceans. Without treaty ratification if a nation finds, for instance an mineral deposit in international waters and wishes to mine it then they are free to do so. Also ratification of the treaty would place United States fishing interest under the jurisdiction of the UN. U.S. fisheries would have fishing limits set by UN control and if those limits were exceeded they would be required to turn surplus catch over to distribution by the UN.

The Treaty would also require the United States to plead any case which questions the treaty before a non - elected United Nations Tribunal which then would decide in favor or against the United States. In light of the way every UN vote is conducted in recent years and the way that the United States is treated by that vote, this tribunal would be a disaster for U.S. interests. The UN after all loves U.S. money but hates U.S. interests.

In May the Bush Administration at the behest of career diplomats in the State Department urged the United States Senate to ratify all provision of the Treaty and the vote for this ratification begins on September 27th. In the past either a Republican President like Reagan or a Republican Majority in the Senate has blocked any ratification of the treaty. Now with a Democrat Majority who favors all UN control provides a distinct possibility of fully ratifying this treaty.

The dangers for the U.S. in this ratification are as follows:

1. The U.S. would be answerable to a UN unelected tribunal for all matters which involve the Seas and ocean borders of our nation.

2. Other countries environmental regulations could be forced on the United States through the UN and our surrounding waters by international law and mandate. The harvest of our fishing waters would also fall under UN mandate which will set limits and require fishing only in certain areas and relinquishing the surplus harvest to UN distribution. The requirement would also mandate over fishing in these particular areas.

3. The treaty would mandate recognized navigation rights. This provision is not only not necessary but not wanted by US interests because these UN mandated navigational lanes are not threatened by any international law and there is not a nation who has the capability of dictating to the US where we may travel, including the Navy in the world oceans.

4. The treaty gives a blank check to the UN on the spending of money supplied by the U.S. without ANY U.S. oversight.

5. The treaty gives eminent domain rights to the UN over intellectual property. In other words the UN would have the power to seize technology.

This treaty, if ratified, would allow the United Nations a free hand over all of the worlds oceans and any mineral actions taken in the oceans would not only come under UN jurisdiction, but would be taxable to the UN without ANY outside oversight on the spending of the monies acquired. All navigational lanes would be set by UN mandate and any country traveling outside of those mandated navigational lanes, including Navy's would be subject to action by the unelected UN tribunal.

This treaty, if ratified, would transfer wealth and technology by UN mandate from industrialized nations to third world countries. In other words a world wide socialized redistribution of wealth forcing the financial equality of all nations. This treaty would create a huge United Nations bureaucracy with legal jurisdiction over the worlds oceans. The UN has failed in the past in every instance where they have been allowed to run, oversee or control any program. Remember the Iraq Oil For Food Program. Now the US Senate is poised to ratify a treaty that dwarfs the Oil for Food Program both in scope and jurisdiction.

Since the treaty was written the opposition by the U.S. has caused many nations to not sign on to the treaty. The first Bush administration and the the Clinton administration proposed provisions that supposedly corrected the flaws and the Clinton signed the treaty in 1994 which caused some Nations to follow suit and others to ratify. The GOP controlled Senate stopped ratification and many nations who had signed the treaty have not ratified in accordance to the U.S. lead.

Now the present Bush administration is backing full ratification and a Democrat Senate who back the UN and adhere to socialist policies could very likely ratify the treaty. There are 34 no votes needed to prevent ratification. Call, write or e-mail you Senator and urge them to vote against ratification. Time is short. September 27th is just around the corner. This treaty will place vital United States interests under UN control and threatens our sovereignty as a nation which cannot be allowed.

We stopped the Senate Amnesty Bill and with a similar concentrated effort by the people we can prevent the ratification of the Law of the Seas Treaty and save American sovereignty and interests.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freedom; lawoftheseatreaty; liberty; lost; nationalsovereignty; newworldodor; newworldorder; oneworldgovernment; owg; un; unclos; unitednations; unitedstates; us; usa
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To: processing please hold

This would also give the U.N. any oil rights outside of the territorial waters the U.N. would be able to set. Look for territorial waters to be reduced to 50 feet.


21 posted on 09/16/2007 12:21:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: DoughtyOne
Do I even have to say it?

No............

22 posted on 09/16/2007 12:22:00 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I still don’t believe we are being given all the information on LOST. I just opened the UN ratification documents and the U.S.A. ratified LOST August 1996

http://www.un.org/Depts/los/reference_files/status2007.pdf


23 posted on 09/16/2007 12:23:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: RightWhale
PING!!

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

FReepmail to be added to the Congress Watch Ping List.

Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. -John Adams

24 posted on 09/16/2007 12:23:24 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: RightWhale
Interesting. Thanks for the link, another bookmark to add to my growing collection.

Vesta is believed to be solid rock. The oval-shaped object has an average diameter of approximately 320 miles. But Ceres could harbor water or ice beneath its rocky crust. The "baby planet" has an average diameter of about 600 miles.

We are decades from an actual confrontation on the moon, although

Hasn't china, russia and I think Japan been talking about moon shots?

25 posted on 09/16/2007 12:27:09 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

26 posted on 09/16/2007 12:28:59 PM PDT by RightWhale (Snow above 2000')
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To: processing please hold

http://spaceflightnow.com/h2a/selene/070914launch.html

The Selenological and Engineering Explorer - or SELENE - is the first of four lunar explorers set for launch before the end of next year. Orbiters from China, India and the United States will soon join Kaguya at the moon.

The orbiter was nicknamed Kaguya after thousands of suggestions were submitted to JAXA by members of the public. The probe was named after a character in a popular ancient Japanese folktale.


The USA is in the race, but private industry is shut out. The Google challenge will not prospect, so does not count per the Treaty.


27 posted on 09/16/2007 12:31:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Snow above 2000')
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To: DoughtyOne

One need only follow the money. The un wants to be monetarily independent from the US and the rest of the world. We won’t be holding their purse strings any longer. This will give them that opportunity.


28 posted on 09/16/2007 12:32:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I completely agree. First off, they’ll create an army to enforce their will.

This is serious stuff folks.


29 posted on 09/16/2007 12:35:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: Calpernia
Thank you for that link. Bookmarked.

I lost hundreds of bookmarks on the un. We had a power failure a week or so ago and I lost everything.

I'm building them back up.

We aren't being given all the info. We're being fed a bill of goods.

Lugar, I despise that basturd.

30 posted on 09/16/2007 12:39:32 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Nope, the article posted here is propaganda.

The Clinton Administration RATIFIED LOST. Not only did they ratify it, a footnote was added so it wouldn’t go into affect until December 2001!

WHY?

Here, read it yourself:

UN ratification documents and the U.S.A. ratified LOST August 1996

http://www.un.org/Depts/los/reference_files/status2007.pdf

The Bush Administration has been trying to dispute or recapitulate the Treaty.

http://www.un.org/Depts/los/settlement_of_disputes/choice_procedure.htm

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Declaration:

“In accordance with article 30 (4) of the Agreement, the Government of the United States of America declares that it chooses a special arbitral tribunal to be constituted in accordance with Annex VIII of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982 for the settlement of disputes pursuant to Part VIII of the Agreement.”

Someone has been flaming this LOST story incorrectly. I would like to know why.


31 posted on 09/16/2007 12:39:36 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: processing please hold

bump!

You know what is really disturbing? That footnote to keep LOST from becoming active until December 2001.

Did someone know we were going to be hit the fall 2001 and want to restrict a response?

Just what came to my head is all.


32 posted on 09/16/2007 12:41:17 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: RightWhale
Japan launched this week. It's a pretty large orbiter, resource analysis.

For what resources can be found on the moon for future exploration for mining?

33 posted on 09/16/2007 12:42:39 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: DoughtyOne

The treaty is already in effect. Whether the US signs or not is irrelevant.


34 posted on 09/16/2007 12:43:28 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: processing please hold

NO!!!!NEVER!!!


35 posted on 09/16/2007 12:45:03 PM PDT by hershey
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To: RightWhale
Orbiters from China, India and the United States will soon join Kaguya at the moon.

That's what I remember reading. Russia was mentioned somewhere in my lost bookmarks. Damn

The USA is in the race, but private industry is shut out. The Google challenge will not prospect, so does not count per the Treaty.

Thank you.

36 posted on 09/16/2007 12:46:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Ben Ficklin

From reading the article, it appears you are correct. I would never sign on to that nonsense though.

The U.N. has proven it’self to be a flawed concept gone terribly bad. I would never lend it any credibility.


37 posted on 09/16/2007 12:47:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: Bommer
Trusting the UN with anything is like asking a child molester to babysit!

Worth repeating!!!

38 posted on 09/16/2007 12:50:14 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Calpernia
No, clinton signed it in '94. It hasn't been ratified yet.

Bush called for it to be ratified this month.

39 posted on 09/16/2007 12:53:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: DoughtyOne
Do I even have to say it?

Oh, please do, you say it so well.

40 posted on 09/16/2007 12:55:08 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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