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Woman Says She Was Strip-Searched After Power Line Dispute
WSBTV ^ | September 20, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 09/20/2007 4:29:27 PM PDT by decimon

BARROW COUNTY, Ga. -- A Barrow County woman says an off-duty deputy handcuffed and had her strip-searched because of a simple dispute over a power line.

“My life has never been the same since. I’m having a very hard time with it,” said Sue Worley.

A farm in Hoschton in Barrow County has been home to 60-year-old Worley all her life.

Late last year, a letter from the Georgia Transmission Corporation told her a 230 Kilovolt power line was going to go through her property. When surveyors showed up, Worley said she went down the road to talk. She said she didn’t threaten anyone, but the Barrow County deputy working with the surveyors didn’t see it that way -- the deputy called for backup.

“I saw two sheriff’s cars drive up,” said Worley. She was handcuffed, arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

“I was in the car and I went all the way to the jail handcuffed,” she said. Worley was booked into the jail, patted down and strip searched.

“She sprayed me down with lice spray. It was so humiliating,” Worley said. “They made a criminal out of me.”

The charges were dropped, but Worley and her lawyer are suing the Georgia Transmission Company.

“It’s just pure, old-fashioned intimidation. They want people’s land and they don’t want to pay for it,” said Worley's lawyer, Don Evans. “They’re going to set their power poles wherever they want and if anybody gives them any lip, they’ll put you in jail.”

She and her lawyer said they’re suing, not just for her, but for other Georgians facing the threat of eminent domain and what they see as loss of property rights.

“I just don’t see how this could happen in a land of freedom, but we don’t have freedom anymore because people can just do anything they want to,” said Worley.

Project H.O.P.E. -- Homeowners Opposing Power Line Encroachment -- said Worley's case shows the need for the governor and legislature to draw stronger citizen-friendly laws to prevent what it calls, "preferential treatment," for power companies.

A spokesperson for the Georgia Transmission Corporation told Channel 2 they had hired a deputy because they'd had some subtle threats from other residents in the area.

Right now, it looks like the power line will go up either late next year or in early 2009.


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To: decimon

Hillary, Helen Thomas, Lynne Stewart, Barbara Boxer, and others know that they will never be strip searched. After all, ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!


201 posted on 09/27/2007 7:53:13 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: cva66snipe

Good job protecting your rights. There has to be a fair agreement. The lines have to be ran, and the property owner has to be treated fairly.


202 posted on 09/28/2007 11:47:08 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: NonValueAdded
She was strip-searched and deloused as part of the standard jail intake procedure.

Maybe it is the SOP of this particular jail, or even of many jails, but it's not SOP for intake into ALL jails.

Don't ask me how I know.

203 posted on 09/28/2007 11:47:52 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Police Chief Grady: I'm sorry about that delousing. Just standard procedure.

Farva: It's powdered sugar.

Police Chief Grady: The lice hate the sugar.

Farva: [deadpanning] It's delicious.


204 posted on 09/28/2007 11:52:03 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Pontiac
Things may be more complicated now, but you are wrong on one point. You don't have to climb up "to change generator brushes" because the modern wind generators use alternators, not generators. Alternators don't have brushes.

However, the fact that they create AC is what drives the need for solid-state rectifiers to go with the regulators to provide DC that can be stored in a battery.

205 posted on 09/28/2007 12:06:57 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: NVDave
she was probably saying things like: “Why are you making such a mess? The easement said you would take a strip only ‘X’ wide, but this mess is a lot wider than that! When are you going to pay for this? Who is the supervisor?

You are 100% correct. I have a 5-foot easement on the far edge of my property. When a fire broke out 1/2 mile away in the adjoining woods, do you think the fire trucks used the public fire lane? Noooo, they used not just the easement on my property, but my entire back yard, leaving deep ruts and breaking down my herb garden and wall. The grass has never recovered in one area, despite reseeding, due to the weight of the trucks making the ground so hard. Guess I should have sued for a foot-deep rototill and a complete resodding, but I try to be cooperative. I, too, am an old lady, and I too, was threatened with arrest when I questioned the driver of an unmarked fire jeep from an entirely different township rode past 3 feet from my back door for a fire 1/2 mile away into the woods, so far you couldn't even smell it.

206 posted on 09/28/2007 12:07:53 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: jim_trent
Well, it's obvious you don't work in New Jersey. We lost a governor just after a scandal arose where he tried to extort money from a landowner who was previously offered pennies on the dollar for his land. You probably don't remember the case, as the Gov in question dodged the whole felony issue by claiming to be gay and implying that it meant he was unfit for office - so he resigned.

New Jersey being what it is, the whole extortion thing just sort of went away. I don't remember what the landowner got. But I really doubt that this Governor tried this trick out of the blue, without knowing how often it had worked on smaller landowners by less prominent politicians.

207 posted on 09/28/2007 12:11:50 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: driftdiver; Mark was here
“I value property rights also. I also feel that some uses of eminent domain are legitimate. Utilities are vitally important. Life as we know it will cease with out electricity, it is as necessary as food and water” Yep and we should allow the utilities to put their towers anyplace they wish right. /sarc

Let's not forget the politically unfavorable appearance of the property owner here. In our local area, a cellphone tower was supposed to go up near the all-minority high school, but outraged parents pressured the Democrat local government and have now stopped that. The next step would have been getting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to put this grave injustice and oppression by white people onto their to-do list.

208 posted on 09/28/2007 12:13:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: maine-iac7; driftdiver
and then assuming that the person you posted too doesn't read much

I’ve probably read more books this month then you’ll read all year.

I think the important thing in an "I'm more literate than you" pissing contest is to make sure you don't have any spelling or grammar mistakes in the posts where you are doing it. :)

209 posted on 09/28/2007 12:16:13 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
She didn't threaten anyone...but what exactly did she say?

And how did she say it? If she was screaming like a banshee and acting aggressive and out of control, then there was a reason to arrest her for disorderly conduct. If she was relatively calm (meaning she could do some yelling without being out of control), then they certainly shouldn't have arrested her.

I do think the strip search and lice spray was over the line, but perhaps that is SOP for all arrests.

210 posted on 09/28/2007 12:21:33 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ricks_place

I think a strip search should be mandatory even for a parking ticket. :)


211 posted on 09/28/2007 12:21:57 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: decimon

“Woman Says She Was Strip-Searched After Power Line Dispute”

Did they find it?


212 posted on 09/28/2007 12:22:55 PM PDT by Grunthor (It's tough to be the candidate of the ct'ers and maintain any shred of credibility)
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To: nicmarlo

It could be that what the lady is calling a strip search was the jail taking her clothing and issuing her jail coveralls or whatever they wear.


213 posted on 09/28/2007 12:31:06 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: seemoAR

Well, that sucks! I’m glad you got more out of your house than you thought you would, though.


214 posted on 09/28/2007 12:36:56 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: cva66snipe
As one who has personally faced off with the nations government owned power producer TVA over a R.O.W. and Eminent Domain violation myself I would not be quick to judge her.

I'm with you here...I've chased county surveyors and private ones of my land in MD and CA several times. Same thing with those interested in doing "nature surveys". They can be tenacious, one group had a private security gaurd who said he was there "to make sure they were not harrassed". I pointed out that he was trespassing with a gun and that felony charges would follow his arrest. He was not pleased as I ran his charges off.

I strongly advice anyone in this situation to have someone nearby with a video camera when talking to the power company.

This is becoming the norm when dealing with any government or quasi government agency. There has been a lot of discission here lately about the Brett Darrow who got a cop fired by recording the threats hurled at him.

215 posted on 09/28/2007 12:46:47 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: cva66snipe
...I strongly advice anyone in this situation to have someone nearby with a video camera when talking to the power company. Worked for me. And by no means make any physical threats. Saying leave my property until I call my congressman and other officals and Representative's is by no means a threat. It is a right.

Great story. Good for you!

216 posted on 09/28/2007 12:48:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: decimon

If they put up a power line over my objections, I set up a parallel line and steal power through induction. They complain? Keep your magnetic fields off of my property.


217 posted on 09/28/2007 12:49:25 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: antiRepublicrat

” I think the important thing in an “I’m more literate than you” pissing contest is to make sure you don’t have any spelling or grammar mistakes in the posts where you are doing it. :)”

No pissing contest. I didn’t appreciate his snide comments that failed to add value to the discussion. These forums are not a doctoral thesis. Add to the discussion or move on.


218 posted on 09/28/2007 12:50:56 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: antiRepublicrat
and then assuming that the person you posted too doesn't read much I’ve probably read more books this month then you’ll read all year. I think the important thing in an "I'm more literate than you" pissing contest is to make sure you don't have any spelling or grammar mistakes in the posts where you are doing it. :)

ROFLOL!! Two bad its to long for a taglyne!! /sarc off

Seriously, it's my pet peeve on FR... I'm thinking of doing a thread just on the proper use of "it's" vs. "its" alone.

219 posted on 09/28/2007 12:53:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: IrishCatholic

>>What a pathetic excuse for journalism.

Conservatively, I’d say we could say that for 90%-98% of the MSM stories out there.


220 posted on 09/28/2007 12:53:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: driftdiver

Dude, there was a smiley on that.


221 posted on 09/28/2007 12:58:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: NVDave

“on your own property”
From the article:”Worley said she went down the road to talk.”
So,,, maybe she wasn’t on her own property.


222 posted on 09/28/2007 1:03:50 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Pontiac
It does put a deputy in the position of serving two masters. Working security for a company like this does change the way a deputy sees things, he can’t help himself. He will build a relationship with those people he is working with.

However, the deputy that was providing security didn't arrest the woman. He called the sheriff's office and they sent other deputies to respond to the incident, and they arrested her.

The utility workers do have a legal right to be there. If you go and harass someone that has a legal right to be where they are, that is disorderly conduct, even if you remain on your own property while doing it.

The deputies that showed up after the off duty deputy called for backup are going to take him at his word that she was disorderly even if she was not misbehaving when they arrived.

So you're suggesting that this off duty officer just called in the other sheriff's deputies for the fun of it? If he did he must really like being ridiculed by his co-workers for not being able to deal with an old woman.

You think his co-workers are going to enjoy going out there and arresting an old woman and taking her to jail?

You're suggesting he is doing this to make the utility workers or the utility company happy. Why would the workers make a big deal out of this unless she was harassing them. Why would the utility company want the bad press of arresting an old woman?

She went over to them, not the other way around. Arguing with utility workers is also a pretty useless thing to do. They don't have any authority to change where the power lines go.

I find it hard to believe that officers arrested a little old woman for disorderly conduct when she didn't give them reason to do so. I also find it difficult to believe that an off duty deputy is going to call out other deputies just because a woman is standing on her own property and watching them.

LEO should not be permitted to moonlight as private security. It is a conflict of interest.

There's no evidence that he called out the other officers because of a conflict of interest, and if you want to ban deputies from having side jobs, you're going to have to pay them considerably more, because deputies don't get paid very well, and the side jobs are where they make a very large portion of their incomes. If you take away their ability to make a reasonable living, you're just going to end up with lower quality deputies.

223 posted on 09/28/2007 1:07:19 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: antiRepublicrat

“Dude, there was a smiley on that.

Sorry, didn’t really mean that towards you. That was more in general towards folks who nit pick about unimportant details.


224 posted on 09/28/2007 1:08:29 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Just trying to lighten things up.


225 posted on 09/28/2007 2:31:05 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Albion Wilde
Let's not forget the politically unfavorable appearance of the property owner here. In our local area, a cellphone tower was supposed to go up near the all-minority high school, but outraged parents pressured the Democrat local government and have now stopped that. The next step would have been getting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to put this grave injustice and oppression by white people onto their to-do list.

The FCC has gone a long way in reliving local communities from the burden of extorting large sums from those wishing to place cell phone towers. Bottom line? Less costs to be passed on to cell phone customers. This is a case of the federal government allowing people to actually use the property they own, as opposed to the locals who think they own every square inch of the city.

226 posted on 09/28/2007 2:33:17 PM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: decimon
She was handcuffed, arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

I'm waiting for the day when the extremely subjective, fuzzy charge of "disorderly conduct" is canned by some good judges. How can a charge of "disorderly conduct" be proven? What is the objective standard by which a citizen would know when he is or is not engaging in "disorderly conduct"? Can there even be the necessary unlawful intent present in such circumstances?

"Disorderly conduct" translates to: "because the cop wanted to arrest you". It has no place in reasonable law, IMO.

227 posted on 09/28/2007 2:36:09 PM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: decimon
“I just don’t see how this could happen in a land of freedom,...

Well, there's your problem right there.

228 posted on 09/28/2007 2:40:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: TChris
What is the objective standard by which a citizen would know when he is or is not engaging in "disorderly conduct"?

Every tenth post on FR. ;-)

229 posted on 09/28/2007 2:41:17 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

“land of freedom”
where have you been? The freedom has been lost.


230 posted on 09/28/2007 2:50:20 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Mark was here

Care to respond to my closing question in 199?


231 posted on 09/28/2007 3:11:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Mark was here

In my neighborhood, all the power lines are underground. I don’t know why this is not done everywhere. Not only is there no worry, about snowstorms, hurricanes, etc., less people are hitting poles with their cars, which does shut down our lines, but they are underground, so I don’t know why anyone would complain about them.


232 posted on 09/28/2007 3:16:35 PM PDT by JBCiejka
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To: Balding_Eagle
The taking of private property in Akron to give to a private company such as Goodyear, is absolutely wrong. Those who elected the city government that is attempting to take the property, are the most sorry collection of voters ever assembled, and it would not bother me one bit if ever one of these voters decided to put a Goodyear Tire around their neck, fill the tire with gasoline, and give themselves a Mandela style, necklace. They are as stupid as the Kelo voters.

If Goodyear needs the property, they can buy it, where there is a will there is a way.

This is a completely different set of circumstances, than routing a utility or a highway.

233 posted on 09/28/2007 3:37:56 PM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Mark was here
The taking of private property in Akron to give to a private company such as Goodyear, is absolutely wrong.

It doesn't matter what you think anymore.

The people from your camp (including judges) have given the power to take the land by eminant domain.

Their logic? The Goodyear plant is vital to the interests of the people of Akron, just as the building of a utility line is also vital to a specific group of people.

234 posted on 09/28/2007 3:58:20 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
It doesn't matter what you think anymore.The people from your camp (including judges) have given the power to take the land by eminant domain.

The Michigan Supreme court recently ruled the decision to allow General Motors to build the Poletown plant was wrong. They ruled against Wayne County Michigan, when they wanted to take land to build a industrial park by the Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

So maybe you are right, what I think does not mater, but at least in Michigan, the State Supreme court still has some sway.

By the way what is your camp? If you really practiced what you preached, you would not travel on any public road built by using eminent domain, or use any electricity distributed over any power line built on a government obtained right of way. You remind me of the Kennedys who are for wind power, except in their back yard.

235 posted on 09/28/2007 5:16:14 PM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: untrained skeptic
I believe it was a female off duty officer and she, IMO, really over reacted. She wanted the land owner to leave and not watch the surveyors.

And yes this happens often. The intimidation of land owners to empower the officer's second employer.
236 posted on 09/29/2007 4:44:45 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Um....I doubt it.

If that’s all that happened, a lawyer wouldn’t be taking the case. Much of her claims would be documented in the jail system itself, the paperwork would be accessible to her, and she would have given permission for her lawyer to have copies of the paperwork from the county.


237 posted on 09/29/2007 6:53:44 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: untrained skeptic
if you want to ban deputies from having side jobs, you're going to have to pay them considerably more, because deputies don't get paid very well,

Well I see that you live in Ohio, but I do not which county. But here in Lake County the Deputies are pretty well paid IMO. With an added benefit of driving their cruiser home considerably cuts the cost of living

So you're suggesting that this off duty officer just called in the other sheriff's deputies for the fun of it? If he did he must really like being ridiculed by his co-workers for not being able to deal with an old woman.

Your above does not take in to account that if he arrest the woman he would have to leave his off duty security job to take her away. His surveyor charges would be unprotected.

You think his co-workers are going to enjoy going out there and arresting an old woman and taking her to jail?

No, but I do believe that they will take their fellow deputy’s word that the woman was disorderly.

You're suggesting he is doing this to make the utility workers or the utility company happy. Why would the workers make a big deal out of this unless she was harassing them. Why would the utility company want the bad press of arresting an old woman?

What I am suggesting is that harassment is often a matter of perception. The property owner did not believe that she was harassing anyone but the officer did. I believe that the officer’s perception could be unconsciously altered by his employment with the utilities.

Spending time with these surveyors long enough he is going to form friendships with them.

It is likely that if he has been with these surveyors for a few months that other land owners have stopper the surveyors and asked similar questions. The surveyors after a time would start to become irritated by these questions as would the officer. Over time the officer might get a little short tempered and confrontational. If the old woman did not back down right away he may just decide to arrest her.

It is the personal relationship with the off duty employer (or their employees) that I see as the problem. It has the potential to change the way that a LEO perceives the behavior of those who interact with those he is hired by.

Arguing with utility workers is also a pretty useless thing to do….I find it hard to believe that officers arrested a little old woman for disorderly conduct when she didn't give them reason to do so.

She said she was asking questions not arguing. As I said above disorderly is a matter of perception. I suspect that the officer told her to leave the vicinity of the surveyors and she balked at being told to leave her own property. The officer having been in this situation again and again over the months of doing this part time job decided she was being disorderly.

We both are just surmising what happened because we have only the woman’s side of things. But this is my take.

238 posted on 09/29/2007 10:26:54 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: nicmarlo

Um...I don’t know, and, um, neither do you. So save your “um” for someone else.
The rest of your post is possible.


239 posted on 09/30/2007 6:28:57 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: decimon

Are they going to PAY her for the land use AND for the fact her ENTIRE PROPERTY will now lose value?

Seems they are taking without paying.


240 posted on 09/30/2007 6:34:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Are they going to PAY her for the land use AND for the fact her ENTIRE PROPERTY will now lose value?

She's being awarded something but there's no indication of how much. And I would have no idea what would be reasonable in Barrow County, Georgia.

241 posted on 09/30/2007 6:46:33 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

and it is not just the raw land. The mere take for THAT use diminishes ALL her land.


242 posted on 09/30/2007 6:52:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hoosierham

Now meter readers have a hand held electronic device and can read your meter without getting out of the truck or even getting very close. I have locked gates now and I like it!


243 posted on 09/30/2007 7:00:49 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Balding_Eagle
Their logic? The Goodyear plant is vital to the interests of the people of Akron, just as the building of a utility line is also vital to a specific group of people

Back in 1985? the real estate definition of "best and highest use" was that use which generated the most money;therefore under that way of thinking,no one's property is safe from confiscation ,as long as the new otenant has a plan to make more money.

We are all tenants,...think not? try skipping a property tax payment and tell them you can't afford the gov't provided fire protection,etc.

244 posted on 09/30/2007 7:58:40 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: BabsC
She wanted the land owner to leave and not watch the surveyors.

According to whom? The woman who was arrested? Is that what the arresting officers put in their report? Even if the off duty officer overreacted, the other two officers would also have to be negligent in their duties.

If she had been harassing them, and then said she would be quiet and just wanted to watch them, they have every reason to demand that she leave the area, because they don't want to come back if she starts harassing them again. The workers had every legal right to be there. The woman also has every legal right to be there as long as she respects the right of others and doesn't harass them.

And yes this happens often. The intimidation of land owners to empower the officer's second employer.

And what exactly are you basing that assumption upon?

245 posted on 10/01/2007 8:31:15 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: NonValueAdded
That Kerry jerk deserved to get tased and I’m sure he got strip-searched and deloused too ... did this woman offer similar resistance?

No on both counts.

246 posted on 10/01/2007 8:36:26 AM PDT by subterfuge (It's GREAT, to be, a Florida Gator!)
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To: maine-iac7

This dangerous perp was strip searched for one reason and one reason only. As punishment for questioning one of our keepers.

Haven’t you people learned? Lower your gaze, speak reverently, make no sudden moves, OR ELSE!!!


247 posted on 10/01/2007 8:42:25 AM PDT by subterfuge (It's GREAT, to be, a Florida Gator!)
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To: untrained skeptic
According to whom

Her own and other witnesses reports.


And what exactly are you basing that assumption upon?

I don't assume, I base it on seven going on eight years of court actions and legislative changes at the state level concerning the same company. Knowledge acquired from other landowners, previous GTC employees and other law enforcement personnel.

For more go to HopeOfGeorgia.com
248 posted on 10/01/2007 9:51:22 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: Pontiac
Well I see that you live in Ohio, but I do not which county. But here in Lake County the Deputies are pretty well paid IMO.

I'm in Greene County, not that it really matters for the purpose of this discussion. I did a quick search and found a report that included salary survey info from 2004.

In Ohio the average starting salary for Deputy Sheriffs was $29,868.87 in 2004. That has probably gone up about 2% a year to cover cost of living increases.

Assuming 40 hours a week for 52 weeks a year, that is $14.36 an hour. I don't know what union dues are, but since they are required to be part of the union, that needs to come out of that.

So they make about $14 an hour for a relatively dangerous job, with crappy hours, where they have to deal with the worst aspects of the public.

With an added benefit of driving their cruiser home considerably cuts the cost of living

They get to drive it to and from work. They don't get to drive it around for personal use. All it saves them is paying for gas to and from work, and none of them have a very long commute, because they have to live in the county in which they work. It isn't the big deal you make it out to be.

I said:

So you're suggesting that this off duty officer just called in the other sheriff's deputies for the fun of it? If he did he must really like being ridiculed by his co-workers for not being able to deal with an old woman.

You responded:

Your above does not take in to account that if he arrest the woman he would have to leave his off duty security job to take her away. His surveyor charges would be unprotected.

Leaving his off duty job to arrest the woman really isn't much of an option. He did the right thing in calling in other officers to deal with the issue. The reason to do that is to avoid the conflict of interest of acting as an on duty officer while being paid for doing security. Instead he called the sheriff's department, just like any other security guard could do, and let the on duty deputies come out and investigate the incident and act accordingly.

However, that doesn't seem to stop the usual suspect from screaming how there was a conflict of interest, even though the off duty officer didn't make the arrest and called in the incident just like anyone else could.

No, but I do believe that they will take their fellow deputy’s word that the woman was disorderly.

Well, if they know him, they probably have a pretty good idea if he would lie about such a thing or not. Of course there are also the workers and the woman herself that they can talk to and try and resolve the issue. However, you usually don't get hauled off to jail for disorderly conduct, unless you refuse to stop disturbing the peace. You instead get cited and have to pay a fine.

The arresting officers don't want to fill out the paperwork for an arrest report. They don't want to deal with their sergeant asking them why they had to arrest a little old lady and couldn't talk her into calming down. They had to know the sheriff wouldn't be happy considering that he is an elected official and arresting little old women on their property for disturbing the peace is going to look bad.

Even if their fellow officer tells them the woman had been creating a disturbance, and they believed them, arresting her is a rather extreme solution unless the situation itself dictated it.

However, we really don't know what happened. All we know from the article is that she says she didn't threaten anyone, which is pretty vague. You don't get to hear the deputies' side because they aren't allowed to talk about it, especially when she is threatening a lawsuit.

What I am suggesting is that harassment is often a matter of perception. The property owner did not believe that she was harassing anyone but the officer did. I believe that the officer’s perception could be unconsciously altered by his employment with the utilities.

Well, those utility workers have every right to be there, and they need to be there to do their jobs. The woman has every right to be on her property as long as she isn't interfering with the workers. However, exactly what purpose do you think she had in going over to the workers? The workers aren't going to be able to answer any questions for her, and I didn't see any allegations that they were outside of the utility right of way. She doesn't particularly need a reason to be there, but it isn't very credible to suggest that she was completely innocent in her intents and wasn't disruptive, while the evil utility workers and the evil off duty officer just had her arrested for doing nothing but watching.

I've heard people complain about intimidation. What purpose does it serve the utility workers to try and intimidate this woman? They are just there doing their jobs. You've got to make some really one sided assumptions of bad intent on the part of the utility workers, the off duty deputy, and the two on duty deputies to come to the conclusion that they were intimidating a poor woman who was doing nothing but minding her own business.

Spending time with these surveyors long enough he is going to form friendships with them.

So. It's not like the surveyors have any reason to want to falsely accuse the woman of harassment either. From the story, it also sounds like the utility hiring off duty officers to provide security was a pretty recent development.

It is likely that if he has been with these surveyors for a few months that other land owners have stopper the surveyors and asked similar questions. The surveyors after a time would start to become irritated by these questions as would the officer.

That's not exactly unreasonable on their part since the surveyors are the wrong people to be asking such questions. If they told her they were unable to help her and she kept asking and insisting, that would be harassment. They are under no obligation to stop what they are doing and try and satisfy her.

I suspect that the officer told her to leave the vicinity of the surveyors and she balked at being told to leave her own property.

Well, if she kept badgering them, then she was harassing them and disturbing the peace.

Over time the officer might get a little short tempered and confrontational. If the old woman did not back down right away he may just decide to arrest her.

That's a pretty big assumption, and it also ignores the fact that he didn't arrest here. He called the Sheriff's office and they sent out two deputies that were on duty, and they decided to arrest her.

We both are just surmising what happened because we have only the woman’s side of things. But this is my take.

Understandable. I responded with why I don't think that your "take" is very credible. It is possible that it happened that way, but it requires a number of people to act unreasonably, rather than one person to get irate and feel that they have the right to say whatever they want as long as they remain on their property, especially when they dispute that the surveyors have a right to be there.

249 posted on 10/01/2007 11:21:12 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

According to the police report filed by Deputy Bush, she stood in Ms. Worley’s field and told Ms. Worley the property owner that she was not allowed to be present on her property during the surveying process. This female deputy had absolutely no authority to tell Ms. Worley that she was not able to be on or to move freely about her own property. When Ms. Worley restated her desire to remain on her property she was told by Bush that “She would see about that”. Then later after backup was call Ms. Worley’s was unlawfully arrested and her life altered for ever.

Get the facts, here is a link to the documents pertaining to Ms. Worley’s eminent domain nightmare.

Press Release: http://www.hopeofgeorgia.com/press_releases/press_release_092007.htm

Arrest Documents: http://www.hopeofgeorgia.com/?file=worley/index

These are some of the media links:

Fox Cable News Network aired a story live from the Barrow County Sheriff’s office that ran for about 6 min. long. Then there was another live story on “The Fox Report” that evening with Sheppard Smith

The story has been carried locally by WSBTV Channel 2 video: http://www.wsbtv.com/video/14162266/index.html and online: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14161104/detail.html . Ms. Worley has been a guest on the Martha Zoller show on WDUN radio this week as well.

HOPE of Georgia is working to make further changes to eminent domain law and we need Georgia citizens help! HOPE of Georgia needs people contacting the Governor and their representatives in the legislature. HOPE does not want to stop construction, we just want to make sure people are treated fair and their rights are not violated in this state by the power utilities.

Don’t wait until they come for your land to take stand, it might be to late.

Mike Carter
Chairman
HOPE of Georgia
mike@hopeofgeorgia.com
www.hopeofgeorgia.com


250 posted on 10/01/2007 11:53:33 AM PDT by HOPE_of_Georgia (Chairman - HOPE of Georgia)
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