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Government Advisors: Dutch Should Adapt to Muslims
nisnews.nl ^ | 09/22/07 | nisnews.nl

Posted on 09/23/2007 5:10:02 PM PDT by Pikamax

AMSTERDAM, 22/09/07 - The Scientific Council for Government Policy (WRR) says the Dutch must adapt themselves more to Islam. It also advises the elimination of the word 'allochtoon', the most common term used to describe residents with a foreign background.

The WRR itself thought up the word allochtoon in 1989. In a report at the time it was suggested this neutral-sounding word was less stigmatising than, for example, immigrant or foreigner. The WRR advice was successful; today, media, schools and politicians all use allochtoon.

Now the WRR however advises using the word allochtoon as little as possible. The word "is no longer neutral" and is stigmatising, the Council says in a report to appear Monday under the title Identification with the Netherlands.

The WRR also considers the Dutch must be prepared to adapt their standards to that of newcomers, for example in the area of religion and sexuality. Tolerance for Islam is too low and question marks on the sexualisation of Dutch society are justified, in its view.

In the report, the WRR also says that the integration debate is not helped by the fixation on the concept of 'national identity'. The report says that there is nothing wrong with the dual nationality held by most immigrants in the Netherlands.

The WRR already produced a controversial report last year (Dynamics in Islamic activism) when it complained that many Dutch politicians are involved in "Islam-bashing" and urged dialogue with "moderate movements such as Hamas." Christian democratic (CDA) MP Maxime Verhagen, now Foreign Minister, at the time termed the report unscientific and "sloppy rubbish". But in a recent debate, the present CDA-led government called the report valuable.

According to newspaper Volkskrant, the WRR will also advise on Monday that primary schools should be encouraged to have ethnically mixed pupil populations. They should be given the statutory commission to create a 'link' between population groups, said WRR member and Labour (PvdA) Upper House member Pauline Meurs in the newspaper Friday.


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1 posted on 09/23/2007 5:10:05 PM PDT by Pikamax
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Interesting. Kind of like the shift from the word “liberal” to the word “progressive.” Until that word takes on the same connotations as “liberal” has now, of course. Then we’ll need another new one.


2 posted on 09/23/2007 5:11:43 PM PDT by kc8ukw
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Pointy headed intellectual fools.

The word "is no longer neutral" and is stigmatising,

Of course.

No matter what you call a problem it remains a problem -- and the name for the problem will come to reflect what it identifies.

3 posted on 09/23/2007 5:12:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Pikamax

“Dutch should adapt more to muslims”

READ: Dutch should become muslims or be ready to be killed.


4 posted on 09/23/2007 5:13:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: kc8ukw
progressive is easier to invert to what they really are -- regressives...
5 posted on 09/23/2007 5:14:05 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Amzing, isn’t it?

Why the heck don’t they stand up for themselves?

Are they ashamed to be Dutch????


6 posted on 09/23/2007 5:14:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Pikamax

Adapt to Muslims? I thought that Muslims were just like you and me.


7 posted on 09/23/2007 5:16:31 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Pikamax

Why not? If every Dutchman carried a sword and was allowed to hack off the head of any Mohammedan he came into contact with, the Netherlands would be a much safer place for the Dutch.


8 posted on 09/23/2007 5:17:20 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Pikamax

Does this mean no more Heineken?


9 posted on 09/23/2007 5:18:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Pikamax

Step number one: Do away with the WRR.

Step number two: Do ...


10 posted on 09/23/2007 5:19:12 PM PDT by NicknamedBob ("The enemy of my enemy is an anemone." -- Nemo, and Nemo's father.)
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To: Pikamax

Too Funny, oh yes let the Dutch become much more accepting of Islam, and when they have any strength at all, they will promptly start killing everyone who doesn’t agree with them.

These people really shock me..

Err...dude.....gay marriage and fundamental Islam will not mix, and yet you wish to try, should be fun....can we say Allah Akbar?


11 posted on 09/23/2007 5:20:01 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Pikamax

The whole world is nuts!


12 posted on 09/23/2007 5:20:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: NicknamedBob

LOL!!


13 posted on 09/23/2007 5:20:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: NicknamedBob

Howdy!


14 posted on 09/23/2007 5:21:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Pikamax
>>...and urged dialogue with “moderate movements such as Hamas.”<<

This bit is from last yr. report. Disarmed and defenseless, the Dutch trudge on to dhimmitude.

15 posted on 09/23/2007 5:24:14 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Pikamax
"Government Advisors: Dutch Should Adapt to Muslims Nazis"

There, fixed it.

Oh, and, yeah, F**K that ! The Nazi pigs can rot in hell.

16 posted on 09/23/2007 5:24:17 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: BenLurkin
Pointy headed intellectual fools.

Real toons.

17 posted on 09/23/2007 5:24:58 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Pikamax

Why don’t the dopes just surrender.These Islamics should be forced to adapt to their new countries laws and social Mores. Not the other way around.


18 posted on 09/23/2007 5:26:21 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Why not? If every Dutchman carried a sword and was allowed to hack off the head of any Mohammedan he came into contact with, the Netherlands would be a much safer place for the Dutch.
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no because the dutch would think the sword is just a kinky sex toy


19 posted on 09/23/2007 5:27:06 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Pikamax
the Dutch must adapt themselves more to Islam.

In other words, submit to it.

As I've said many times here, at some point in this century, we are going to have to save Europe from itself. Again. Whether we want to or not.

20 posted on 09/23/2007 5:27:11 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Pikamax

Translation: We surrender.


21 posted on 09/23/2007 5:28:04 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Keyes/Paul '08 - When you can't get crazy enough.)
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To: Pikamax

Good bye Dutchland. 20 years you will be paying the tax.


22 posted on 09/23/2007 5:29:45 PM PDT by mmanager (Fred is choosing the field for battle and he likes the view.)
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To: Pikamax

Good bye Dutchland. 20 years you will be paying the tax.


23 posted on 09/23/2007 5:29:53 PM PDT by mmanager (Fred is choosing the field for battle and he likes the view.)
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To: Pikamax

“The Scientific Council for Government Policy”

Trouble on wheels. Scientific? Balderdash.


24 posted on 09/23/2007 5:32:07 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: denydenydeny

“As I’ve said many times here, at some point in this century, we are going to have to save Europe from itself. Again. Whether we want to or not.”

The problem lies in the demographics now. World Wars I and II did not have that component.


25 posted on 09/23/2007 5:33:36 PM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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To: Pikamax

Pat Buchanan wrote about this stuff 5 or 6 years ago in “The death of the west.”


26 posted on 09/23/2007 5:35:33 PM PDT by Radix (When I became a man, I put away childish things!)
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To: Pikamax

The pilgrims left there because they saw waaay back when, that the Dutch were weakening even then. They were right. Is it in the water?


27 posted on 09/23/2007 5:36:50 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: BenLurkin
"Why the heck don’t they stand up for themselves?"

Yeah!

Afer all, they did so well in WW2.

28 posted on 09/23/2007 5:38:45 PM PDT by norton
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To: kc8ukw
Kind of like the shift from the word “liberal” to the word “progressive.”

Exactly. A liberal by any other name would smell as putrid.

29 posted on 09/23/2007 5:41:37 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Radix

They’re dead already.


30 posted on 09/23/2007 5:41:43 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Pikamax
Again a major difference between people of character and principle and those on the left throughout the world. They put so much emphasis on language because they feel all minds can be shaped by the mere use of it. While we look at the actions and and ignore the spoken word. Actions are louder than words is a cliche for a reason.
31 posted on 09/23/2007 5:43:28 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: denydenydeny

As I’ve said many times here, at some point in this century, we are going to have to save Europe from itself. Again. Whether we want to or not.

We dont have it...not going to happen.


32 posted on 09/23/2007 5:43:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Pikamax
I hope not one drop of American blood is ever shed to rescue these imbeciles. If this is how they value their own lives then people like this aren’t worth saving.
33 posted on 09/23/2007 5:46:00 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Amzing, isn’t it? Why the heck don’t they stand up for themselves? Are they ashamed to be Dutch????

The Dutch are going through the same problems we are having with immigration and our government. What the Dutch people as a whole want and what some people in the government want are two different things. The Dutch people are as fed up with their Muslim invasion as we are with our Mexican invasion. They have already got their immigration laws beefed up in an attempt to keep more Muslims out.

They have also strongly resisted allowing Turkey to enter the European Union because they don't want them to be a member state with equal say in EU policy. Even though they have the reputation of being very liberal, most Dutch realize that their culture was based on Christian values and that those values are far superior and allow more freedom than would a system based on Muslim values.

34 posted on 09/23/2007 5:46:12 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Pistolshot; All
Translation: We surrender.

Yeah, I'm afraid so. It's interesting - and damned sad - to read about how Holland has changed since we chased the wolf away the last time around.

Have a look...

35 posted on 09/23/2007 5:50:05 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Pikamax
The WRR itself thought up the word allochtoon in 1989.

How about using "spitoon" instead? Or "buffoon"? Or "vermin" (the latter applied to muslimes only).

36 posted on 09/23/2007 5:59:20 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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the Dutch must adapt themselves more to Islam.....Dutch must be prepared to adapt their standards to that of newcomers, for example in the area of religion and sexuality...

Well, there goes the neighborhood...no, wait, it's already long gone. (What insanity. Do they really think 'Islam" will be content with anything less than eventual takeover? It isn't as though the muzzies have kept their goal of restoring the Caliphate over all the world a secret.

The muzzies greatest weapon, both abroad and here - has been/is PC - and "hate crimes"

Over 400 years ago, those known as the Mayflower Pilgrims left England and moved to Holland which practiced religious freedom.

They got along well with the Hollanders and never expected the Dutch to conform to their ways. However, after 12 years, with their children growing up and starting to adopt some of the Dutch ways, they were afraid they would lose their English customs and their way of worship. But they didn't expect, as I mentioned, Holland to "adapt" to their ways. They made the decision to leave and find a place where they could raise their children in their custom - and have freedom of worship, which they could not have in England. Thus they sailed for a new life in a new land...in 1620.

37 posted on 09/23/2007 6:01:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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I'm speechless.

Sorry, but I think Peter King was on to something...

38 posted on 09/23/2007 6:06:23 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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I would laugh but I think they are serious -— frightening. Perhaps we should take up a collection to buy the ones who don’t want to adapt that great T-shirt that they have over on Hotair that says in Arabic “I will not submit”.
39 posted on 09/23/2007 6:07:49 PM PDT by Leapofaith (I stole this tagline from Radix --- don't tell)
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To: Cyropaedia

Agreed!


40 posted on 09/23/2007 6:08:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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Now the WRR however advises using the word allochtoon as little as possible.

They propose substituting the words "we surrender".

41 posted on 09/23/2007 6:13:05 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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"They're dead Jim..."

42 posted on 09/23/2007 6:14:28 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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Bad news. Islam will negate democratic institutions and within 25 years, IMO.


43 posted on 09/23/2007 6:26:01 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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Are they ashamed to be Dutch????

Precisely.

Any enemy of Western culture is a friend of theirs.

44 posted on 09/23/2007 6:29:30 PM PDT by Brakeman (Self delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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To: BenLurkin
Why the heck don’t they stand up for themselves?

I think all the smart ones have left already.

The WRR also considers the Dutch must be prepared to adapt their standards to that of newcomers, for example in the area of religion and sexuality.

So, this WRR wants the Dutch to give up their liberal sexual policies and any remaining Christian vestiges. Socialism is pure evil.

45 posted on 09/23/2007 6:35:30 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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The problem is that the Muslims will not concede anything and will not adapt. Attempt to adapt to Islam and your culture will be destroyed within two generations.


46 posted on 09/23/2007 6:50:43 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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Government Advisors: Dutch Should Adapt to Muslims

Sort of like Marie Antoinette telling the little people to eat cake. I wonder what the Dutch can come up with that equals the guillotine. It's coming. When Europe boils over, it happens fast.

47 posted on 09/23/2007 6:51:25 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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Attempt to adapt to Islam and your culture will be destroyed within two generations.

500 years of western thought DOWN THE TUBES. At some point the Mullahs would probably bury advanced technology as well.

48 posted on 09/23/2007 6:52:48 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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You know, Europe’s history is chock full of these funny little episodes in which sophistry by the self styled elite holds sway for a while, followed by periods of ‘insanity’ in which the general population engages in ‘purges’. In other words, bend a piece of certain types of plastic, and you’ll be amazed at how far it bends. But at some point, a sudden fracture occurs that surprises the onlooker.


49 posted on 09/23/2007 7:08:29 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: BenLurkin
The Scientific Council for Government Policy (WRR)

When the muzzie bureaucrats call the shots, joe public becomes sharia-ized.

50 posted on 09/23/2007 7:13:06 PM PDT by x_plus_one (A nation ashamed of its past will fear its future.)
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