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Ron Paul = Hillary on the War; Rudy Giuliani = Hillary on abortion, etc
Vanity | Jim Robinson

Posted on 09/23/2007 10:53:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Ron Paul = Hillary on the War; Rudy Giuliani = Hillary on abortion, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens, etc. Neither are conservative. Neither are Republican. I would no more vote for the "Republican antiwar candidate" Ron Paul or the "Republican pro-choice candidate" Rudy Giuliani than I would the treasonous butcher Hillary Klintoon.

JMHO.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: elections; hillary; paul; paulrudybanned; rudy
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To: Jim Robinson

Have seen first hand L Ron Paul Paulestianians with signs and their anti war rants.

Also signs and material that 9/11 was an inside job and planes into the WTC were by remote control.

Talked first hand with them and just like talking to the
Code Pinkos

The Paulestianians on FR try to suck Conservatives into their cult and will make the election of a Democrat possible


41 posted on 09/24/2007 12:47:54 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: de meanr
> ...But that's why we have a strong gun lobby. To try to influence the government on these border issues. The problem we have right now is that local government (think Giuliani) has placed futher restrictions on gun ownership rights. To me, gun rights are federal, and the States should have no influence.

Agreed. One picky point: Rights are God-given; the government can only guarantee those rights, it cannot grant them, nor rescind them. (Or conversely, if it does grant them, it can also take them away.) The role of the federal government in that regard is to guarantee, uniformly across all States, the God-given rights described in the Bill of Rights (explicitly and implicitly).

> Generally, this is one of the few things the federal government should be doing (along with immigration, etc) and not leave to the States. As soon as the federal government abdicates its authority, and allows States to limit our federal rights, we are screwed.

Agreed. The only stuff the Fed Gov should involve itself with are those things that affect all States (such as invasions, illegal immigration (but I repeat myself), roads, currency) and the guaranteeing of our God-given rights.

The idea that different States can arbitrarily limit 2nd Amendment rights drives me up a freakin' wall. It's exactly wrong; precisely backwards.

42 posted on 09/24/2007 12:50:52 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Dragonspirit
In the general, if my choices are Hillary or Rudy, I will vote for Rudy. EVERY Republican is better than ANY Democrat in this election.
That's not necessarily true.
If by some cosmic joke the nominees were Joe Biden and Ron Paul, I would have to vote for Joe Biden.
Any other match up would result in a Republican vote from me, though.
 
43 posted on 09/24/2007 1:12:07 AM PDT by counterpunch (Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.)
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To: dayglored

Amen, brother.


44 posted on 09/24/2007 1:12:33 AM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty - Thompson/Tancredo '08)
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To: Jim Robinson

What is your take on the almost identical positions and level of responsibility of Senators McCain and Thompson in giving life to McCain/Feinold?


45 posted on 09/24/2007 3:59:38 AM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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To: elizabetty

Big mistake.


46 posted on 09/24/2007 4:01:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Assuming we get some originalists on the bench, overturn Roe vs Wade, and stop legislating from the judiciary, I’m all for it.

Who do you consider as a candidate that would make that a safe assumption?

47 posted on 09/24/2007 4:11:08 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Won’t be Giuliani. Or Romney. McCaine is out. Paul is a nutcase who can’t be trusted with national security. Of the remaining candidates, I’ll go with Thompson or Hunter.


48 posted on 09/24/2007 4:18:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Okay. Where can I find infomation on thier views on constitutional issues and interpretation?


49 posted on 09/24/2007 4:24:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Buffalo Head
Please don’t lower yourself to the level of the kooks on your forum.
You should have tagged that with "JMHO." I don't understand why you think such a remark to any FReeper is your prerogative.
50 posted on 09/24/2007 4:27:32 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: tacticalogic

I don’t know, but from everything I’ve read about Thompson and Hunter they are both pro-life, pro-gun, pro-defense conservatives. Additionally, Thompson seems to be a federalist. I would trust either with appointing judges. Would never trust Giuliani or Romney. Ron Paul is a nutcase.


51 posted on 09/24/2007 5:48:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ron Paul never voted for the war, Hilliary did. Ron Paul is not a liberal democrat.
52 posted on 09/24/2007 5:50:40 AM PDT by jackieaxe (I'm voting for Ron Paul in spite of the Neocon/Big Government Republican propaganda!)
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To: jackieaxe

Ron Paul bills himself as “the antiwar Republican.” Hillary Clinton is furiously backpedalling from her war vote. No thanks. You can have them both.


53 posted on 09/24/2007 6:01:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Somehow that doesn’t seem like much to be making assumptions on.


54 posted on 09/24/2007 6:20:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jackieaxe

By the way, someone up thread has already pointed out that Ron Paul is really closer to the moonbat Dennis Kucinich on the war. And that’s true. And all three of them (Hillary, Kucinich and Ron Paul) are in league with the America-hating CodePinkO group and the World Socialist Party’s International Answer.


55 posted on 09/24/2007 6:25:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: tacticalogic

Well, I’m sure a topnotch researcher such as yourself can go out and find the real skinny. Please report back to us with your findings.


56 posted on 09/24/2007 6:27:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Clara Lou
"I don't understand why you think such a remark to any FReeper is your prerogative."

If you don't understand why certain types of comments and posts impart a negative perception of FR in many people's minds, then you might be part of the problem.

If the purpose of Mr. Robinson's forum is to provide a chat room for like-minded people, then no problem.

However, if a dual purpose of the forum is to persuade lurkers and others to our point of view and elect conservative politicians, then we must be more astute politicians ourselves.

57 posted on 09/24/2007 6:30:14 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ron Paul is a nutcase, he’s a cross between Ross Perot, Ralph Nader and Kucinich. He’s probably WORSE on the war than Hitlery.

Hitlery is NOT a pacifist, she is more of a Stalinist. She would love to be able to claim victory in a war.


58 posted on 09/24/2007 6:30:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Buffalo Head

The forum IS for like minded conservative activists. FR is NOT a liberal debating society nor a chat room. Abortionists, liberals, RINOs, and antiwar activists can kiss my ass. Don’t need them. Don’t want them.


59 posted on 09/24/2007 6:37:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: dayglored

‘Do you really think any Democrats will vote for Paul because of his anti-war stance,’

Every leftwing zealot will, because they are appalled Hillary Clinton voted for the war in the first place.

And given she finally denounced the moveon.org ad yesterday on the Sunday talk shows, they are even more angry with her.


60 posted on 09/24/2007 6:41:52 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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