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Fla. Student's Allergy Leads To Peanut Butter Ban
WKMG TV NEWS ^ | 9-25-2007

Posted on 09/25/2007 7:15:42 AM PDT by Cagey

ST. JOHNS COUNTY, Fla. -- Some young St. Johns County students are no longer allowed to bring a popular lunchtime food to school. Peanut butter has been banned.

A kindergarten student at Ocean Palms Elementary in Ponte Vedra has a peanut allergy that has forced the student's classroom to become a peanut-free zone, WJXT-TV reported.

Not all parents are happy with the changes in other students' diets and the inconvenience caused by the peanut ban.

Tracey Torres's son is 5 years old. She said one of his favorite lunchtime sandwiches is peanut butter and jelly, which is also one of Torres's favorites because it's quick, easy and nutritious.

"That's just a typical thing that a kid brings to school and it's something my son likes. It's quick and easy for me in the morning. To not be able to bring that and have to do something else is a burden on me in the morning," Torres said.

She said the peanut-free classroom has been a burden on her in the morning since his kindergarten class at Ocean Palms went peanut free because another student is allergic to peanuts.

When the peanut allergy issue first came up, school officials tried to separate kids with nuts from kids without by sitting them at a different table in school but the close scrutiny was too much work.

"Too much work … and the students weren't always able to eat lunch," said Ocean Palms Elementary Michael Parrish.

Under the new peanut ban, students area able to eat lunch but just not peanuts.

Torres said she thinks it's unfair for kids to suffer because of one student's allergy.

"The burden should be placed back on the parent of that child, and their only responsibility should be to create an awareness with the other parents and children," Torres said.

However, Parrish said awareness isn't enough when dealing with a life-threatening allergy.

The principal said the school is working on a more permanent solution. He said they would probably end up with a peanut-free table in the cafeteria and another table that allows peanuts.


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To: bert

“The student who is unfit for school should be banned.”

And his parents should be relieved of the burden of paying school taxes, right?


51 posted on 09/25/2007 8:23:20 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: massgopguy

Oh that’s ridiculous! I’m mildly sensitive to latex and other than being aware and avoiding things that have it, to prevent the skin irritation, the only “step” I’ve needed to take was have a note put on my chart requesting non-latex exam gloves at the gyno. Beyond that, I suck it up and deal, and remember for next time.


52 posted on 09/25/2007 8:23:40 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (I am so proud of what we were...)
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To: MrB

So true...and now I have a new tagline! Thanks!


53 posted on 09/25/2007 8:23:54 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (Liberalism: Someone craps their pants, and we all have to wear diapers....)
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To: Cagey

This is just stupid. There is no reason in hell why all students should have to change their diet just because of one kid. I say sue the parent and she will change her mind in a hurry.

What the devil will she try next to get the whole world to ban peanut butter and what happens when the kid is outside of the school area on some park playing with other kids who could very well have eaten peanut butter or peanut butter cookies, do those kids now have to wear signs I eat peanut butter?


54 posted on 09/25/2007 8:25:48 AM PDT by Shots
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To: swain_forkbeard

we need off campus schools for those who are unfit to assimilate. They will be out of harms way.


55 posted on 09/25/2007 8:25:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Cagey
THIS IS WRONG. The school is opening themselves up to an ADA lawsuit if they even suggest that they can accommodate a child with severe peanut allergies. I’m sorry for the parents and the child, but how in the world can they expect an entire school population to avoid peanuts to a safe enough degree for this child? Homeschooling or a peanut free private school perhaps is the only realistic option.
56 posted on 09/25/2007 8:25:57 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: TomServo
This happened at my daughter's school, when she attended a private school. The principal had a separate table for allergic kid(s).

However, my guess is, this separate table deal won't fly in a public school..."the poor child's self-esteem will be hurt if he or she is forced to sit at a separate table".

57 posted on 09/25/2007 8:26:41 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (Liberalism: Someone craps their pants, and we all have to wear diapers....)
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To: 3AngelaD

“When did kids begin to be allergic to peanut butter? Apparently there is some kind of pandemic peanut butter allergy going around. And it has condemned us to pretzels on airplanes. Yet when I was a child in elementary school and high school, I don’t remember ANYONE ever being allergic to peanut butter. Does anyone know of any studies showing what has caused this?”

Good question. My nephew is deathly allergic to peanuts. He was tested at Duke for allergies and his peanut allergy was off the charts. He has to wear a medic alert bracelet and carry an epi pen. My daughter has a couple of kids in her class that are also highly allergic. It does seem a recent phenomenon tough. Something has changed to cause this.


58 posted on 09/25/2007 8:26:54 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: ga medic

How many children have died from the fumes of peanut- oil fueled vehicles? Thousands of corpses line the curbs each morning, yet nothing is said.


59 posted on 09/25/2007 8:27:02 AM PDT by satan
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To: AppyPappy

“Geez, if my kids was deathly allergic to something like that, I would homeschool them.”

Perhaps you should consider bringing in a certified peanut-free English tutor... ;>)


60 posted on 09/25/2007 8:27:45 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (SPAM: best in the can and in sammiches -- not for use on computers.)
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To: ga medic
Since I was one of the class mothers I made sure that child was protected as I would hope any parent would do. However not everyone can afford to buy lunch each day or can afford more then PB&J sandwiches. I also think that tagging children is not the answer. Tasty cakes were one of the few snacks that could come into the class room. I used to have a list of allowed snacks. As I said before the children were way more understanding then their parents were.
61 posted on 09/25/2007 8:28:09 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: ga medic

If a child is so allergic to peanuts that he may die from talking to someone who has recently eaten peanut butter (not saying this is the case here, but it is the case for some children), then they should not be out in public at all.

An allergy of that type of severity can only be controlled by control of your environment, not by your own behavior.

For example, let’s say little Billy is allergic to peanuts to the point that inhaling a minute amount of peanut dust will cause him to have a severe reaction. Little Timmy sits next to him in class. The night before, little Timmy went to a baseball game and got a new hat and a bag of peanuts. Little Timmy wears the new hat to school the next day, and it has peanut dust on it. Little Billy asks to try on the hat and gets peanut dust on himself.

Now, no matter that peanut butter is banned from school due to little Billy’s allergy, he has still come in contact with the deadly allergen.

That is why bans on one source of contamination are counter-productive. It creates a false sense of security.


62 posted on 09/25/2007 8:33:35 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ga medic

My kids were in elementary school 15 years ago. You would have thought I would have been informed by the school if it were an issue. They took P/J almost everyday for lunch.


63 posted on 09/25/2007 8:34:13 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: ga medic

>I don’t know the situation with this particular child, and I am aware that some parents tend to overreact. However, the woman who is whining about having to make her son something other than a peanut butter sandwich,<

If you send Junior to school with a chicken or turkey sandwich, because of the PB&J ban, and he gets Salmonella (and ends up in the emergency room), what then?

Peanut butter is generally safe for a packed lunch because it is resistant to bacteria, unlike meats and mayonnaise.

It makes far more sense to isolate a highly allergic child than it does to panic an entire school.


64 posted on 09/25/2007 8:40:48 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: swain_forkbeard
“The student who is unfit for school should be banned.”

And his parents should be relieved of the burden of paying school taxes, right?

And I also since I send my kids to private school. Yeah right... Good try. Don’t like the menu? Go to a different restaurant. Don’t change the menu.

65 posted on 09/25/2007 8:43:36 AM PDT by Sterlis (My brain is full.....)
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To: ga medic
Hey GA:

I'm allergic enough to avocados to be down for two days with very little ingestion, people used to slip 'em into my salads trying to "prove" it was all in my mind.

I know people so allergic to licorice that they literally leap away from anyone with twizzles in their hand.

Bananas shortened my mother's life when her kidneys wound down.

They tell me that artificial sweetener is bad for you and lots of people are terrified of preservatives in anything...I'm guessing that Tab and white bread are still allowed at school.

Fact is that peanut butter has been around since humans decided they didn't have to eat roots right out of the ground lest the hyenas take it away from them. It's an inexpensive, healthy, enjoyable, noon time meal for 99.999% of humans.

When one member of the larger group has a condition that requires group change - that change should apply to the one and not to the many.
(Ask anyone who still smokes how 'accomodating' society has been.)

Otherwise, good luck in outlawing avocados and bananas, and I'll smuggle my licorice in from mexico if necessary.

66 posted on 09/25/2007 8:43:44 AM PDT by norton
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To: satan

I have no idea what you are talking about. If you are trying to say that the smell or even slight contact with peanuts cannot cause a severe or fatal reaction, you need to do some research.


67 posted on 09/25/2007 8:46:32 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Sterlis

I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say.


68 posted on 09/25/2007 8:51:45 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: 3AngelaD
“Does anyone know of any studies showing what has caused this?”

I suspect it is lawyers and litigation. Peanut allergy is certainly not new. When I was in elementary school there were two kids with PA. Their parents taught them how to cope in a world full of peanuts, and for the most part it worked.

I became aware of it when one kid had a reaction to some home-made cookies (no label, naturally). He survived, but got pretty dramatically ill very very quickly.

The concept of taking care of yourself went out the window when lawyers learned that they can have a heated pool and two Mercedes if they sued school districts.

In the past, when PA people took care of themselves, you never knew because it was never in the news. Now, it makes the news because making a room or school or county peanut-free inconveniences a lot of people who otherwise never need to think about peanuts.

69 posted on 09/25/2007 8:52:32 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Cagey; All

www.peanutallergy.com

www.foodallergy.org

are good sources of info. The message board at peanutallergy is an interesting mix of ban-peanut-from-the-world-for-my-kid and “does anyone know of a good peanut-free cookie?” or “how safe is Wendy’s”.


70 posted on 09/25/2007 10:34:39 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: cyclotic

No family like that, but a few years ago some biddy raises hell at me on a plane flight about the peanuts I’m eating. Seems she was allergic to them. I told her she was not eating them, I was. If the smell sets off your allergies, then get off the plane and go home, ‘cuz I’m certainly not going to give up eating them. Especially after demanding I throw them away.

I took a mouthful, munching happily, and started breathing out a zone of peanut breath plasma around my seat. She survived.


71 posted on 09/25/2007 11:14:04 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Wyatt's Torch

probably too much germ free cleanliness as a little kid. That causes the immune system to go crazy, causing all kinds of allergies


72 posted on 09/25/2007 11:16:18 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: pandoraou812
Had my child been that allergic I would have wanted them to be in the nurse’s office or somewhere far away from kids eating PB&J sandwiches.

Parents don't want to be bothered. They'd rather unleash their Peanut Peter on the daytime babysitting service.

73 posted on 09/25/2007 11:17:55 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Turbopilot

HAhahahaha! Now that is the truth!


74 posted on 09/25/2007 11:24:52 AM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Turbopilot

HAhahahaha! Now that is the truth!


75 posted on 09/25/2007 11:24:58 AM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Cagey
I believe this pandemic started during the Jimmy Carter years.

Good one, lol
76 posted on 09/25/2007 11:28:04 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: pandoraou812

It’s not that the school doesn’t want certain students singled out. It’s that the school’s lawyers don’t want to be sued if one of these students come into contact with a peanut. I’ve heard teachers say the reason all peanuts have to be banned is because the allergic kids will try to swap sandwiches with those who do have pbj.

People with allergies do sometimes seek out the foods they’re allergic too. I remember one girl I dated back in the 70s. Took her out to dinner where she ordered lobster. A few hours later I had to take her to the emergency room. That’s when I found out she was shellfish allergic. I asked why she ordered it when she knew she waa allergic and she said she just loved the taste. That was our last date.


77 posted on 09/25/2007 11:38:20 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul thinks the federal govenment is a bigger threat that Islamic Terrorism.)
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To: 3AngelaD

The adjuvent (used to heighten allergic response) used in most vaccines is derived from peanut oil. So basically your child’s course of vaccines also makes them allergic to peanuts.


78 posted on 09/25/2007 11:38:36 AM PDT by MIDad23
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To: Cagey

79 posted on 09/25/2007 11:47:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: 3AngelaD

When did kids begin to be allergic to peanut butter? Apparently there is some kind of pandemic peanut butter allergy going around. And it has condemned us to pretzels on airplanes. Yet when I was a child in elementary school and high school, I don’t remember ANYONE ever being allergic to peanut butter. Does anyone know of any studies showing what has caused this?”””.....

Good question. Along with Asthma and Autism. I was raised in rural Wisconsin, and I don’t remember anyone with Asthma- child or adult.
Now they claim that One in every 150 children has Autism. I don’t wish to castigate the problems for parents, but where is this coming from? Former drug use by parents who won’t admit to it? A change in the processing of peanuts into peanut butter? Some sort of combination of the peanuts and the margarine used by the parents? God forbid they use real butter like we did!!!
I am tired of the mainstreaming aspect of the austic child being put into the classroom where all it does is disrupt the learning process of the other 149 kids of the group who do not have autism. Where is the fairness in that and what kind of education is your normal child getting which will prepare them for a decent job or college? The school boards love the inclusion of the “learning problems” children. In this area, a regular child gets a budget of about $7000/year, and the “learning problem kids” get a budget of about $25,000 per pupil per year. Doesn’t take a genius to see why the school boards want these kids “included”. It bloats their income and in the long run, it stunts the learning of ALL the kids, IMO.
When we were kids, it took a whole loaf of Wonder bread with peanut butter and jelly to make sandwiches for the 4 of us kids. I don’t know of much else we had for our school lunches. We not only all survived, all 4 of us were self- employed, 3 with employees. I stayed alone doing bookkeping. I can remember the largest jars of peanut butter and strawberry jam on the kitchen counter. Those were the days of the waxed paper sandwich bags. Brown paper bags. Apples, etc. Bought a half-pint of milk from the dispensor in the school for a nickle. No cafeteria.....But we all got an excellent education.
The craziest part is that the little dairy town I grew up in and went to school in was named the best place in USA to live and work this past August by Money Magazine. Middleton, Wisconsin. Blew me away. Town has grown and gotten waaaayyy too yuppified for my tastes, but I couldn’t call it #1 in the country. Homes too expensive and property taxes WAAAAYY too expensive.


80 posted on 09/25/2007 11:53:48 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: massgopguy

There’s MA a kid who may or may not go to his city’s Middle School next year and he has a Latex Allergy. They are gutting the school all all Latex and Plastic”

Good luck with eliminating plastic from a modern school. Aren’t all the chairs, bleachers, etc, made of plastic? No one can use wood anymore. Too expensive, and the environazis will yell. Toilet seats, the TP holders, the paper towel holders. All rulers, barrels on mechanical pencils, protractors. How is this kid going to get thru Math classes which are mandatory without all these tools? Lots of bookcovers are plastic, also.
Like I said- Good Luck.....


81 posted on 09/25/2007 12:00:05 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: DugwayDuke
I asked why she ordered it when she knew she was allergic and she said she just loved the taste. That was our last date.

Smart move. I love lobster & wouldn't mind if my husband was allergic. If he was I could have it all.

Our school doesn't ban it, just tags the child who brings PB&J to school. Then they must sit at the PB&J table.

82 posted on 09/25/2007 12:00:19 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: swain_forkbeard

And his parents should be relieved of the burden of paying school taxes, right?”

I have paid school taxes on as many as 3 properties at once ( paying for my dad when he was retired) which as of now add up to 69 years of paying property taxes which include school taxes.
I had no children. I had no impact on the use of the schools.
Where do I apply for my refund? Living on a very fixed income today, that refund would be a Godsend.


83 posted on 09/25/2007 12:05:22 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: pandoraou812

What about the child that brings the cookie that has peanut oil in it.

Segregating the kids won’t help if little Susie can die just by smelling a peanut. They can turn up anywhere.


84 posted on 09/25/2007 12:11:27 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ridesthemiles
I have adult children & a 7 yr old child. In this neighborhood when my older children were growing up we sent them out to play with little fear. People weren't using stuff like Lawn DR etc on lawns or spraying for bugs. The older children didn't have asthma or seem to get as sick as my youngest does. I have watched new families move in & beautiful green lawns appear. At my child's bus stop 5 out of 11 children that I know personally have asthma, my own daughter included. I don't know why. But IMO those lawns have something to do with it.
85 posted on 09/25/2007 12:13:55 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: pandoraou812

Well, your school seems smarter than some. I have encountered some parents that would not be satisfied with that. I met one women who had a child allergic to wood smoke. She wanted the entire county to ban wood fire places.


86 posted on 09/25/2007 12:14:40 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul thinks the federal govenment is a bigger threat that Islamic Terrorism.)
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To: Cagey

Ponte Vedra in Jacksonville is a pretty rich community. I am surprised they even eat peanut butter. /sarc.


87 posted on 09/25/2007 12:19:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Cagey

Home school.


88 posted on 09/25/2007 12:19:51 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AppyPappy

I asked that very question to the school nurse. She didn’t seem too concerned. They can’t check every single thing she said. But still the PB&J sandwiches were taken out of the classroom. If the mother of that child had her way none of the children would have been allowed to bring in snacks or lunch.


89 posted on 09/25/2007 12:20:16 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Cagey

Mister Peanut of Planters, Wilkes-Barre, is somewhat confused that these problems are coming to light after 80 years.


90 posted on 09/25/2007 12:22:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (25 degrees today. Phase state change accomplished.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I don’t know why people are like that. My neighbor uses her indoor fireplace and I smell it. When I use my outside fireplace for the cool nights by the pool she calls the police. I actually have a letter that says I can use my outside fireplace to show to the police. Seems its alright for her in her mind but its not alright for me. Go figure...


91 posted on 09/25/2007 12:24:39 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: svcw

Out of curiosity, has anyone every heard of a black kid or latino kid with a peanut allergy? I haven’t.


92 posted on 09/25/2007 12:27:01 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: svcw

I knew a 40 year-old man 20 years ago who had a peanut allergy.


93 posted on 09/25/2007 12:28:23 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Cagey

It's peanut butter jelly time!

http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/flash/play/733/
94 posted on 09/25/2007 12:34:21 PM PDT by KenHorse (It may be the only purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others)
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To: ridesthemiles

Sound to me the school would find it cheaper to face a lawsuit than accommodate this one kid and his/her neurotic parent.


95 posted on 09/25/2007 12:43:32 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: ga medic
There are some (not all) who are so allergic to peanuts that the smell or touch of anything with peanuts can cause a life threatening reaction.

Then how the hell do you walk through life? You can't go to a mall because every mall has a Chinese restaurant cooking Kung Pow Chicken. You can't go to a Fair or a amusement park. Or a grocery store for that matter.

Nor do people who complain that their children must eat at a separate table because they brought peanut butter.

Put the kid with the allergy outside. Not the other 99.9%. No sympathy from me, either.

96 posted on 09/25/2007 12:47:18 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: pandoraou812
As I said before the children were way more understanding then their parents were.

Children are trusting and will do anything adults tell them, which is why we can't let Leftist guide their agendas.

97 posted on 09/25/2007 12:53:20 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: DugwayDuke

The reason peanuts have to be banned has nothing to do with students trading sandwiches. It is because the allergy can be so severe that if one child gets peanut butter on the lunch table and wipes it up with a napkin, there is oil left on the table that could be fatal for a child with a severe peanut allergy. Likewise, if a child has peanut oil on their hands, and touches someone who has a peanut allergy it can be absorbed through the skin and cause a reaction. This happened to boy in elementary school with me. He died.

All of the concern is not about children that are over pampered or not smart, it is about an allergy that is so severe that many people die from it each year. Children with peanut allergies are normal kids, that can and should attend school with other children. I can’t believe the number of posters who would rather tell the allergic child they aren’t fit to attend school, than tell their child that they will have to eat another kind of sandwich for lunch. It is very disappointing.


98 posted on 09/25/2007 12:57:26 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: Clock King

If anything goes wrong in your life, I certainly hope that your family and friends are more empathetic than you are.


99 posted on 09/25/2007 1:03:43 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: Cagey
My son is allergic to xanthan gum. It is used as a food thickener. It is in hundreds of products at the grocery store. It is in nearly every single salad dressing on the market. But it is not just sauces and salad dressings. It is also in things like cake mixes and refrigerated doughs.

It was very hard to figure out that xanthan gum was the culprit. I had to write down everything he had eaten before an allergic reaction, including checking ingredient labels. What do Taco Bell taco sauce and Hershey's Chocolate syrup have in common? Xanthan gun. When I finally figured it out, the allergist got some and tested him for it, which confirmed that xanthan was responsible.

At home, it is pretty easy to avoid. We don't buy processed foods, but make our own instead. Eating out is a problem, though.

100 posted on 09/25/2007 1:04:14 PM PDT by knuthom
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