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Miller Beer Ad Agency Has Connections To MoveOn.Org
Beer (& More) In Food ^ | 9-26-2007 | Bob Skilnik

Posted on 09/26/2007 11:26:45 AM PDT by toddlintown

Miller Beer has a connection to MoveOn.org: Most of MoveOn’s commercials are made by experienced operatives at a left-wing advertising firm in Santa Monica, California.

The firm of Zimmerman & Markman occupies a small suite of offices in a four-story building a few blocks from the beach. Bill Zimmerman, the agency’s strategist, has a PhD in psychology and got his start in politics registering black voters in Mississippi in 1962. He worked with Jane Fonda on anti-Vietnam War mobilization and has played a role in drug decriminalization campaigns. Pacy Markman, the agency’s copywriter, had a long career in commercial advertising (he wrote the indelible slogan “Miller Lite: everything you always wanted in a beer, and less”)...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ads; beer; miller; moveon; moveonorg
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To: Albion Wilde

If you want to ding the ad agency for that reason, fine. However, to ding an ad agency’s client because of the ad agency’s other clients is still nonsensical. Maybe the ad agency is good at what they do (no maybes about it actually — look at the left’s propaganda skills).

I’ve shopped at stores that sell some products whose manufacturers support leftist organizations. Doesn’t make me a leftist. Just means that the store thinks my money is as green as everyone else’s. (BTW, those stores are called “grocery stores.”)

PS Ad agencies and ethics? Surely you jest. (It would be the ad agency’s ethics at issue — for example, if they took only leftist clients.)

PPS If you’ve got more on Miller that shows they fit in with those leftscum groups, fine — now we can ding them. Meanwhile, I’m gonna crack a Miller Lite (all American pilsner sucks, and it does have less calories, so I drink it when I don’t want a real beer).


51 posted on 09/26/2007 12:23:22 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Greg F
Thanks...will rerun in Today's Toons 9/28/07.


52 posted on 09/26/2007 12:25:37 PM PDT by pookie18
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To: Nathan Zachary
Well lets see, Miller supports gay orgy parades, they add their label to insults against Christians, support illegal aliens flooding across the border. I think the connection to Move-on is quite clear; The company is run by a leftist moonbat!.

Given those facts, that would be a reason to consider Miller to be leftscum. The fact that they also use an ad agency that has leftist clients might be considered as supporting circumstantial evidence, but of VERY little weight!

53 posted on 09/26/2007 12:26:00 PM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar; Albion Wilde

However, to ding an ad agency’s client because of the ad agency’s other clients is still nonsensical.
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I don’t know. I knew a very bright, very good PR person, ran her own agency, very high level, some extraordinarily effective campaigns. She was the hardest core, most ingrained leftist I’ve ever known. I think looking at the PR and Advertising people behind a company or campaign might be a great way to figure out where they are coming from.


54 posted on 09/26/2007 12:28:31 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: BallyBill
I don't think Jack Daniels will be sponsoring any panty parties. Think again. They're sponsoring parties during the Texas Gay Rodeo.
55 posted on 09/26/2007 12:29:24 PM PDT by Fargo Rock
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To: piytar
"Meanwhile, I’m gonna crack a Miller Lite (all American pilsner sucks, and it does have less calories, so I drink it when I don’t want a real beer)."

Or...

56 posted on 09/26/2007 12:29:31 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: piytar

Counter-example: If I get a ticket, I’m going to get a lawyer who probably has defended rapists, murderers, and other thugs. Does that make me a supporter of rapists, murderers, and thugs? Of course not, it makes me someone who needs a lawyer and whose money is green!


57 posted on 09/26/2007 12:30:04 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Always Right

You beat me to it... I call it horse pea!

Bullfrog


58 posted on 09/26/2007 12:32:05 PM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by Birth, Irish by heritage, hell raiser by choice)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I no longer use my previous handle, which was attached to a previous e-mail address.

I use this nickname exlusively.

H


59 posted on 09/26/2007 12:46:10 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: Phantom Lord; piytar
DRINK COORS!

Whew!!

Thank goodness there are still some enjoyments left.

60 posted on 09/26/2007 12:53:59 PM PDT by evad
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To: Hemorrhage

Been here since BEFORE you ALSO under a differnt name, bub.


61 posted on 09/26/2007 12:56:54 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: toddlintown

I have had my LAST Miller Product!!!!!!!!!!!


62 posted on 09/26/2007 12:57:07 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Earthdweller

giggle


63 posted on 09/26/2007 1:47:44 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Tolsti

My little project I’ve been working on makes even Miller beer taste better. But now I have second thoughts, so I’ll stick to other cheap beers.


64 posted on 09/26/2007 2:50:06 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Hemorrhage

Try some decaf, add more bran to your diet, and ask JimRob to change your login name. That’s what I did. Well, the login part, anyways.


65 posted on 09/26/2007 2:53:45 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

>> Try some decaf, add more bran to your diet,

I’m quite sure I haven’t the foggiest idea what you’re talking about.

>> and ask JimRob to change your login name. That’s what I did. Well, the login part, anyways.

No need. I changed it on my own.

H


66 posted on 09/26/2007 3:00:00 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just don’t drop the beer.


67 posted on 09/26/2007 3:19:00 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: Hemorrhage

Not only are you tense,

but you are dense.

Changing your login with Jimrob, mate

means you keep your original login date.


68 posted on 09/26/2007 3:19:18 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: toddlintown
I hope you include Bud/Coors in there with them they are no better.

Budweiser spokesperson Scott Longfellow explained his company's controversial pro-gay stance: "Well, we were just so fed up with all of the discrimination that 3% of our customers were receiving, and with Miller daring to support another similarly maligned group, we felt it was our duty to get behind a proud people - And coors is no better

69 posted on 09/26/2007 3:27:38 PM PDT by Shots
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To: Kevmo

>> Not only are you tense, but you are dense.

Respectfully - I am neither tense, nor dense. I’m not really sure where you’re getting this “tension” idea from.

>> Changing your login with Jimrob, mate ... means you keep your original login date.

Thanks, Dr. Suess. Still, there’s no need. I’m perfectly contented as things are. I know my original login date, and use it as necessary when someone tries to pull rank rather than actually rebut my arguments.

H


70 posted on 09/26/2007 3:31:35 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: Shots

as confirmation for my allegation towards coors

The City of West Hollywood recently passed a resolution commending the Coors Brewing Company on the advice of its Lesbian and Gay Advisory Council and on 2 June 1197, Christopher Street West, the sponsor of the L.A. L/G Pride Parade, among the world’s largest, is holding a public meeting to see if their organization should lift the ban on Coors products.


71 posted on 09/26/2007 3:32:12 PM PDT by Shots
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To: Jigajog
Sorry to hear they controll Pilsner Urquell, good beer.

Agree. Miller itself of course is awful.

For all, it is good to know the agencies associated with ads. There are a lot of subtle, subliminal messages out there. Anyone seen the AARP ad lately?

72 posted on 09/26/2007 3:55:26 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Ping.


73 posted on 09/27/2007 6:51:32 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: toddlintown

Calling Miller “beer” is an exercise in philosophy.


74 posted on 09/27/2007 6:52:59 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: mnehrling
Miller also has some brands under its tent you may not be aware belong to them including: ... Pilsner Urquell

Hey! Don't get the cart before the horse. Miller doesn't own Pilsner Urquell. SAB-Miller, a multi-national conglomerate that originated in South Africa, owns Pilsner Urquell and Miller.

75 posted on 09/27/2007 7:03:28 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: george76

“Bill Zimmerman, the agency’s strategist... worked with Jane Fonda on anti-Vietnam War mobilization and has played a role in drug decriminalization campaigns...”

These anti America a$$holes never quit do they?


76 posted on 09/27/2007 7:19:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Waiting for the Next H$U to fall!)
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To: Grampa Dave

They will never learn.

These anti America a$$holes never quit do they?


77 posted on 09/27/2007 8:43:33 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: NormsRevenge
Update.
78 posted on 09/27/2007 6:12:19 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: McGruff

>>I stopped drinking Miller Beer in the 1970s. It tasted like nasty then.<<

Miller Genuine Draft is a lot better.


79 posted on 09/28/2007 12:36:22 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: piytar

>>Counter-example: If I get a ticket, I’m going to get a lawyer who probably has defended rapists, murderers, and other thugs. Does that make me a supporter of rapists, murderers, and thugs? Of course not, it makes me someone who needs a lawyer and whose money is green!<<

For that matter, the Last Supper has been parodied in everything from MASH to the 70’s show to the Sopranos. If conservatives boycott all the corporations associated with just those three parodies (not to mention the other 497 parodies) it would be a full time job just keeping up with whom to boycott.


80 posted on 09/28/2007 12:46:09 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB
This discussion reminds me of the groups organizing a boycott of Ford because Ford advertised in a gay magazine. As a capitalist, I want American corporations to sell products and to market in whatever legal fashion helps them do that. Now, this particular method, using the Last Supper keeps me from watching certain episodes and I won't be attending Folsom, nor do I watch the Virgin Mary episode of Southpark (also offensive) but to take that to every corporation that wants to sell these people products is very non-capitalist.

Shamelessly copied from Wikipedia

Popular culture In the 1998 episode "Streaking" of the Fox series That '70s Show, the principal cast members assemble into the poses of the subjects of The Last Supper as they discuss streaking at a campaign rally for President Gerald Ford.

The cover for comedian George Carlin's 2004 book When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops? parodies The Last Supper with Carlin replacing Jesus at the table. Also in 2004, rapper Nas' album cover of Street's Disciple was influenced by the Last Supper.

Also in 2004, an advertisement appeared for the popular HBO series "The Sopranos" depicting twelve of the cast members surrounding the central figure of Tony Soprano posed as in the Last Supper. Though only briefly in the public eye, it generated some controversy at the time. [citation needed]

In 2005, an advertisement for French fashion house Marithé François Girbaud based on Leonardo's painting sparked controversy in Italy. Jesus and the apostles were cast as fashionably dressed females, the only male in the picture being a bare-chested young man sitting on a model's lap. The advertisement was withdrawn after protests by Italian Catholics.[11]

In the 2006 artbook Football Heroes, English cartoonist Beach depicts the 1958 Brazilian World Cup football team in the daVinci tableau, with Pelé as the Jesus figure.[12]

In episode 13 of the anime GetBackers, Kuroudou Akabane explained the meaning of the painting to Ginji Amano when they saw the painting hanging on a wall inside Babylon City.

At the end of an episode of "The Simpsons" in which Homer Simpson goes to heaven, the episode ends with thirteen people at Moe's Tavern. They freeze for a few seconds, and their positions are reminiscent of Leonardo's painting.

In the episode of "Gilmore Girls" titled "The Festival of Living Art," the members of the town participate in the titular festival and physically recreate the painting.

In the 1997 film Con Air starring Nicholas Cage, John Cusack and John Malkovich, a picture of the Last Supper is given to a prisoner with the eyes cut-out. When the picture is put over a letter it reveals a message.

The cover for the 1999 DVD release by heavy metal band Black Sabbath (also titled "The Last Supper") parodies the Da Vinci painting, depicting members of the band in place of four of the apostles.

On The Colbert Report, Stephen Colbert has stated that the set is supposed to be like the last Supper in how everything converges onto the center figure (Jesus/Colbert), as a way of deifying Colbert's ego.

In the South Park episode Fantastic Easter Special, Stan and Kyle found out that Peter, the first pope, is really a rabbit, Peter Rabbit. This is because of a dark colored egg in front of him and the original painting had bunny ears.

On an episode of RAW WWE chairman Vince McMahon had a picture of him added to the painting, during a segment where he claimed he was there during the supper.

In the 1970 Robert Altman film "M*A*S*H", cast members are shown in a pose distinctly mimicking the painting during a scene in a army mess tent in which a dinner is held for a character who intends to commit suicide.

In the Dilbert cartoon episode The Shroud of Wally, Alice takes a photo of Wally's birthday party, where the people appear in very similar positions to the Last Supper. After that, Wally becomes the object of a sort of religion.

In the closing minutes of the controversial 2007 Series Finale of the HBO series "The Sopranos", character Tony Soprano appeared in a scene some viewers would compare to the Da Vinci painting. The more obvious similarities included character Tony Soprano in the middle of the image, illuminated by a light from above. The panels on the back wall also resembled prominent imagery from the Da Vinci painting.

81 posted on 09/28/2007 12:53:36 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: evad

Mr. Coors name is Adolph — can’t be a lefty.


82 posted on 09/28/2007 12:56:43 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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