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Boy with nut allergy banned from school because he is a 'health and safety risk'
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Posted on 09/27/2007 2:22:06 PM PDT by UKrepublican

Boy with nut allergy banned from school because he is a 'health and safety risk'

Like anyone with a nut allergy, George Hall-Lambert had always assumed it was the food that caused the problem – not him.

His new school didn't agree. Concerned that none of the staff was trained to cope if the 11-year-old had an allergic reaction, the headmaster banned him – on health and safety grounds.

George, who was diagnosed with a nut allergy at 18 months, carries an emergency adrenaline injection, known as an EpiPen, and wears a medical tag to alert carers to his condition.

When he began at Howden School in East Yorkshire, his mother informed the comprehensive about the allergy.

A file with medical notes was forwarded from his primary.

If the boy went into severe anaphylactic shock it could render him unconscious and he would need assistance using the EpiPen.

He had been at school for only four days when the head summoned his mother for a meeting.

He told her George must go home as no policies were in place to deal with his condition.

Judith Hall-Lambert, who has three other children, said: "Howden School is saying nobody could take charge of his EpiPen because staff don't know how to use it.

"They won't let him back in school until everything has been sorted out and he is classed as safe.

"If he went back now they say he would be a health and safety risk."

George, who was near the top of his class in his SATs tests, is receiving 15 hours a week tuition at home.

But Mrs Hall-Lambert, 37, of Eastrington, near Goole, added: "George is being discriminated against because he has a nut allergy.

"He is a bright kid and this could set back his education."

She dismissed an offer for him to attend the inclusion unit at the school, as it is predominantly for children with behavioural problems.

"George is well-behaved and there is no reason for him to be in that unit.

"He is entitled to a mainstream education like everyone else," she added.

East Riding of Yorkshire Council said arrangements had been made to send him to school full-time, but his mother had decided not to send him.

"The school is following guidance from the local authority and the Government in ensuring that George can access his entitlement to education in a safe environment."

Head Andrew Williams said staff were working towards an acceptable solution.

"My main concern is to ensure that we meet the health and welfare needs of all students in our care."


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1 posted on 09/27/2007 2:22:11 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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Absurd.


2 posted on 09/27/2007 2:22:46 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican
Absurd.

Absurdity is definitely in fashion these days.

3 posted on 09/27/2007 2:24:03 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (life is like "a bad Saturday Night Live skit that is done in extremely bad taste.")
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To: SheLion; Gabz; Madame Dufarge; mysterio; metesky

nanny state in reverse pinnnnggggg


4 posted on 09/27/2007 2:28:12 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: UKrepublican

Using an Epi-Pen isn’t exactly major surgery! I’m sure the boy knows how to use it. If he can — then the teachers sure should have enough brains to learn how to use it, too.

Also — doesn’t the school have a nurse?


5 posted on 09/27/2007 2:28:59 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: UKrepublican

I work in a public school as a nurse and we have a number of kids with nut allergies. It is a matter of educating staff as well as students.

The kids with allergies are usually well aware and do a great job in monitoring themselves, as for the young ones the staff keeps an extra eye out for them.

If someone wants to buy me a ticket I will fly over there and happily educate the school in how to take care of this child.


6 posted on 09/27/2007 2:30:37 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: UKrepublican

” Absurd. “

As absurd as completely banning all nuts (and nut products and items which may have the remote possibility of having some relation to nuts) from a school campus because one student has an allergy??

As absurd as sueing airlines to force them to stop serving ‘airline peanuts’ because someone who has an allergy *might* want to fly someday??

Since when has the world gone so topsy-turvy that the vast majority must now ‘adjust’ to accomodate the tiniest minority, instead of the other way around??


7 posted on 09/27/2007 2:30:58 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: UKrepublican

My son developed tree nut and dairy allergies very early on. Thankfully, he’s grown out of most of them and we’re awaiting final tests on his allergy to walnuts. That was pretty easy to deal with unlike our next-door neighbor’s son who is allergic to peanuts.

If he even gets a whiff of it in the air he has a reaction. His mom has been very active in working with the school system here in our town to ensure his safety as well as other kids that have similar allergies.

At least our school system worked with us. Now, even with sports, the question is always asked early on if anyone has any food allergies.

We always took a “shock” kit with us wherever we went and he had one at his school, too. It ain’t easy folks. Always worrying about it can add some gray hairs.


8 posted on 09/27/2007 2:31:34 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Send him to the U.S. We will let him in class and not allow peanuts or any peanut byproduct anywhere in the school including PB&J sandwiches.


9 posted on 09/27/2007 2:32:59 PM PDT by Grams A
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To: UKrepublican
I'm sure this has a lot more to do with the LEGAL ramification than MEDICAL isses.

Frankly, I can't hardly blame them with the legal system as screwed up as it is.

This kid winds up a drooling 12 year if he goes into shock. The lawyers will appear like magic.

10 posted on 09/27/2007 2:33:13 PM PDT by Popman
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To: UKrepublican
"He is entitled to a mainstream education like everyone else," she added.

He sounds to me like a nice kid. Just is allergic to nuts. So why should he be subjected to such a mean idea like this?

11 posted on 09/27/2007 2:33:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: UKrepublican

There’s nothing more here than the school is afraid of liability. My kid’s school has procedures in place for this.


12 posted on 09/27/2007 2:33:54 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Uncle Ike

” Absurd. “

As absurd as completely banning all nuts (and nut products and items which may have the remote possibility of having some relation to nuts) from a school campus because one student has an allergy??

As absurd as sueing airlines to force them to stop serving ‘airline peanuts’ because someone who has an allergy *might* want to fly someday??

Since when has the world gone so topsy-turvy that the vast majority must now ‘adjust’ to accomodate the tiniest minority, instead of the other way around??


Yeah, this one IS odd inasmuch as it’s the opposite of what usually happens. Ordinarily, they’d have outlawed nuts everywhere in the county.


13 posted on 09/27/2007 2:34:50 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: UKrepublican

wish I could have thought of that when I went to school

... but then we never heard of nut allergies when I went to school


14 posted on 09/27/2007 2:35:20 PM PDT by sure_fine ( " not one to over kill the thought process " )
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To: Exit148
Nut allergies are very rare. None of the school personnel are physicians.

The school is smart to keep this kid out of the school because the next step will be his mother demanding that peanut butter be banned lest some kid have to administer artificial respiration to him and inadvertantly kill him after eating peanuts.

It's ridiculous to pretend the kid's circumstance is normal and that all harm can be avoided IF other people simply change their behavior, get educated, and avoid eating peanut butter sandwiches.

I have entirely too many of my own allergies and health concerns to go around worrying about the folks with nut allergies anyway. My focus is on banning wheat, barley and rye, and strictly limiting the preparation of white kidney bean extracts ~ and hold the peach skin fuzz while you're at it.

15 posted on 09/27/2007 2:36:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Uncle Ike

LOL

Now thats absurd.

This is a CHILD.

He has EVERY RIGHT to be in school - in fact the law says he should be.


16 posted on 09/27/2007 2:36:29 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican
Interesting. The other day I was reading about a similar case here in the US. In that case the child had a severe allergy to peanuts.

The school that the US child attends has forbidden all of the child’s classmates from bringing lunches containing peanut butter, among other things, to school. So here in the US all the other children, and their parents who must pay for (probably costlier) lunch foods other than peanut butter, must bear the brunt of the allergic child’s malady. In the UK the parents of the allergic child must bear the brunt.

Hmmmm. I am a fairly wealthy middle-aged man; but a childless one as my wife and I did not have children. So I have never been in the position of any of the parents in either situation. But it seems to me that the solution of the British school, while also “unfair” is the more equitable of the two. In either event, regardless of what the school does, someone is going to be very unhappy.

17 posted on 09/27/2007 2:36:52 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: UKrepublican

The school should provide a Home Teacher.


18 posted on 09/27/2007 2:37:15 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: RedCell
It ain’t easy folks. Always worrying about it can add some gray hairs.

I notice now that all kinds of eating establishments and snacks mention that food/objects "might" have come into contact with peanuts. Figure they're just trying to cover their butts instead of providing useful informaton.

You must have a heck of a time determining where it's safe to eat and where it's not.

19 posted on 09/27/2007 2:37:39 PM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: Uncle Ike
BTW, I've put United AL in a bind. I've requested that they ban all wheat products just like they've banned all peanut products.

No answer yet.

We've got MILLIONS of folks with a wheat gluten problem. There are only a few hundred with the peanut problem.

20 posted on 09/27/2007 2:38:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Responsibility2nd
He sounds to me like a nice kid. Just is allergic to nuts.

Aren't we all?

nuts = liberals

21 posted on 09/27/2007 2:40:34 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: muawiyah
Gluten intolerance sucks. Still, it's my responsibility to avoid putting harmful stuff in my own mouth. It makes going to dinner with my colleagues a challenge. When they plan a "pizza" party, I'm essentially screwed. I grab an Atkins shake and color it done.
22 posted on 09/27/2007 2:43:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Grams A

Forcing the student body to stop eating or using nut products is absurd.

Also, if my kid goes to the same school, the s**t hits the fan, because he has a disease which necessitates that he must eat nuts all day.


23 posted on 09/27/2007 2:44:42 PM PDT by GOPologist (When one lowers himself to argue with a fool, then you don't know which one is the fool.)
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To: South40
Nut = educrat

No wonder the kid couldn't escape contsant exposure to those "nuts" in school.

25 posted on 09/27/2007 2:45:43 PM PDT by elk
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To: surely_you_jest
while also “unfair” is the more equitable of the two

I think this is very leftist. It is most appropriate to train the school's staff to react appropriately to an emergency situation, then allow the boy to attend with the understanding that boy's problems are ultimately his own.

Everyone should not be made to suffer for one person's inability to cope any more than the whole of society should be barred the possession of weapons because a very tiny minority of the citizens are dangerous.

The true solution is to kill all lawyers and return to the rule of common sense. Fat chance, I know.

26 posted on 09/27/2007 2:45:50 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: UKrepublican

It’s about time!!!!!!

Reading stories about all the USA schools banning peanut butter because of a single kids allergy is insane.

Glad to see someone has some sense, too bad we have to jump the pond to find it.


27 posted on 09/27/2007 2:45:51 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: muawiyah

There’s an idea. One of our children is allergic to aspirin/ibuprofen. I wonder if we can get aspirin-free flights. heh.

It is really hard for our son to safely participate in sports these days because so many folks think they must slather themselves with sports creams that contain pain killers.


28 posted on 09/27/2007 2:46:08 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Responsibility2nd

>>”The school is following guidance from the local authority and the Government in ensuring that George can access his entitlement to education in a safe environment.”<<

Absolutely chilling.
I count seven socialist buzz words.


29 posted on 09/27/2007 2:46:18 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Uncle Ike

Makes more sense than banning eveyone else’s diet because of ONE kid, like here in US. Here in some schools, you can’t have a peanut butter sandwich if one kid has an allergy.


30 posted on 09/27/2007 2:49:09 PM PDT by packrat35 (PIMP my Senate. They're all a bunch of whores anyway!)
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To: Myrddin
Here's something to think about. If they add "dough conditioner" to a non-gluten containing bread-like product (another horrid imitation) the alpha-amylase in there is going to cock your T-cells in your intestine just waiting for the first little bitty piece of gluten or gluten-like substance to come down your gullet.

It'll make ordinary Celiac feel like a garden party in comparison.

So, watch for those words: "dough conditioner" and "alpha amylase", and, also "extract of white kidney bean".

31 posted on 09/27/2007 2:51:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JoeSixPack1
Glad to see someone has some sense...

I fail to see the sense in this, myself. I think the child and his parents bear the full responsibility of whatever happens as long as the school staff can respond like adults in the unlikely event of an emergency. This condition should have no other impact on the rest of the student body nor on the school. The boy and the family can then decide if those "risks" are something with which they can cope.

It should not be necessary for everyone to take care of everyone else, outside normal limits of ordinary civility.

32 posted on 09/27/2007 2:52:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: UKrepublican

Well, *my* kid is being discriminated against because the school has totally eliminated peanut products from all the classrooms! I think this stuff is going too far BOTH ways!


33 posted on 09/27/2007 2:56:08 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: GingisK

That sounds good in theory, but in the real world of today, is not what will happen. If he gets sick or dies, the parents WILL blame the school and sue them.


34 posted on 09/27/2007 2:58:13 PM PDT by packrat35 (PIMP my Senate. They're all a bunch of whores anyway!)
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To: Exit148; The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; UKrepublican
Also — doesn’t the school have a nurse?

I was wondering about the same thing.

Why does this seem to be such an insurmountable problem?

It would seem to be an easy task for a nurse.

Better than banning peanuts for everyone else.

35 posted on 09/27/2007 2:58:40 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: UKrepublican
Now, if we can get them all banned from airlines so we can have out peanuts back.
36 posted on 09/27/2007 2:59:30 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: UKrepublican

Now, if we can get them all banned from airlines so we can have our peanuts back.


37 posted on 09/27/2007 2:59:47 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: GingisK
The true solution is to kill all lawyers and return to the rule of common sense. Fat chance, I know.

Ah, but you see, I have been a trial lawyer for nearly 35 years. And my wife has been one for over 30. So, as I am sure you can imagine, I am highly unlikely to agree with you on this particular point.

What you interpret as a leftist response is, instead, a realistic one which allows, and compensates, for the vagaries of the contemporary legal system. Which, I will happily concede, frequently yields results which are idiotic.

By the way, and completely off topic, my wife recently acquire a cat (a Maine Coon), which has been named for the man whom your handle honors.

38 posted on 09/27/2007 3:03:30 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: UKrepublican

This is as silly as the school which banned all peanut or peanut butter products because of one kid’s allergy. Just let concerned mother pack little Billy’s lunch for him every day and he takes it to school. If the family can’t afford to pack a lunch, arrangements can be made to help out. Kid’s have been doing this since the very first school. Problem solved wth no fuss to anyone. Why do people make these things so hard?


39 posted on 09/27/2007 3:07:16 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: surely_you_jest
"What you interpret as a leftist response is, instead, a realistic one which allows, and compensates, for the vagaries of the contemporary legal system."

This is also the reason for "zero tolerance" policies and absurd enforcements thereof. It relieves the employee of potential civil liability which the use of discretion might engender.

40 posted on 09/27/2007 3:10:04 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: UKrepublican

No, what’s absurd is when the school bans all nuts, anytime, on the whole campus, because one little darling is allergic. That’s absurb, and it happens on our side of the pond.


41 posted on 09/27/2007 3:11:41 PM PDT by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: joebuck
This is also the reason for "zero tolerance" policies and absurd enforcements thereof. It relieves the employee of potential civil liability which the use of discretion might engender.

Sad. And, in fact, abhorrent. But true.

42 posted on 09/27/2007 3:11:42 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: surely_you_jest

I was thinking that no one had to be unhappy if a little common sense were employed. Do everthing humanly possible to minimize exposure to the allergen and educating people, while neither banning the allergen (which can’t be done anyway) OR the boy (which IS truly absurd).

If you ban the boy it sets a precedence on airlines...after all they serve nuts on planes...

the malls...yup nuts in there too...

grocery stores...ditto...

in fact, he could NEVER come to my state (Georgia) let alone meet and shake Jimmy Carter’s hand...

Conversely, if you ban nuts from schools...that long list above would work in reverse until peanuts are eventually eliminated from existence...

along with wasps/bees...

milk...

shellfish...

well you get the picture.

If ANYTHING should be banned, it should be kneejerk reactions that lead to... *****BANNING*******!!!!!

Sadly I don’t see that conclusion being reached anytime soon though. :(


43 posted on 09/27/2007 3:11:49 PM PDT by tpanther
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To: UKrepublican
Concerned that none of the staff was trained to cope if the 11-year-old had an allergic reaction, the headmaster banned him – on health and safety grounds.

As embarrassing as it is to say, here in L.A. at my childs school, they don't allow Peanut Butter sandwiches because of a kid from the past who had this allergy. So, my child isn't going to have a peanut butter sandwich at school until she gets to 7th grade, at which point she probably won't even want one. This is the world we live in today, and what a damned shame.

44 posted on 09/27/2007 3:13:48 PM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: UKrepublican

All the muzzies need to do is spray the countryside with peanut butter.


45 posted on 09/27/2007 3:15:01 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: sure_fine
but then we never heard of nut allergies when I went to school

I was thinking the same thing. I'm not that old and I went to some fairly large schools when I was growing up. It seems like only the last ten years or so that we suddenly have all these kids who are allergic to nuts. I can't recall any concern over food allergies when I went to public schools during the 1970s and 1980s. nor can I recall anyone ever having an allergic reaction to food in one of my classes.

Now I'm not denying that these allergies exist but suddenly it seems to have become such a crisis that schools are banning PB&J.

46 posted on 09/27/2007 3:27:20 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: pray4liberty
"The school should provide a Home Teacher."

Oh, no. That would stigmatize him and deprive him of the socialization process a public school provides. I do believe the only workable alternative is to build a seperate, special school for each different food allergy. And don't make them ride the small bus, it's humiliating!

47 posted on 09/27/2007 3:32:47 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: Kimmers

When did these nut allergies become as common as they are now?


48 posted on 09/27/2007 3:38:49 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Myrddin

I’ve purchased gluten free pizza for a family member and it’s expensive but they say it’s good.


49 posted on 09/27/2007 3:40:06 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: muawiyah

Nut allergies(including peanuts) used to be rare — or so it seemed. But my husband has severe tree nut and peanut allergies and he is now 80. At the time he thought he was a wierdo having them. He went thru the school system and was able to take care of himself by using his head. No one had to change their behavior. No Epi-Pen then.

And my daughter, now 49, has both peanut and tree nut allergies, —— and fish and shellfish allergies. She too learned real early in life what she should do to avoid a problem. I’m sure the school was full of PB sandwiches and brownies, but she was the one who adjusted. No Epi-Pen there either.


50 posted on 09/27/2007 3:41:30 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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