I've read similar articles but this is the most clear. Why would you buy a car with an effective life of only 100K miles ? (100K miles is expected life of the battery, replacement cost in today's dollars about $8K I'm told).
300,000 miles from a Hummer? I don’t mind a legitimate critique of the Prius but this seems stacked in the opposite direction.
Disclaimer: I wouldn’t buy a prius on a bet, neither would I drive a Hummer.
Must have been posted under a different title but I’ve seen it on FR as well as other places.
This article has been widely discounted.
Ive said this from the beginning.
Anyone who has ever owned a cordless drill knows that the batteries are a problem.
BTW, I am told that you can overcome the problem of Battery “memory” by applying a high amount of amperage at the batteries rated voltage across its terminals of the defective battery.
This apparently will blow away the memory junction in the battery.
Caveat: “Kids... dont try this at home”
Hybrid advocates (leftists and politicians) are ignoring price and economic analysis. The advocates have decided that hybrids are a winning technology worthy of large tax subsidies. Even with the large subsidies, the economic analysis does not make sense for most drivers. The subsidies are inhibiting other more promising ideas such as the low emissions diesel technologies from coming to market. At this time, the price and economic analysis indicate that hybrids are not the solution to energy and environment problems.
> ... Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer ...
Even Rush has had to backtrack on this one.
The article is over the top. Nonetheless ...
Anyone looking for a high mileage vehicle needs to
consider the huckster hybrids with a wary eye.
What cost per mile do they get, the way you drive?
What is the cost per mile over the full useful life?
What hidden subsidies are inflating the claims?
Will you be able to ditch the used-up vehicle and
avoid hazmat fees for disposing of the batts?
(may be no problem today, but what about in 10 yrs)
We considered hybrids and bought a diesel (VW TDI).
Of course, the EPA and blue states have got things
so screwed up you can’t buy a new TDI here now.
This article regurgitates a bunch of urban legends.
The 100k mile canard is handily refuted by many owners who have handily passed that mileage. In fact, the battery is warranted in California for 150k miles.
And $8k to replace the battery? That’s totally false.
Excellent information, thank you.
From March this year.”Search” didn’t find this.
Good to see this out there again, but don’t say “search” didn’t find it.
This is a bad comparison. The forces of the market have done the Hummer in. It is no more.
A better choice would be a Ford F450
The Aveo's 2008 EPA score is 26mpg. 45 to 26 isn't spitting distance, it's very nearly double.
I’m gonna give this article to a lefty at work that drives one.
The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the dead zone around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.
You can check this out on Google Earth. To me it looks like the article is incorrect.
The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles.
= $325,000 -- $25,000 for the car and $300,000 for gas?
The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles.
= $585,000 -- overstated perhaps?
I’m a little scared to send this article to my leftist sister in North Carolina. For starters, if she decides to sell the car, she’d have to carefully take off the “Obama for President” bumper sticker. LOL
But seriously... leftists don’t like to confuse their feelings with facts.
I don't particularly mind people buying hybrids but there are a sub-set of them that get self-righteous about it and we need articles like this to humble them a little.