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N.Y. judge who called man a 'pig' to step down
C News ^ | 10-1-2007 | Samuel Maull

Posted on 10/01/2007 8:11:50 AM PDT by Cagey

NEW YORK - A Family Court judge whose alleged courtroom tirades included calling one man a "pig" and another "dysfunctional" has agreed to step down at the end of the year.

Judge Marian Shelton will finish out her 10-year term and agreed not to seek reappointment. A monitoring agency called the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, said Thursday it would not seek sanctions against her under the deal.

Shelton, 52, appointed in 1998 by then-mayor Rudolph Giuliani, reportedly has offers to star on television in a role similar to that of "Judge Judy" Sheindlin.

The Commission on Judicial Conduct said it had started investigating her courtroom behaviour but stopped when she agreed to leave.

It said Shelton admitted violating court rules in one case involving a woman who called the judge a vulgar name in court on Dec. 10, 2004. Shelton told the woman she was in contempt of court and ordered a court officer to handcuff her.

The judge told her "Shut up," "Shut your mouth" and "Be quiet" and had her put in a holding cell. After several minutes in the cell, the woman said she would apologize if given the chance. She was taken into the courtroom and apologized.

Shelton told her, "You will never enter my courtroom again for any reason," and the contempt charge was purged, the commission said.

Shelton's lawyer, Dean Yuzek, issued a statement noting Shelton's achievements as a judge.

"Judge Shelton is proud of her record as a judge who has handled 40,000 cases against a handful of appellate reversals," Yuzek said. He said Shelton made "a real and useful difference" in the lives of hundreds of people.

Other allegations against Shelton included:

-Calling a litigant "dysfunctional," telling him, "You don't have a home or a job. You don't have an education."

-Telling a Caribbean man before her that he looked "bizarre ... like someone I would not give my pet mouse to," and saying to the man, who had multicoloured bands in his hair, "Take those stupid things out of your hair when you come back into my courtroom."

-Telling a man he wasn't allowed to see his child "because you're a pig."


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1 posted on 10/01/2007 8:11:58 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey
...appointed in 1998 by then-mayor Rudolph Giuliani...

Interesting...

3 posted on 10/01/2007 8:15:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Cagey

Rudolph Giuliani appointed this judge? Hmm, I might need to take another look at Rudy.


4 posted on 10/01/2007 8:15:44 AM PDT by feedback doctor (green is the new red. . .)
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To: JackRyanCIA

Marian is a dame.


5 posted on 10/01/2007 8:16:16 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Cagey

If only the judge had called the litigant a filthy Christian.


6 posted on 10/01/2007 8:18:04 AM PDT by fweingart (Tom Tancredo Will Get The Job Done!)
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To: JackRyanCIA
Wow. This guy needs to be fired now!

Why is that?

7 posted on 10/01/2007 8:18:33 AM PDT by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: Cagey

If name calling is the worst they have on her, she’s a jewel in the NY City justice system.


8 posted on 10/01/2007 8:19:16 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: JackRyanCIA

She is not a guy; it is a girl who apparently will not rule for a show like Judge Judy which based on the article seems right up her lane


9 posted on 10/01/2007 8:19:20 AM PDT by Shots
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To: JackRyanCIA

Fired for what?


10 posted on 10/01/2007 8:20:45 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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A Family Court judge whose alleged courtroom tirades included calling one man a "pig"

"See if you can guess what I am now?"


12 posted on 10/01/2007 8:21:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Shots

will not rule=will now run

Sorry bout that not enough coffee yet


13 posted on 10/01/2007 8:21:33 AM PDT by Shots
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To: JackRyanCIA

First off its a Woman, not a guy..

Secondly, why does she need fired?

Someone screams a vulgarity at you as a judge, you have the right to hold them in contempt... Which she did, I don’t see why this is even an issue.

While her comments to various defendants may not have been polite, I don’t see any of them as illegal or over the top.

Oh well.


14 posted on 10/01/2007 8:22:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Some very strange posts on this thread. I guess there are some people who just cannot grasp the concept of reading the article before opening their yaps.

IOW, I’m with you. Can’t see anything much amiss in what this judge said.


16 posted on 10/01/2007 8:27:52 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: HamiltonJay

Some very strange posts on this thread. I guess there are some people who just cannot grasp the concept of reading the article before opening their yaps.

IOW, I’m with you. Can’t see anything much amiss in what this judge said.


17 posted on 10/01/2007 8:28:01 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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Stop and look closely at the allegations ... remember that she had to deal with the dregs of society, day-in, day-out. That exchange with the woman who called her, a sitting judge, a vulgar name in her courtroom looks positively tame. As to her other comments, while insensitive, we do not know all the testimony that preceeded her pronouncements. Perhaps the man was a pig;, the litigant sure sounds dysfunctional to me and maybe it was high time that the person was so informed. The beads is a toughie but if the dude had a ganga rap sheet a mile long and was there for abandoning his family, perhaps asking him to get out of the Jamacian stoner look was sound advice. Nah, it sounds more like burn-out to me. I’m not sure I could deal with that job for long (family court).


18 posted on 10/01/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: EggsAckley

oops


19 posted on 10/01/2007 8:28:32 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Cagey

Not seeing a problem with this judge based on the anti-contempt incidents in the article. I’d be more interested in her legal judgments.


20 posted on 10/01/2007 8:30:29 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: JackRyanCIA
In a recent interview, Clarence Thomas revealed he was asked by President Bush right before he was nominated if he would “Call them as he see’s them”.

It sounds like this judge has called a few as she “see’s them”. I like that in a judge.

She's been involved in over 40,000 cases and these are the ugliest examples of misbehavior on the bench? I think you have a weak case for her "firing'.

21 posted on 10/01/2007 8:31:20 AM PDT by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: JackRyanCIA
I can’t understand why the liberals are objecting to finding the woman in contempt for calling the judge a vulgar name. That’s generally a common practice.

As to calling the guy a pig, there aren’t enough facts given to determine if that was a proper conclusion. The ‘dysfunctional’ comment seems justified. the comment to the Jamacian doesn’t seem out of line, either.

22 posted on 10/01/2007 8:31:36 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: JackRyanCIA

“this guy” is a woman. Did you read the article?


23 posted on 10/01/2007 8:35:52 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Cagey

Hey, I like this judge.


25 posted on 10/01/2007 8:37:08 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Cagey

I love this Judge! Can’t wait to see her on TV. She makes Judge Judy look like Mr. Rogers.


27 posted on 10/01/2007 8:39:55 AM PDT by montag813
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-Calling a litigant "dysfunctional," telling him, "You don't have a home or a job. You don't have an education."

So what?

29 posted on 10/01/2007 8:41:09 AM PDT by montag813
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To: NonValueAdded

I don’t even blame her for telling the person to return without the hair ornaments. The dignity of the court is a two way street. Why can’t people see that?


30 posted on 10/01/2007 8:46:52 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Cagey
"She's been involved in over 40,000 cases..."

I find this number to be hard to swallow. So she hasn't yet finished off her 10 year appointment, so lets say that she was done with her 10 years, if she had 1 case a day, 250 days a year (can't count weekends or holidays), for 10 years, that is only 2,500 cases. So she'd have to either handle 16 cases a day (1 every 1/2 hour), every day, for ten years without a day off, or have to be 160 years old. I just don't buy it, remember that something like 76% of all numbers are made up off the top of someone's head.

31 posted on 10/01/2007 8:54:45 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss
remember that something like 76% of all numbers are made up off the top of someone's head.

LOL!!!

32 posted on 10/01/2007 8:56:50 AM PDT by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: Cagey

Nothing that she said, at least as cited here, seems out of line or inappropriate.


33 posted on 10/01/2007 9:28:59 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Cagey

Is this a ManBearPig moment?

:)


34 posted on 10/01/2007 9:31:07 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: agere_contra

Me too. Bump


35 posted on 10/01/2007 9:35:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: JackRyanCIA

And how exactly did she not act like one?

A defendent swore at her, and she held them in contempt. Because she called someone a pig? Please.... If that what you think is a judge acting out of line, I question how much time you’ve spent around judges.

I’ve seen judges go on diatribes about the unfairness of mandatory sentences, even cried as they were forced to hand down sentences required by law because they were activist nutjobs.... If these few incidents cited in this article are all the complaints they are against her, then this is sad commentary indeed.

You are not guaranteed to NOT be offended when you stand before a judge to face your sentence.


36 posted on 10/01/2007 10:19:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Calpernia

LOL! I have to start watching South Park.


37 posted on 10/01/2007 1:23:50 PM PDT by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: JackRyanCIA

non-biased? When rendering a judgement? Do you see the complete ignorance of what you are saying???

A judges job is to JUDGE... DISCRIMINATE... or in other words, come to conclusions based on evidence. A judge definately should be biased by the end of a trial when rendering their verdict.

They should not be when a trial starts, but by the time its over they absolutely should be biased one way or another based on the case before them, otherwise they are incompetent boobs. You can’t render a decision where one side is the victor if you have no bias at the end!

A judge damned sure better have a bias by the end of a case, or they can’t do their job.

If you have evidence of this judge acting biased during the trials in question fine, but if you can’t stand that someone got offended and smacked down by a judge at the verdict/ruling stage, then you need help.


39 posted on 10/03/2007 7:50:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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