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Mosque says to avoid Western holidays
National Post ^ | October 3, 2007 | Stewart Bell

Posted on 10/03/2007 6:24:04 AM PDT by Squawk 8888

TORONTO - A Toronto mosque is telling Muslims not to say "Happy Thanksgiving" or invite friends into their homes for turkey dinner on the holiday weekend.

The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque says to "avoid participating" in dinners, parties or greetings on Thanksgiving because it is a kuffaar, or non-Muslim, celebration.

A two-part article on the mosque Web site says Muslims should also "stay completely away" from "Halloween trick-and treat nonsense," Christmas, New Year's, anniversaries, birthdays and Earth Day.

"How can we bring ourselves to congratulate or wish people well for their disobedience to Allah? Thus expressions such as:Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Birthday, Happy New Year, etc, are completely out," it says.

In 2003, the Khalid mosque, which mainly serves the Toronto Somali-Canadian community, apologized for a newsletter that compared wishing someone a Merry Christmas to congratulating a murderer.

At the time, a junior employee was blamed for the slight, but the mosque's Web site has since posted similar edicts covering not only Christmas but also virtually every other Western celebration.

Muslims who participate in the holidays are termed ignorant and hypocritical.

While not all are religious holidays, the Internet site says Muslims are required to be different from non-Muslims "in matters which are representative of them or are characteristic of their identity."

Also banned, it says, are: watching sports or soap operas, walking dogs, family photos, wedding bands, Western hats, mingling and shaking hands with the opposite sex.

"Allah and his messenger have warned us against following or imitating non-Muslims in things which are characteristic of their religion or beliefs. This is more emphasized in the case of their eids [festivals] or occasions, which always hold some religious or ideological non-Islamic meanings, and on which the kuffaar indulge in many evil practices."

The Web site also has a question-and-answer section, which advises that Muslims can join political parties only if they are "able to exert some influence on the direction of the party so that it will take an Islamic direction."

Elsewhere in the Q&A section, it says that, "with strong determination and patience, the world will God-willing be under the Muslims' control."

The mosque is run by a federally registered charity. Rival factions within the Somali Muslim community are fighting in court for control of the charity. The mosque president could not be reached yesterday.


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I think this year I'll have ham instead of turkey.
1 posted on 10/03/2007 6:24:04 AM PDT by Squawk 8888
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To: GMMAC; fanfan

(((.)))


2 posted on 10/03/2007 6:24:32 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Squawk 8888

How do we get them to avoid western COUNTRIES, too?


3 posted on 10/03/2007 6:26:08 AM PDT by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: Squawk 8888
The Imam at Ask the Imam have been saying this for years. They also ridicule the notion of celebrating someone’s birthday.

It is an incompatible lifestyle with the entirety of Western Civilization. We should not surrender our long standing non-violent traditions because the invaders want us to submit to their ways.

4 posted on 10/03/2007 6:26:35 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Squawk 8888
Jesus Loves You. allah Wants You Dead.
5 posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:08 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: Squawk 8888

It was just admitted that Allah hates children and the family unit.


6 posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:38 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Squawk 8888

Ah, the religion of hate marches on. Maybe we should all mail the Mosque a bag of pork rinds. As a sign of shared tolerance of course.


7 posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:53 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Conservative 1st, republican sometime)
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To: Squawk 8888
The Web site also has a question-and-answer section, which advises that Muslims can join political parties only if they are "able to exert some influence on the direction of the party so that it will take an Islamic direction."

So much for the separation of mosque and state. Speaking of which a foreign government funds the construction of mosques to the tune of millions PER structure.

8 posted on 10/03/2007 6:29:02 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Squawk 8888
How about Turkey Cordon Bleu?
9 posted on 10/03/2007 6:29:21 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Squawk 8888
The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque is undoubtedly owned and operated by a gang of apostate hypocrites.

We know that because they've become "Blue Noses", an old American and Canadian "traditional form of a$$ho1e" that Mohammad wouldn't have recognized if he'd been hit in the head with a snowball!

10 posted on 10/03/2007 6:29:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Archon of the East

Mohammed loves children so much he married one.


11 posted on 10/03/2007 6:29:39 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: MortMan
Get rid of the communists and you could deal with Islam appropriately.
12 posted on 10/03/2007 6:30:16 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Squawk 8888

Piss on them.

(Of course, a some Christians get bent out of shape about Halloween too, and a few even badmouth December Christmas celebrations).


13 posted on 10/03/2007 6:31:40 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Squawk 8888

Well, at least they got one right. I don’t think western countries should celebrate “Earth Day” either...


14 posted on 10/03/2007 6:32:17 AM PDT by philled ("CNBC?...You might as well be doing ham radio at that point."-- Dennis Miller)
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To: Squawk 8888

feedback@khalidmosque.com

I’m sure they’d love to hear from us.


15 posted on 10/03/2007 6:32:31 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Conservative 1st, republican sometime)
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To: Squawk 8888

I can’t take these freaks seriously anymore. Islam’s just a clown car with guns.


16 posted on 10/03/2007 6:34:11 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: knighthawk

ping


17 posted on 10/03/2007 6:34:24 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: Squawk 8888
They hate the West.
Why are they here ?
18 posted on 10/03/2007 6:35:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Islam’s just a clown car with guns.

Post of the day! LOLx3

19 posted on 10/03/2007 6:37:13 AM PDT by cj2a (When you're pathetic, but you don't know you're pathetic, that's really pathetic.)
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To: Squawk 8888

didn’t know Thanksgiving was canadian holiday


20 posted on 10/03/2007 6:42:10 AM PDT by sure_fine ( " not one to over kill the thought process " )
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To: sure_fine

It is but it’s celebrated earlier. This coming Monday to be exact.


21 posted on 10/03/2007 6:45:57 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Why are they here ?

unintended consequences of oil $$$

22 posted on 10/03/2007 6:47:14 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: sure_fine

Yep, but we do it sooner (second Monday in October) because our football season ends earlier than yours ;-)


23 posted on 10/03/2007 6:51:04 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Squawk 8888
More guff from the Religion of Tolerance (ROT)
24 posted on 10/03/2007 6:52:30 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: Larry Lucido

I’ve just read, can’t remember where, that some schools are canceling Thanksgiving/Christmas holiday observance because such holidays offend the Muslim students. Unfortunately, it looks as though its ‘piss on us’.


25 posted on 10/03/2007 6:54:43 AM PDT by Hatband
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To: Squawk 8888

Wow. Christmas and other Christian holidays and traditions are disobedience to allah. Well, with liberals such holidays and traditions are, in a lot of places here, disobedience to the state. We can’t speak freely about allah as it will be considered “hate” speech.

Their goals appear similar, only their deity differs.


26 posted on 10/03/2007 6:55:50 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
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To: TigersEye; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Elsewhere in the Q&A section, it says that, “with strong determination and patience, the world will God-willing be under the Muslims’ control.”

Oh p!ss on them . Zero tolerance to Muslims. If they don’t like our customs, tradtions, food & dogs etc let them stay in their own countries. So they think the world will be under Muslim control do they? We need to stop this madness now. I think they plan on just taking our kindess towards them & trying to turn it into our weakness. We seem to cater to their customs & wishes far more then we should be. Adapt Muslims or leave. Dog walking...I am shaking my head again. Do they even own dogs? I thought they hated them...


27 posted on 10/03/2007 6:58:29 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah & Muslims ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Squawk 8888

Why do the Canadians celebrate a U.S. holiday?


28 posted on 10/03/2007 7:00:10 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Squawk 8888

Yeah, avoid those western holidays. The faithful might be contaminated by actually having a good time.


29 posted on 10/03/2007 7:05:10 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Squawk 8888
A two-part article on the mosque Web site says Muslims should also "stay completely away" from "Halloween trick-and treat nonsense," Christmas, New Year's, anniversaries, birthdays and Earth Day

Ok, some of these I understand.

Halloween is not one of their holidays, in fact it was a religious holy day along with Nov. 1st.

Christmas, again not a holy day for them per se, even though it celebrates Christ's birth,

New Year's, again other religions etc. have their own calenders and celebrations too.

General anniversaries and birthdays? That is a bit much.

The best one though is for the liberals,

and Earth Day

Now that one should set off some bells and whistles for the libs!

30 posted on 10/03/2007 7:06:02 AM PDT by EBH
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To: Dixie Yooper

They don’t.

http://twilightbridge.com/hobbies/festivals/thanksgiving/canada/


31 posted on 10/03/2007 7:07:14 AM PDT by EBH
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To: Squawk 8888
how 'bout Muslims not participating on Earth. Don't go away mad, just ...... go away.

oh, and peace be unto your goat.

32 posted on 10/03/2007 7:12:20 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Squawk 8888
Why do they ask us to be tolerant of everything muslim and not discriminate against them - but it's fair game for them to openly tell us that all of the things that we believe in just don't matter?

It seems like our government, schools and a lot of Americans just fall in line and obey whatever this backward religion demands of us?

33 posted on 10/03/2007 7:13:27 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: xp38; Squawk 8888

do we need to send them a calender?


34 posted on 10/03/2007 7:20:16 AM PDT by sure_fine ( " not one to over kill the thought process " )
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To: EBH
Read the whole article, it’s for giving thanks for the same things we do, and celebrated with the same food. The article claims that our Thanksgiving is for remembering the Pilgrims, which is not the case at all. If the Canadians ever denounce God as the one they are giving thanks to, then we will have different holidays.
35 posted on 10/03/2007 7:23:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: sure_fine

No, we need to send them back from wence the come!


36 posted on 10/03/2007 7:23:08 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They are here to enjoy our liberties, our freedoms, our economy and chance to make a good living, our ample water supplies, ample food supplies, and our boobie bars.


37 posted on 10/03/2007 7:30:38 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Squawk 8888

doesnt bother me any...I ignore their holidays


38 posted on 10/03/2007 7:32:15 AM PDT by donnab (Saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

To subjugate the infidels and enlarge the Caliphate.


39 posted on 10/03/2007 7:55:04 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: DooDahhhh

Ramadan added to school’s holidays
chicagotribune ^ | 10/03/07 | Jo Napolitano

Posted on 10/03/2007 11:03:06 AM EDT by TornadoAlley3

Dozens turn out in Oak Lawn to hear debate over religion: Dozens of parents said at an Oak Lawn school board meeting Tuesday night that while they’re happy to have a student body of varying religions, they want to keep celebrating what they say are traditional American holidays and customs. That doesn’t mean they aren’t open to observing other religions’ holidays, the parents told the Ridgeland School District 122 board, which was looking at its policies concerning religious teachings and observances. At issue is whether Christian holidays, such as Christmas, should be celebrated now that Muslim children make up about 30 percent of district pupils. After meeting for 2 1/2 hours in a closed session, board members decided to keep the district’s Christmas and Halloween parties and add a Ramadan celebration.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1905894/posts


40 posted on 10/03/2007 8:20:46 AM PDT by sure_fine ( " not one to over kill the thought process " )
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Eric. With all due respects... we are at war.

Now look at what you asked again.

They have told you hundreds of times what their intentions are - have you been listening?

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

41 posted on 10/03/2007 8:33:12 AM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: EBH

The link you posted says they do at the end of harvest just sooner so how can you say they don’t celebrate thanksgiving?


42 posted on 10/03/2007 8:35:48 AM PDT by Shots
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To: expatguy

I’m watching and listening.


43 posted on 10/03/2007 8:36:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Squawk 8888

Just any old thing to avoid assimilation. These guys are Muslim separatists.


44 posted on 10/03/2007 8:44:19 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Amazing how the left (aclu, dems, media) and these bastards are cozy-simpattico. They both are actively working to eliminate Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, and anything related to Christianity.
Looks like this year I double my spending for holiday things!
Nuts to the head-chopping, pig-hating bastards!


45 posted on 10/03/2007 8:49:28 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
So have I - and I think it is time for me to bid farewell.

I joined FR over 6 years ago thinking I could make a change - I thought I could speak out and possibly forewarn my fellow countrymen about the dangers posed by Islamic totalitarianism. I thought with 20 years under my belt that I knew what the hell I was talking about - but in the end I've failed. Now days I feel like I'm simply pissing in the wind.

46 posted on 10/03/2007 8:50:14 AM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: Shots

You misunderstood me. They don’t celebrate the same Thanksgiving Day as we do in the US. Thanksgiving...yes, but not OUR US Thanksgiving Day. Similiar but not quite the same. Sorry if I confused you.


47 posted on 10/03/2007 9:16:44 AM PDT by EBH
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To: Squawk 8888; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; ...

48 posted on 10/03/2007 9:41:33 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: expatguy

Hang in there...


49 posted on 10/03/2007 10:11:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: EBH

No I understood you alright my point was the only difference is we celebrate it on a different day yet the reason is the same basically.

After their first harvest, the colonists of the Plymouth Plantation held a celebration of food and feasting in the fall of 1621. Indian chiefs Massassoit, Squanto and Samoset joined in the celebration with ninety of their men in the three-day event.


50 posted on 10/03/2007 2:18:54 PM PDT by Shots
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