Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll 10/8 Giuliani 25% Thompson 23% Romney 14% McCain 9%

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday Rudy Giuliani back on top in the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination. Twenty-five percent (25%) of Likely Primary Voters say they will vote for the former Mayor of New York City while 23% support Fred Thompson. Mitt Romney is the top choice for 14% while John McCain slipped back into single digits at 9%. Mike Huckabee earns the vote from 6% (see recent daily numbers).

Polling over the past three weeks has shown a clear decline in support for Thompson, but it’s not clear that Fred is fizzling. As noted last week, the GOP race is getting murkier.

A recent commentary by Douglas Schoen helps explain why Rasmussen Reports shows a closer race for the nomination than some other polls that focus on interviews with all adults. Dick Morris also touches on this subject in a recent column.

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Clinton attracts 42% support followed by Barack Obama at 26%. John Edwards is at 12% and Bill Richardson is a distant fourth with 4% support from Likely Democratic Primary Voters (see recent daily numbers). Obama’s support steadily declined from April through August, stabilized in September, and may have begun to turnaround this month. Clinton remains the frontrunner but the former First Lady’s nomination is not inevitable.

"stupidity"

Is the invective necessary? Will that help your cause, or exacerbate an already bad situation?

The GOP was able to form majorities prior to Reagan. Eisenhower and Nixon are two good examples.

Granted, they were never able to put together a congressional majority between Hoover and Clinton...but much of that was due to "blue dog" dems...who were mostly social conservatives...refusing to join the GOP, until Reagan.

The point I am making is that social conservatives are NOT party loyalists. They can easily vote for either party, depending on the platform. They vote the issues near and dear to their heart. And, the GOP is capable of building a winning coalition without social conservatives.

“Liberalism is about to overtake the GOP with your help if you put Giuliani in office. That means NO conservative President for eight years. And, no chance of Republicans retaking Congress for, likely, a decade.”
Response to Ol’Sparky::
First, I do not support Giuliani but I will concede that if he gets the nomination I will vote for him. Second, Do you honestly believe that after a decade of radical leftest have 100% power in the government conservatism will ever recover? You did not address my points about the following
1. The fairness Doctrine
2. The leftest judges who will be placed around the country to push forward the leftest agenda from the bench.
3. Illegal Mexicans getting the vote.
4. A leftest Democrat being in charge of the next USSC appointees. 5. Felons getting the vote 6. Democrats using our tax money to fund future voters with entitlement programs. If the LEFTEST Democrats, i.e. ALL OF THEM, gain power they have one agenda:::TO ASSURE THEY NEVER LOSE POWER AGAIN! I understand your frustration with the RINOs, they make me sick. However I repeat...It is mind spinning to me that you think allowing criminal Democrats to gain power will help our cause. It is my opinion that Democrats in power will simply eradicate (symbolically) from the public dialog. In short they will use illegals, felons and judges to drive us out of having ANY say in Americas next generation.

I have included your name in a personal notebook I keep of
Childish “revenge” Freepers who are as dangerous and harmful to this Country as any ignorant Democrat.
No need to respond to me again. I know a brick wall when I see one.
With “friends” like you who needs Liberals?
It saddens me that my son serves his country for the likes of Hillary and the Likes of GOP voters who would see her destroy America so they could stand on FALSE PRIDE and QUICKSAND PRINCIPLES! You keep standing on that quicksand. And you can feel real good when Christian Conservatives are eradicated from the public dialog all together
(which is the AGENDA of the left) You told me all the reasons you were angry (like a child) about Guilanni but you did not address ONE point I made about the disaster Democrats in power would prove to be for America. I am angry it is difficult for me to respond without getting nasty. Hence, I'll close.

Why on earth would you assume Giuliani will do anything to stop illegal immigration when he is the ONLY Republican to have held office that filed lawsuits protecting them with sanctuary laws?

Why would you assume he would nominate conservative judges when he nominated liberal judges by an 8-1 margin in New York, has praised Ruth Bader Ginsberg and has tried to redefine what a strict constructionalist is by saying one could uphold Roe?

Even Reagan gave us Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy when dealing with a Democratic Congress. Do you really believe Giuliani, who will be dealing with a shrinking Republican minority in the Senate, is going to fight Democrats for conservative judges that he doesn't even want to nominate?

“Revenge” seems your forte - hence the list.

Me? I don’t see the need to vote for a Grand New Party if the Grand Old Party decides Liberalism is the wave of the future. That’s not revenge, that’s refusing to aid and abet a Liberal coup of the GOP.

If Rudy911 wins the GOP nod, then the war is pointless anymore, because the terrorists have won. The terrorists will have succeeded in turning one half of the body politic in this country into a strictly anti-terrorism party with no resemblance to the principles of its expressed platform. Fear will be the only driving factor of the entire party, and I will have no part of it. At that point, the war really is over, and we have lost - regardless of how many battles we can keep fighting for another Presidential term. They will have altered our way of life so drastically that fear of terrorism will be the expressed driving force behind every move we make as voters and as politicians. They might as well celebrate the Great Satan’s defeat on the streets of Damascus at that point, because they’ve won and we’ve lost, period. Their way of living will remain unaltered despite our best efforts, and our way of living will be so drastically altered as to bear no resemblance to the Shining City on a Hill.

Before 9/11, Rudy911 was a joke no Republican would ever take seriously. Have the terrorist really won so resounding a victory that he could be crowned king based on his mere presence in NYC during the attacks? Have they so altered the GOP that the traditional coalition now means absolutely nothing anymore, and only war matters - only war and nothing else?

I'll have no part of a Grand New Party, none. I will not help terrorist change the party and the country into a body that gives them exactly what they seek: a full compromise of our values for the World to see, and the undivided spotlight to prove that they have changed our culture and our way of life forever.

I'll not surrender my values to terrorism, even if the Democrats win one damn election because I won't give the terrorists what they want - a sellout of my values and principles at the end of a sword. The alternative is that the terrorists win the war, though Rudy911 fights some more battles, and the Liberals win the party and the country for generations to come.

No thanks, I'll keep fighting on as many fronts as needed.

Ol'Sparky says: "Why would you assume he would nominate conservative judges when he nominated liberal judges by an 8-1 margin in New York, has praised Ruth Bader Ginsberg and has tried to redefine what a strict constructionalist is by saying one could uphold Roe?" Nav_mom responds: WOW what a genus you are...you don't want to take the CHANCE that some RINO may appoint a liberal judge so your plan is to get Hillary elected and ASSURE we get a leftest pro abortion USSC judge!~eye-roll You’re right we need Hillary
We need over 12 million illegals allowed to gain the vote (& more tax funded services) We do need the fairness Doctrine We do need Felons to have the vote. We do need more taxes. We do need 100% criminals like William Jefferson, Sandy Berger, John Murtha & John Kerry in prominent power positions. We do need more America bashing schools that teach the art of masturbation instead of math. We do need Gay marriage to become legal. We do need abortion on demand and NO age limit on the girls receiving them (without parental consent) We do need more filth on cable TV ~ My God I've been blind! Hillary Clinton as president will enhance my Christian values, promote traditional Families and take care of our open borders. Good Plan!!! Instead of getting at least 50 to 60% of what we want lets cripple America with Hillary and get ZERO % of our agenda!

WOW what a genus you are...you don’t want to take the CHANCE that some RINO may appoint a liberal judge so your plan is to get Hillary elected and ASSURE we get a leftest pro abortion USSC judge!~eye-roll You’re right we need Hillary
We need over 12 million illegals allowed to gain the vote (& more tax funded services) We do need the fairness Doctrine We do need Felons to have the vote. We do need more taxes. We do need 100% criminals like William Jefferson, Sandy Berger, John Murtha & John Kerry in prominent power positions. We do need more America bashing schools that teach the art of masturbation instead of math. We do need Gay marriage to become legal. We do need abortion on demand and NO age limit on the girls receiving them (without parental consent) We do need more filth on cable TV ~ My God I’ve been blind! Hillary Clinton as president will enhance my Christian values, promote traditional Families and take care of our open borders. Good Plan!!! Instead of getting at least 50 to 60% of what we want lets cripple America with Hillary and get ZERO % of our agenda!

Good grief. Giuiliani if FAR more likely than Hillary to provide amnesty for illegal. Republicans would at least try and stop Hillary if she was pushing for amnesty while most would be working with Giuliani to do so.

Giuliani was FILING LAWSUITS on behalf of illegals in New York and did nothing but coddle them. What don't you understand about that? He criticized Bill Clinton signing immigration laws that were too tough. Giuliani with the last couple of months has been discussing a legal path to citizenship illegals.

If he was running as a Democrat, you'd be telling us how liberal he is. But, because he is running as a Republican, you want to fool yourself into thinking he somehow isn't.

Conservatism isn't advanced by electing liberals of either party and it is advanced for more by electing liberal Republicans.

And, Hillary and Giuliani will give us the same judges. But, if Giuliani is elected, it will be eight years before a conservative could assume office and starting nominating conservative ones.

“oh, and that might be President Rumpranger to you next year”

I seriously doubt that also. If Mayor Guiliani is the GOP nominee, I have no doubt that a quarter - but not less than 1/5 - of the party’s faithful (AKA the Morale Conservatives) will either not vote or vote third party. So, unless Guiliani can appeal to independents or crossover Dems, he can’t beat Senator Clinton because she will hold the Dem faithful and will get the minority votes. Senator Clinton will easily beat Mayor Guiliani.

Revisting the issue of Governor Huckabee, he wouldn’t join a Guiliani ticket. He may not run as an independent, but I’m pretty certain he wouldn’t sell out and ally himself directly with Guiliani. I don’t think Representative Hunter will either. However, although I’m only luke warm in regards to Senator Thompson, I can see Governor Huckabee or Representative Hunter being his VP. I’m not sure he would pick either of them.

In summary - If Mayor Guiliani is pitted against Senator Clinton then the next POTUS will be Hillary Clinton.

BTW - Once a candidate, no matter how much I may personnally loath them, is elected to office - they will receive the appropriate respect due to that office from me. I would have no problem saying President Guiliani or President H. Clinton, although I would rather it be someone else. I’m a veteran and still a member of the military reserves....I learned a long time ago that I salute the rank/office/position not the person holding it. However, the person holding it will be treated with respect by me, even when I disagree with them.

“Watch him appeal to independents, centrists, conservatives, and liberals who cant stand Hillary.”

Senator Clinton has been classed as a “centrist” also. Plus, her base will support her. Mayor Guiliani will lose, at a minimum 1/5 of the base Republican vote. There are already more Democrats than Republicans, and independent voters could go either way. Besides, Senator Clinton’s “negatives” are starting to go down, while Mayor Guiliani’s are going up.

Mrs. Clinton will easily beat Mr. Guiliani. Of the top tier Republicans, although I’m not that keen on him, only Fred Thompson might be able to beat Mrs. Clinton.

I am one Republican that cannot vote for Mayor Guiliani because of three biggies that mater to me:

(1) Abortion (ending it)
(2) Homosexuality (suppressing it)
(3) Gun Rights (protecting the 2nd ammendment - including the “assault weapons” he formerly comdemned.

On those three issues he is no better than Mrs. Clinton, so I cannot support him in a general election. Of course I won’t vote for Mrs. Clinton either.

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